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Trade Rumours 2023


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59 minutes ago, Floody100 said:

I mean props to Adelaide for trying but they’re wasting their time if they thought they were getting Petty or Sparrow for McAdam.

I much prefer the way Josh Mahoney (and now Tim Lamb) go about things. We pick our targets and always trade fair currency, if not a little overs sometimes, to secure a deal quickly. 

Some list managers (like Adelaide's here) are no better than the teenagers on BigFooty. 

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Not exactly a rumour but whenever experts talk about Gold Coast pick I hear other teams ahead of us. I hope we still remain in the picture for whatever first rounder Gold Coast trade in. Upgrading our first rounder (15 or whatever) to 10 for a second rounder makes a lot of sense to me and should help them for points given they have three prospects to bring in 

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3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Maybe they are looking to split their 2nd pick? NM Pick 3 (McKay comp) for 5 and 15. They can then use their first rounders and chase GCS and end up with 2, 4 and 5. 

That's actually a decent shout if we can't get our hands on that Gold Coast pick, which is looking increasingly unlikely.

We get pick 3 and can choose from McKercher/Duursma and North end up with 3 picks in the top 7 (post FA and Academy picks).

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There's a lot of energy on this thread.

As someone posted however total trades are around 30 and most are at the Harmes level. Points trading is interesting but with North this year and Tasmania to come the pool is hopelessly compromised.

I enjoy the speculation but it would be interesting to hear from managers why players tend to re-sign rather than switch. Especially players at less successful clubs. Post 2021 I thought we might have picked up a player or two as a destination club from GCS or the likes but it doesn't happen.

Why is it so, Professor

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7 minutes ago, binman said:

Apart from the fact that he is woeful kick for goal. 

In all seriousness we should not be drafting or trading in any player who is not an elite kick. Not one. 

Agreed no Naughton. And also steer clear of Harry McKay. Both would only add heartache to our accuracy woes. 

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49 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

There's a lot of energy on this thread.

As someone posted however total trades are around 30 and most are at the Harmes level. Points trading is interesting but with North this year and Tasmania to come the pool is hopelessly compromised.

I enjoy the speculation but it would be interesting to hear from managers why players tend to re-sign rather than switch. Especially players at less successful clubs. Post 2021 I thought we might have picked up a player or two as a destination club from GCS or the likes but it doesn't happen.

Why is it so, Professor

Paul Connors was on Getable podcast a couple of weeks back talking about this. Worth a listen. From memory, the clubs don’t want to make massive changes, security in contracts, and the bargaining agreement that’s just been finalised. Mid season trading might change that, but he is saying it’s going to be the most boring trade period he’s seen. 

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14 hours ago, Stina said:

No SA homecoming for Dees

Melbourne will rebuff Adelaide’s attempts to secure star duo Harry Petty or Tom Sparrow in the Shane McAdam deal.

The Crows are keen on a ready-made quality player in return for McAdam, who turned his back on a fresh deal at Adelaide to join Melbourne in the exchange period.

But the Demons will likely offer the Crows a third-round pick or low-round pick swap in the McAdam deal.

Melbourne’s top priority is to secure adequate compensation in the trade for Brodie Grundy to Sydney, such as a second-round pick.

What drugs are they smoking if they think we'd consider trading Petty or Sparrow for an average mature age player that doesn't even want to be on their list?

Unless they are trowing in a first round draft pick, but I honestly don't even think that goes close in the case of Petty.

Surely this is a joke and the jurno that wrote it is desperate for something to print.

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15 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

Paul Connors was on Getable podcast a couple of weeks back talking about this. Worth a listen. From memory, the clubs don’t want to make massive changes, security in contracts, and the bargaining agreement that’s just been finalised. Mid season trading might change that, but he is saying it’s going to be the most boring trade period he’s seen. 

Interesting... My present thoughts on TMac and BBB staying for another year are that I'm ambivalent simply because we have so many others leaving thus freeing up spots. Are we better off with them leaving allowing us to plunder the lower levels of the draft and trying to find a diamond. (In saying this I'm assuming injuries and form will preclude both from senior selection in 2024)

Pity you have to give all draftees 2 years as a one year option for lower level choices might actually encourage clubs to give the outliers a chance. Sure we have the mid year rookie draft but not sure that it's the answer as increasingly those players within the elite full time training universe offered by AFL improve at a different rate.

