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23 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

We lost one mid and brought in two CHF, what makes you think we will be a bit light on for midfield rotations? 

Sparrow and Harmes are CHF’s?

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1 minute ago, Doug Reemer said:

Ok. Blokes easily good enough to be best 22. Can’t get a game. Contract talks on hold. Gone. 

If they thought he was best 22 he would get a game every week, as it is he is in their thoughts best 25 or 26 at the moment. The coaches obviously have a different view than you and some others and thank god for that.

Last year on the game day and post game threads many many posters were bagging him contiuously, I hope you weren't one of them.

He may well leave at the end of season but it really won't make our team worse off.

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6 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

Sparrow and Harmes are CHF’s?

You have to be kidding me right Doug? The poster i quoted is named CHF, I was addressing the poster by their name. 

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8 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

Sparrow and Harmes are CHF’s?

 

1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said:

You have to be kidding me right Doug? The poster i quoted is named CHF, I was addressing the poster by their name. 

I was just about to let him know that.

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14 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

How does he get a free pass ?  He's THE Coach...

Ultimately yes, he's responsible but he’s a premiership coach. If things are stale, or need freshening up then change the team around him. It worked for us when Pert brough in Chocco and Yze a few years ago and it worked for Richmond with Hardwick.

And anyways, this could be a very premature conversation because we're early in the season. We're well in the hunt and could well be premiers yet.

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2 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

 

I was just about to let him know that.

My bad!

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1 hour ago, Doug Reemer said:

True. But if you recall in our 21 year. Gawn was ticking off teams he wanted to get back, which is an aspect I love of his leadership. He values the history and his own recent experience.

Expect a big game from him and a few others, I reckon we’ll be out for blood and No oliver may give a few hungry kids a chance to have a crack at the top job.

They did scalp us (I forgot Petracca was crook and langdon didn’t play).

 

Gawny, no doubt, has a longer-term memory of which Freo player's fist always hit the back of his head, punched his kidneys (both sides) and 'knee-fell' with full body weight onto his legs whilst big Maxi was on the turf from blatant trips and pushes and short-arm jabs to the ribs. We'll find out who it was - one of the joys of watching the MFC Captain (and rightly, the whole group of muscle that we have in the team for Saturday).  Yep, he will have a big game, alright.  :-)

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2 minutes ago, BDA said:

Ultimately yes, he's responsible but he’s a premiership coach. If things are stale, or need freshening up then change the team around him. It worked for us when Pert brough in Chocco and Yze a few years ago and it worked for Richmond with Hardwick.

And anyways, this could be a very premature conversation because we're early in the season. We're well in the hunt and could well be premiers yet.

Buck stops with the coach.  Its HIS game after all. 

Our game is stale..   getting mouldy in the rain.

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I want to see Kozzie play 70% midfield in the second half when our mids are tiring,we need his fresh legs running through the guts,especially without Clarry.

 

At one point Port were winning the clearances 10-0,Butters and Rozee were smashing Petracca and Oliver and no plan B Goodwin does nothing as usual and Kozzie has 6 disposals for the game!!!

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1 hour ago, Billy said:

You obviously don’t rate him, would you like to give an explanation?

He's a fringe 22 player. And would be at almost every other top 8 team's midfield. 

It's not that I don't rate him, I just don't think it matters whether or not he plays. He is fringe, which is why he's always in and out. 

He is serviceable, doesn't have any outstanding attributes and certainly no point of difference as a player. 

And in a midfield full of contested players who display the same weaknesses, I think he is surplus to needs, (as I do with Sparrow).

Some may say he's unlucky and maybe he is. But who is he playing ahead of in our side? And why? 

Sparrow is more powerful, explosive quicker and can take a contested grab. Hunter is a specialist wingman we deliberately brought in because Jordan was playing wing and doesn't have the attributes. 

And he's obviously not playing ahead of Trac, Clarry or Viney who are all contested ball winners. 

It's a recruiting prob also. I think we need to start bringing in some other types of midfielders. And it's clear the FD are finally realising we need this with the addition of Rivers and Pickett more through that part of the ground. 

I hope for Jordan's sake he goes, but if he goes to a top 8 side, I'd be surprised if he was a consistent starting mid season upon season. 

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1 hour ago, binman said:

That's a plus for the dees given our struggle against quality mid sized forwards and winning ground ball inside D50.

