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12 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Any Docker loss is something to celebrate 

Thought the doggies were good tonight starting to build some momentum 

 

5 minutes ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Dogs could win 3 out of their next 5 too

They are overly dependent on Bont...the win or lose on his back & it's not a great way to structure up in a team sport.

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15 minutes ago, rjay said:

Surely that's their fault...he just took the cash.

He didn't have to chase it.

He was not the one offering it.

They presented him with a golden opportunity.

Sometimes that gold is fools gold...

Sometimes all that glitters is not gold

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They're a feral bunch. The irony of relentlessly ferally booing a 30 yr old almost finished mediocre player who left, while cheering his replacement a 21 yr old, once in a generation player, who walked out on his club to go to them. 

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1 hour ago, adonski said:

Jacko was poorly advised to move back, I feel a bit for him to be honest

I feel for Longmuir. He had a decent young list, 2 guaranteed wins against the mortal enemy and depth. Now he has weak contests forward of the ball, a bottom 6 finish and no draft picks.  To rub salt in the wound, can we make a play for Jye Amiss in coming years.  Kid can take a grab. 

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Mr Squiggle Ladder Predictor with the autotip sim spat out pick 6 everytime. Just for good measure I manually tipped and they're good for 2W v Hawthorn and 1x West Coast and a few here or there. Will be above GCS, GWS and slightly ahead of North. In that cluster of Richmond, Port, middling teams with 8 wins. Even 10 wins would be a big turn around at this point. We're guaranteed 6-9 I think. And pick 3-5 if Freo can't win what they should AND GWS, GCS or North can somehow turn things around and win 5-7 games 

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I think it is realistic to be looking at a top 10 pick and a low 20's pick for Freo's 1st and 2nd round picks. Packaging that up with our 1st round (hopefully 18th) I think Tim and Jason could do something pretty special. We don't need quantity given where our list is at right now. We would certainly preference a single high quality player over taking all of those picks to the draft. 

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5 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

They're a feral bunch. The irony of relentlessly ferally booing a 30 yr old almost finished mediocre player who left, while cheering his replacement a 21 yr old, once in a generation player, who walked out on his club to go to them. 

That’s why I hope we don’t boo Jacko.  
 

We booed Tom Scully when we were awful and Freo supporters reminded me of us back then - an unsuccessful side who has to boo a player to feel better.  Let’s not go back there, Premiership-winning supporters are better than that.

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3 hours ago, FlashInThePan said:

I think it is realistic to be looking at a top 10 pick and a low 20's pick for Freo's 1st and 2nd round picks. Packaging that up with our 1st round (hopefully 18th) I think Tim and Jason could do something pretty special. We don't need quantity given where our list is at right now. We would certainly preference a single high quality player over taking all of those picks to the draft. 

It’s almost a “can’t lose” situation if Freo continue to be as poor as they have been to date.

I agree Melbourne need quality over quantity at this stage, and they should have the assets to package up and get that very high draft pick. Throw into the mix Melbourne’s 2024 first rounder as another asset to trade.

Gold Coast is the obvious trading partner if they finish bottom three. How many elite 18 year olds do they really need? They have plenty who were that on their list and it hasn’t worked for them yet so maybe they need to try something different.

Hawthorn may also be tempted to accept quantity over quality.

But if there is nobody willing to trade their top three pick, then Melbourne can get some quantity as a fall back. Like the Jefferson pick, they can also afford to take players who can be given 2-3 years’ development time instead of having the pressure of going for someone who needs to contribute from round 1 2024.

Heaven forbid it happens, but if Pickett does leave then that would strengthen Melbourne’s trade and draft hand again. The money Melbourne wouldn’t pay Pickett could also be used to pay the salary of a more established player using some of those attractive draft picks in trade.

Whatever happens, based on their past deeds I’m at least confident Lamb and Taylor will be able to make something advantageous to Melbourne of the situation. I’m sure they’re already working through all the likely scenarios and putting in the ground work with potential trading partners now.

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3 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

That’s why I hope we don’t boo Jacko.  
 

We booed Tom Scully when we were awful and Freo supporters reminded me of us back then - an unsuccessful side who has to boo a player to feel better.  Let’s not go back there, Premiership-winning supporters are better than that.