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53 minutes ago, binman said:

Apart from the fact that he is woeful kick for goal. 

In all seriousness we should not be drafting or trading in any player who is not an elite kick. Not one. 

Yes we need to guide the ship... to more 'accurate' waters

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2 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

What drugs are they smoking if they think we'd consider trading Petty or Sparrow for an average mature age player that doesn't even want to be on their list?

Unless they are trowing in a first round draft pick, but I honestly don't even think that goes close in the case of Petty.

Exactly!

Adelaide are delusional!  🤣

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The real gold is the trades where you pick up an Acres or similar for not much. I don't follow other teams that closely so not sure who would fit that bill but knowing JT they often target guys a few years out like Langdon or Lever and invest a lot of time in getting them to the Dees.

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16 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

We’d take Naughton in a heartbeat 

Isn't he a WA boy, could see him teaming up with Oscar Allen in the future.  Free agent next year I think, bulldogs might let him go this year as part of a package to WCE to get pick 1.

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1 hour ago, Axis of Bob said:

Who do you have in mind to bring in as our back up ruckman? Dean Cox?

Who was Dean Cox before Gardiner did his PCL.

Cameron back up at Sydney couldn’t get a game

Mumford back up at Cats behind King and Blake

Jolly behind White

Biggs was a nobody 6 months ago and Hickey got Sydney to the GF last year at his 4th club.

You just need to pick up a back up journeyman to give Max a chop out

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5 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Who was Dean Cox before Gardiner did his PCL.

Cameron back up at Sydney couldn’t get a game

Mumford back up at Cats behind King and Blake

Jolly behind White

Biggs was a nobody 6 months ago and Hickey got Sydney to the GF last year at his 4th club.

You just need to pick up a back up journeyman to give Max a chop out

Tough sell to a promising young guy in a back up role - come and be in another back up role, except with this one the main guy is zero chance of getting dropped for form and probably has a few years left in him.

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1 minute ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Tough sell to a promising young guy in a back up role - come and be in another back up role, except with this one the main guy is zero chance of getting dropped for form and probably has a few years left in him.

Can be a journeyman like Phillips, Hickey, Jono Griffin . Not those in particular but that sort

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1 hour ago, binman said:

Apart from the fact that he is woeful kick for goal. 

In all seriousness we should not be drafting or trading in any player who is not an elite kick. Not one. 

I get the sentiment but as @Axis of Bob says, some of the needs on our list are very unlikely going to be filled by elite kicks. That's largely because, as much as we need better kicking, the competition isn't flush with elite kicks and certainly not in the ruck or key forward positions.

If Naughton were available he'd make us significantly better instantly, and that's assuming his kicking for goal remains as it is now.

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Stupid hypothetical because I'm bored.

With the talk of essendon and saints manipulating free agency compo, perhaps we can do the same with the swans.

Grundy and Jordon are strongly linked there with the media consensus being a 2nd round pick will get it done with Swans taking on the remainder of his wage. 

Jordon will likely net us a 3rd round pick (in the 50s).

Here's my dumb proposal.

1. Trade Grundy to Swans for pick 31.

2. Offer to pay 500k per year for the remainder of his contract. Swans therefore only paying 150k for him.

3. Get Swans to pay over the top for Jordon, 800k over 3years, triggering band 1 compensation (pick 14 to dees).

Grundy and Jordon to Sydney with the swans paying 950k for two players (close to average AFL wage).

Melbourne lose Grundy and Jordon but gain pick 14 and 31. 500k for 5 years the downside however we will be freeing up approx;

- 500k with a potential harmes move.

- 150k for Jordon

- 400k for Hibberd and Melksham

Tomlinson, Brown and T-Mac off this list next year will save close to a million, we shouldn't be tight for cap space.

Melbourne then has 13 and 14 which is superior to the Bulldogs offer for Pick 4.

Out: Grundy, Jordon, 500k x 5yrs

In: Pick 4 and 31

Dumb, I know.

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