MFC statement re First Nations Voice to Parliament Referendum

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MFC statement re First Nations Voice to Parliament Referendum

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[KLV 1,373]

Well done MFC. Proud to be a supporter.

[rpfc 24,320]

With indigenous people at the club both on and off the field - we simply had to take a positive stand on this. 

And while I was at first skeptical of this mechanism enshrined in the constitution - the response from the No side since that I have been bombarded with on FB and Twitter has made me realise that any movement against that tide is a good thing - however imperfect. 

I honestly don’t know how long before this thread disappears and that is an indictment on us as guests on this forum to have a civil conversation. 

But whatevs 

[Neil Crompton 3,657]

Happy now Hawk?

[Jibroni 2,840]

Im sorry but Sport and Politics should never mix.

 

[beelzebub 20,376]

Would someone actually describe...what this Voice is..   not generalities.. not the vibe..  but what IT IS?

Thankyou 

[McQueen 16,432]

5 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Im sorry but Sport and Politics should never mix.

 

Reasons?

[Brownie 3,920]

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Would someone actually describe...what this Voice is..   not generalities.. not the vibe..  but what IT IS?

Thankyou 

I really recommend this explainer. It's worth the 13 mins to watch in my opinion.

https://youtu.be/RCnv3G0rDLo

[Cranky Franky 1,105]

24 minutes ago, rpfc said:

With indigenous people at the club both on and off the field - we simply had to take a positive stand on this. 

And while I was at first skeptical of this mechanism enshrined in the constitution - the response from the No side since that I have been bombarded with on FB and Twitter has made me realise that any movement against that tide is a good thing - however imperfect. 

I honestly don’t know how long before this thread disappears and that is an indictment on us as guests on this forum to have a civil conversation. 

But whatevs 

One can still be fully supportive of efforts to improve all areas of Indigenous disadvantage and disagree with the referendum about the Voice.

[Jibroni 2,840]

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

Reasons?

I don't see why an organisation/sporting club should express its view on a national issue which has nothing to do with administering its own business/sport and expect its employees/members to hold to these. 

Sport is entertainment.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 9,088]

"We recognise there are a diverse range of views within the community regarding the Voice to Parliament, and everyone reserves the right to make an informed and independent decision on this matter. This is an important decision for our country and to ensure the conversation remains respectful, we have chosen to disable comments on this post."

It's a disgrace that the club should have to do this.

[rpfc 24,320]

12 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

One can still be fully supportive of efforts to improve all areas of Indigenous disadvantage and disagree with the referendum about the Voice.

Sure can. And I was in the fence. But my exposure to the No campaign hasn’t been pleasant. That has driven my position; to bend the arc of the moral universe just a little bit, perhaps waywardly, further toward justice.

[rpfc 24,320]

16 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

 

I don't see why an organisation/sporting club should express its view on a national issue which has nothing to do with administering its own business/sport and expect its employees/members to hold to these. 

Sport is entertainment.

 

 

 

 

It’s more than that. To a club with indigenous employees within a sport with an enormous indigenous representation.

Also organisations these days - to not take a position would have been political. 

May as well go with the view of the majority of the club and further it’s RAP.

[Cheap Seats 2,908]

6 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

It's a disgrace that the club should have to do this.

It's called democracy, everyone has the right to an opinion. People are allowed to disagree etc.

In saying that i don't support the vitriol that gets around on inter webz but it seems we live in a society where everyone needs to be heard. Just go ask the extinction rebellion on the Kings way off ramp this morning.

[The heart beats true 11,519]

24 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Sport is entertainment.

Tell that to Eagles fans.

[Jaded No More 42,497]

I’m not sure I want the club to get involved in political issues simply because they are divisive and we don’t want to divide our supporter base. We want our supporter base to be united. 
Having said that, I understand why they chose to make this statement and I have no issue with it. 
 

Whatever you choose to do on the day, just make sure you truly understand what you are voting on. Voting is a privilege and this process is an important one. 
 

[McQueen 16,432]

25 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

 

I don't see why an organisation/sporting club should express its view on a national issue which has nothing to do with administering its own business/sport and expect its employees/members to hold to these. 

Sport is entertainment.

 

 

 

 

Sir Doug Nicholas round

Anzac day

Gay pride 

etc..

If sport was purely about entertainment then these acknowledgments should also be ignored. 

[chookrat 3,313]

6 minutes ago, rpfc said:

It’s more than that. To a club with indigenous employees within a sport with an enormous indigenous representation.

Also organisations these days - to not take a position would have been political. 

May as well go with the view of the majority of the club and further it’s RAP.

Fully agree rpfc. Our club is very proactive in recognising First Nations people through our work in the NT and also the reasons we are called Naarm over these two rounds in the season. I'd expect any organisation to promote recognition of any culture its employees are a part of.

[Abyssal 127]

16 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

 

I don't see why an organisation/sporting club should express its view on a national issue which has nothing to do with administering its own business/sport and expect its employees/members to hold to these. 

Sport is entertainment.

 

 

 

 

1.  Just curious, does the MELBOURNE Football Club have a right to vote in the upcoming Referendum ?

2.  Is the MELBOURNE Football Club in a position to fully articulate all the potential ramifications should the Referendum succeed ?

3. In its statement the MELBOURNE Football Club state “We do not wish to instruct or tell you how to vote” however in issuing the statement surely they are attempting to influence readers to vote Yes.

If not , why issue the statement at all ?

[BDA 15,131]

Australia needs to deal with its past so I totally understand the sentiment behind the voice and desire to reconcile 

All Australians should have equal rights under the constitution. No group should be preferences over another

I’m torn on this one

[Jaded No More 42,497]

Just now, BDA said:

Australia needs to deal with its past so I totally understand the sentiment behind the voice and desire to reconcile 

All Australians should have equal rights under the constitution. No group should be preferences over another

I’m torn on this one

It’s a very complex issue and some indigenous people will argue that this is nothing more than symbolism and it won’t give them anymore power then they already possess (which is very little if any). 

I think this is a matter of voting with your conscious because big picture, it’s not going to make any difference to you or I as white Australians and no white Australian will be worse off as a result of this (I assume you are not indigenous but if you are, I apologize!). 

[Dr. Gonzo 20,539]

1 hour ago, Jibroni said:

Im sorry but Sport and Politics should never mix.

 

Sport and Politics has always and will always mix.

Edited May 23 by Dr. Gonzo

[Dr. Gonzo 20,539]

20 minutes ago, Cheap Seats said:

It's called democracy, everyone has the right to an opinion. People are allowed to disagree etc.

In saying that i don't support the vitriol that gets around on inter webz but it seems we live in a society where everyone needs to be heard. Just go ask the extinction rebellion on the Kings way off ramp this morning.

Democracy only works when opinions are informed. Otherwise it is just people pushing their own prejudices.

[Jibroni 2,840]

13 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Sir Doug Nicholas round

Anzac day

Gay pride 

etc..

If sport was purely about entertainment then these acknowledgments should also be ignored. 

One is celebrating/respecting a National Holiday and the other supporting sexual orientation.

Sadly I forsee the proposed legislation creating more division to an ongoing/complex issue. 

[Axis of Bob 8,798]

I feel that we wouldn't be supporting our indigenous players and employees if we didn't take a positive stance.

Being protectively supportive of first nations issues had been very on brand for Melbourne for many years. The idea of the club supporting the Voice is obviously consistent of that brand.