Melbourne supporters boo'd Oskar Baker even after we delisted him without playing an AFL game for 2 years.

Compared to Jackson circumstances and how he left, the boo's will be well and truly coming his way from Melbourne supporters.

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The only question now is... who do we take with Freo’s first pick?

Watson? Duursma? Caddy?

Didn’t expect to be in this position, but I think we could actually trade back in the draft slightly, take advantage of other clubs eagerness to get up the order & bank more for the future.

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6 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

That’s why I hope we don’t boo Jacko.  
 

We booed Tom Scully when we were awful and Freo supporters reminded me of us back then - an unsuccessful side who has to boo a player to feel better.  Let’s not go back there, Premiership-winning supporters are better than that.

There is nothing surer than Jackson getting booed by Melbourne supporters in his first Melbourne home game. Unless he literally doesn’t touch the ball…

Hell, even poor old Oskar Baker copped a brief undeserved booing in round 1. I think it was a retaliatory boo for the Hunter booing, but if someone who Melbourne sacked was booed then someone who chose to walk out will absolutely be booed and booed hard.

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18 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

The only question now is... who do we take with Freo’s first pick?

Watson? Duursma? Caddy?

Didn’t expect to be in this position, but I think we could actually trade back in the draft slightly, take advantage of other clubs eagerness to get up the order & bank more for the future.

Duursma would be nice. Caddy reminds me a bit of Charlie Curnow.

Do honestly think an elite midfielder has to be high on our priority list.

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33 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Melbourne supporters boo'd Oskar Baker even after we delisted him without playing an AFL game for 2 years.

Compared to Jackson circumstances and how he left, the boo's will be well and truly coming his way from Melbourne supporters.

Ironic boos for sauce - coming after hunter got booed and only tge one time.

I won't be booing Jackson. I don't boo players. And I don't feel any angst towards him anyway.

But in the theatre of booing Jackson is fair game.

Unlike sauce, fits the bill - high draft pick, big investment by the club, leaves after the club has helped him develop for big coin.

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9 minutes ago, binman said:

Ironic boos for sauce - coming after hunter got booed and only tge one time.

I won't be booing Jackson. I don't boo players. And I don't feel any angst towards him anyway.

But in the theatre of booing Jackson is fair game.

Unlike sauce, fits the bill - high draft pick, big investment by the club, leaves after the club has helped him develop for big coin.

Yeah I'm not a fan of booing either, but can understand the theatre of it all.

Only ex player I can think or that got a good reception was James McDonald when he was at the Giants.

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20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah I'm not a fan of booing either, but can understand the theatre of it all.

Only ex player I can think or that got a good reception was James McDonald when he was at the Giants.

Still makes me angry how we treated junior.

(Good lord, if I heard anyone booing him I wouldn't have been able to help saying something.)

Feels like a different club now.

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7 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

They're a feral bunch. The irony of relentlessly ferally booing a 30 yr old almost finished mediocre player who left, while cheering his replacement a 21 yr old, once in a generation player, who walked out on his club to go to them. 

Very Collingwood. They boo anyone who leaves and adore those that join them.

 

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The train is coming into the station!

The only team below Freo that is likely to rise above them is Richmond.  The only team above them that is likely to fall below them is GWS.

Result:  pick 5, 6 or 7 for the Dees:cool:

We need an elite midfielder which we have tried to get in the last two seasons.  Plenty of currency to work with to climb further up the draft if need be. 

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5 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Mr Squiggle Ladder Predictor with the autotip sim spat out pick 6 everytime. Just for good measure I manually tipped and they're good for 2W v Hawthorn and 1x West Coast and a few here or there. Will be above GCS, GWS and slightly ahead of North. In that cluster of Richmond, Port, middling teams with 8 wins. Even 10 wins would be a big turn around at this point. We're guaranteed 6-9 I think. And pick 3-5 if Freo can't win what they should AND GWS, GCS or North can somehow turn things around and win 5-7 games 

Once the Dockers reach the out of finals contention position, they might actually get even worse, with the players not caring at all.

We can hope for that.

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