Sargeant Schulz is the one to watch down there.

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30 minutes ago, Jack7 said:

I want to see Kozzie play 70% midfield in the second half when our mids are tiring,we need his fresh legs running through the guts,especially without Clarry.

 

At one point Port were winning the clearances 10-0,Butters and Rozee were smashing Petracca and Oliver and no plan B Goodwin does nothing as usual and Kozzie has 6 disposals for the game!!!

Agree regarding Kozzie. I can't understand it. 

The other bug bear of mine is our lack of cohesion and role through the midfield at the moment. 

To me, we look like we're reverting back to the same old 'see ball get ball' style of play within our midfield group which means our midfield shape just falls to pieces and if we're not clean with that first possession in tight, we're cooked on the outside and the oppo gain a clearance and not only a clearance, but clean clearance without much pressure. 

Big worry. 

I don't know what our mids are told atm but to me it just doesn't look like there's a whole lot of cohesion. 

I'd love to see plan put in place on the weekend so that one of Serong and Brayshaw are marked. We have a defensive marking mid who holds space if their opponent is out of the action, a head to head play ball player and an offensive mid in the Petracca mould. Gawn and Grundy need to get more physical and bring a serious presence. 

I'd give Sparrow a defensive role on Serong and tell him to get physical. I'd have Viney go head to head with Brayshaw and tell him to play ball and hard and I'd give Petracca a licence to get on the move at a stoppage. 

Pickett can play Tracs role when he comes in, Brayshaw to play Sparrow's role and Riv can go head to head with Andy Brayshaw. 

Challenge them to beat their opponents. 

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2 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

He wasnt our worst. Problem is the ball hardly made it back there and it was wet. 

Our problem is the small / pressure forwards. They need to plant themselves around the feet of our talls, but with the current game style, they are pressing up deep into Defence and perhaps not fit enough to get back to support. 

This ^ 

Chandler & Kozzy need to do what they do best, mostly inside 50.

In particular, significant Kozzy minutes in the middle has had very little impact the last two weeks.

Eg;  He had 7 CB attendances for one tap 'receive and and give' for one clearance against the Hawks.  That was it!  Zero impact at 6 other artendances.  No tackles, virtually no pressure on opponents.  Nada!

If i see him there beyond a couple this week i'll spew up!

Get to dangerous places, crumb or find targets.  Pressure the hec outta Freo's defenders and none of this loose fold back zone nonsense that we've been seeing the last few weeks.

Makes it far too easy for the oppo to transition deep into our 50 when these two go missing here and play to the flimsy loose FB zone.  The Pies will murder us if we bring this method on KB.

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How the Robot outa Lost in Space still gets a game is puzzling! ALSO.JVR better bet than BBB? Give me a break!

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Why hasn’t Kozzie played in the midfield like he did in Rd1 and in the preseason? He excelled and it was touted as our X factor, yet he has barely been cited there again. Occasional spells. He looks like a player who doesn’t know what his role in the team is. He also needs to work harder to apply defensive pressure 

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A great game for the likes of Viney, ANB, Sparrow, Kozzie, Chandler and I think more importantly, Langers to step up big time and assist Trac in the middle with Clarry out. Defining game for quite a few players and our club. Win it which I think we will without Clarry will install heaps of confidence in the fringe players.

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With Oliver out - this now becomes a ‘system’ driven team as everyone has said we are at our best. 

I think we rely on our stars far too much and our system ramps up intermittently when we feel like engaging in some run and dare and forward half intensity when we don’t have the ball. 

Well no easy outs for the next month - you have to commit to playing connected footy for 100 mins or we will just make up the numbers.

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2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Our game is stale..   getting mouldy in the rain.

Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no

 

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3 hours ago, 12345_54321 said:

Tmac hasn’t looked very good since about halfway through 2021. Can’t believe Brown has been frozen out since his first couple of games this year. Very weird. He’ll never play that well at Casey. Needs that silver service, and not often Div 2 footy will provide that. 

and that's why BBB isn't getting a game, because he only gets the ball with silver service - which doesn't always happen with our game plan anyway. He's useless at ground level, gets out-marked, no good at chasing his defender running off him. I totally get there's pros/cons with each of TMac and BBB - I suspect the match committee have come to the conclusion that TMac has fewer deficiencies than BBB even though he's very very limited.

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