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9 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

I don't want to lose Spargo for a late 2nd or 3rd, his semi final showed what we'd been missing - but if this is in someway connected with trading Our Firsts and Spargo for that pick #2 and then coming at WCE with an ultimatum on Reid/Curtin, then its a smart move - If North were willing. :laugh:

Agreed,

 

We will wait and see what happens.

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Spargo leaving would not surprise me. Clearly been unhappy for most of the year and it's a position we have multiple options in including AMW (who needs to be in the team soon), and McAdam, who is taller but still not a big forward. 

We really are following the Richmond model of losing all our premiership small forwards. If only we'd followed with the key forward acquisition ...they wouldn't have won #2 or 3 without Lynch imo. Using Jackson's dollars on Grundy was a massive mistake. 

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19 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Spargo leaving would not surprise me. Clearly been unhappy for most of the year and it's a position we have multiple options in including AMW (who needs to be in the team soon), and McAdam, who is taller but still not a big forward. 

We really are following the Richmond model of losing all our premiership small forwards. If only we'd followed with the key forward acquisition ...they wouldn't have won #2 or 3 without Lynch imo. Using Jackson's dollars on Grundy was a massive mistake. 

Which key forward were you thinking of?

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20 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Spargo leaving would not surprise me. Clearly been unhappy for most of the year and it's a position we have multiple options in including AMW (who needs to be in the team soon), and McAdam, who is taller but still not a big forward. 

We really are following the Richmond model of losing all our premiership small forwards. If only we'd followed with the key forward acquisition ...they wouldn't have won #2 or 3 without Lynch imo. Using Jackson's dollars on Grundy was a massive mistake. 


Grundy was a mistake but only for one year. Sydney will now take that contract over. We gambled on Gawndy, it didn’t work, okay we move on. Not the end of the world. 
 

Spargo wouldn’t be either if he left. He’s not Tom Papley. Uses the ball well but doesn’t get enough of it and doesn’t kick enough goals for a small forward. 
 

Not sure why you’re potting the Richmond model. It won three flags.

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Just now, Billy said:

Charlie Spargo the only forward that lowers his eyes and usually finds a target as he showed against Carlton 

That Charlie Spargo????

If Charlie was a couple inches taller he'd be an absolute weapon of a midfielder

Then again, something about my grandma having wheels.....

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1 hour ago, BaliDemon said:


Grundy was a mistake but only for one year. Sydney will now take that contract over. We gambled on Gawndy, it didn’t work, okay we move on. Not the end of the world. 
 

Spargo wouldn’t be either if he left. He’s not Tom Papley. Uses the ball well but doesn’t get enough of it and doesn’t kick enough goals for a small forward. 
 

Not sure why you’re potting the Richmond model. It won three flags.

Grundy wasn't si much a mistake...though i can only agree an argument can be made ( a la rpfc ) that we never should have entertained it...better other options/deals.

But , imo, where we truly [censored] up was not reappraising where we were and the talent on offer and rethinking how to use.

Exhibit A .. the last game ..

We needto be far more astute and inventive.

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5 minutes ago, Billy said:

Charlie Spargo the only forward that lowers his eyes and usually finds a target as he showed against Carlton 

That Charlie Spargo????

Yeah the one who gets his hands on the footy about 9 times a game and doesn’t kick goals. That ‘forward’.

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On 9/15/2023 at 6:45 AM, Kent said:

McAdam isn't as good and is already 29 Dont really know why we are interested

A good 3 to 4 years probably. 

Ideal.

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On 9/13/2023 at 6:07 PM, John Demonic said:

The great thing about Grundy to Sydney, is that I noticed some of their fans last week saying they are happy (or OK) to do it for pick 11. They think he's the missing piece that they've not been able to get right for the last 5-10 years, which would've taken them all the way. And after academy it will be 15 or so and somewhere approaching his value. Paraphrasing: "Its overs but [censored] it just get it done, we can't go into next year with Ladhams" etc

Couldn't agree more @John Demonic. It's a seller's market I recon.

(If the Filth are rolled in the next few weeks, they might want Grundy back.)

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5 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Saw this rumour on Reddit about Spargo. Not sure if it's just drawing conclusions based on family links or they're actual "small rumblings"

"Ins are likely to be Stephens and Fisher though there seems to be some small rumblings about Charlie Spargo which is a watch this space as he has family links with North and Clarko. A mature defender or two as well but maybe the state leagues for these."

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/16lfg3s/comment/k12d7nm/

 

Spargo might himself request a fresh start 

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7 minutes ago, Billy said:

9 effective possessions normally 

Averages 10 touches and 0.6 goals a game across his seven year career to date. Hasn’t measurably improved over the past 24 months. 
 

Do you honestly think that’s good enough from a small forward? That’s the bar you’re going to set? 

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3 minutes ago, BaliDemon said:

Averages 10 touches and 0.6 goals a game across his seven year career to date. Hasn’t measurably improved over the past 24 months. 
 

Do you honestly think that’s good enough from a small forward? That’s the bar you’re going to set? 

No doubt he's struggled over the past 24 months, but his performance against Carlton is where it needs to be. Still only 23.

Charlie would be in my side.

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