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I'm loving the aggressive trading strategy. Knock the Dons and Dodoro off kilter. Personally, I'd rather hold our picks, particularly Freo's pick (they'll go backwards this year) but JT is a genius and has my total faith. 

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7 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Can’t understand why we are persisting to talk about Jimmy Toumpas in this thread. How is he relevant to this?

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It is like picking the scab off an old sore. 

But 10 years later!...Weird.

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27 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Can’t understand why we are persisting to talk about Jimmy Toumpas in this thread. How is he relevant to this?

Agree, but someone started it so it just went from there!

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I still think that this is poor planning get rid of 3 first round picks for 4 and 22 since every body said next years crop is better than this year.

In 12 months players like Melksham and Hibberd will be past their use by date so we will have to fill 2 holes, Chandler will have to step up and Bailey Laurie will have to show signs that he is a good first round pick to retain their place in the squad.

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Just goes to show that Pick 13 and F1 for LJ was unders because we cant even get into the top 5 with two first rounders. I would hate to give up 3 first rounders for pick 4 and 22 unless Pick 4 snared us a KPP. 

Instead i would take what ever is available this year and in 2023, id package up our 2xF1 and our 2024 F1 to trade into top 2 of the super draft.

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17 minutes ago, durango said:

I still think that this is poor planning get rid of 3 first round picks for 4 and 22 since every body said next years crop is better than this year.

In 12 months players like Melksham and Hibberd will be past their use by date so we will have to fill 2 holes, Chandler will have to step up and Bailey Laurie will have to show signs that he is a good first round pick to retain their place in the squad.

List management is sorted in advance not the year of a players departure. They will be planning for what they do if Kossie commits or not, like they would have for Dogga. Same goes with our entire list and getting 2023 out of both Pig and Melk May be something they didn’t expect 

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Cal mentioned that GWS pick 15 is gettable and that we would be keen if we can’t get a deal done with the bombers. I think I would prefer that. Gives us a staring hand this year and next. 
Wonder how confident the club is on Kossie staying beyond next season. If they think he’s off I wonder will that play a part in who we select. Might make Brayden George more appealing. 

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8 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

List management is sorted in advance not the year of a players departure. They will be planning for what they do if Kossie commits or not, like they would have for Dogga. Same goes with our entire list and getting 2023 out of both Pig and Melk May be something they didn’t expect 

Great minds😂

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3 hours ago, Colm said:

Cal mentioned that GWS pick 15 is gettable and that we would be keen if we can’t get a deal done with the bombers. I think I would prefer that. Gives us a staring hand this year and next. 
Wonder how confident the club is on Kossie staying beyond next season. If they think he’s off I wonder will that play a part in who we select. Might make Brayden George more appealing. 

13 and 15 would be a good outcome if we cant get in the top 6/7.

George is more a Petracca style forward. If we wanted a small forward type we could look at Konstanty or Charlie Clarke in the later stages of the first round with Darcy Jones probably in that range as well. Clarke and Jones have also rolled through the midfield a bit. I would be happy with any of them. Noah Long is someone else that might appeal later in the draft as well.

If Kozzie goes next year then at this stage Nick Watson would be the ideal replacement with Jack Delean also showing talent in his bottom age year. Obviously a lot can change in a year.

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29 minutes ago, Colm said:

Cal mentioned that GWS pick 15 is gettable and that we would be keen if we can’t get a deal done with the bombers. I think I would prefer that. Gives us a staring hand this year and next. 
Wonder how confident the club is on Kossie staying beyond next season. If they think he’s off I wonder will that play a part in who we select. Might make Brayden George more appealing. 

Yes agree. Tough to get the bombers pick 4 which is a premium potential A grader to give up as a selection.  GWS might be good to do a pickup swap for a future 2023 (Freo) 1st rounder.  

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At first reading three first round picks makes one go WOW! 

But 2023 has a few early Academy and potentially F/S players.  So a 2023 F1 in the 14 to 18 range will likely become late teen/early 20 picks.

Not really that exciting.  I doubt Ess will do it.

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8 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

At first reading three first round picks makes one go WOW! 

But 2023 has a few early Academy and potentially F/S players.  So a 2023 F1 in the 14 to 18 range will likely become late teen/early 20 picks.

Not really that exciting.  I doubt Ess will do it.

Some would look and say its 13 this year and two likely later first rounders next year. However with your own future first its a lot of 2023 bargaining power to either use to move up next year, use in trade or just have 3 shots at the top 18 in an alleged super draft, 

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17 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Some would look and say its 13 this year and two likely later first rounders next year. However with your own future first its a lot of 2023 bargaining power to either use to move up next year, use in trade or just have 3 shots at the top 18 in an alleged super draft, 

Maybe. 

If 2023 is such a great draft how many clubs wit a top 5 or top 10 pick will take 3 picks in the teens, which will slide.  Trading up the order into the elite part of the draft is simple in theory but difficult in practice as we are finding out.

Elite players can win flags. 

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1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Just goes to show that Pick 13 and F1 for LJ was unders because we cant even get into the top 5 with two first rounders. I would hate to give up 3 first rounders for pick 4 and 22 unless Pick 4 snared us a KPP. 

Instead i would take what ever is available this year and in 2023, id package up our 2xF1 and our 2024 F1 to trade into top 2 of the super draft.

If we can't jump up into the top 6 with 3 first rounders this year how would we be able to move to the top 2 in a better draft with the same offer of 3 first rounders 

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If I spent some time, which I'm not going to, Im pretty sure I could find an article on next year's 'super draft', every year for the last 10 years. Yes, in hindsight there may have been a couple of drafts that produced more elite players than others but to me the term gets used every year. I say get the best picks we can this year. Next year is just that, a whole year away. Draft Players can develope and fall, lists change. Take the best now and worry about next year next year. We always manage to get back in first round no matter what we trade. 

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2 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

Can’t understand why we are persisting to talk about Jimmy Toumpas in this thread. How is he relevant to this?

What I glean from all the trenners and Toumpas talk and memories is that hope and investment in a high pick can go sour pretty quickly with injury. Both looked excellent propositions and it seemed like their bodies (and subsequent recovery which the club couldn’t help them achieve) that let them down. 
 

On topic, very happy the club is floating prospective offers into the ether to see what’s possible and while the demons have so much in hand right now, why not test all waters available. Can’t wait to see tonight what they’ve managed to orchestrate after creating enough noise to shake out some deals. If after everything’s talked out we take our picks I’ll be content that the recruiting team assessed options and saw this best. 
 

personally I lean towards the hope of parting with no more than one future pick (ours not freos, I want to death ride them just for the fun) for either gws or Sydney’s first and steal a gun. 
George, Barnett, Cowan. A sliding busslinger would be great for the future too, although can’t see teams trading out of that. 

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30 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

What I glean from all the trenners and Toumpas talk and memories is that hope and investment in a high pick can go sour pretty quickly with injury. Both looked excellent propositions and it seemed like their bodies (and subsequent recovery which the club couldn’t help them achieve) that let them down. 
 

On topic, very happy the club is floating prospective offers into the ether to see what’s possible and while the demons have so much in hand right now, why not test all waters available. Can’t wait to see tonight what they’ve managed to orchestrate after creating enough noise to shake out some deals. If after everything’s talked out we take our picks I’ll be content that the recruiting team assessed options and saw this best. 
 

personally I lean towards the hope of parting with no more than one future pick (ours not freos, I want to death ride them just for the fun) for either gws or Sydney’s first and steal a gun. 
George, Barnett, Cowan. A sliding busslinger would be great for the future too, although can’t see teams trading out of that. 
 

You have missed the most likely at 13 (14) in Jefferson if available. 

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1 hour ago, Grouse said:

If I spent some time, which I'm not going to, Im pretty sure I could find an article on next year's 'super draft', every year for the last 10 years. Yes, in hindsight there may have been a couple of drafts that produced more elite players than others but to me the term gets used every year. I say get the best picks we can this year. Next year is just that, a whole year away. Draft Players can develope and fall, lists change. Take the best now and worry about next year next year. We always manage to get back in first round no matter what we trade. 

Interesting that one recruiter on AFL said last year, the consensus was the 2022 draft would be filled with great tall prospects. It hasn't panned out that way at all.

Forecasting how good a draft class will be 12 months out is fraught with danger.

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