Dees considering big trade plays

[layzie 28,696]

Seems like a bridge slightly too far, would need to be at least top 3.

Plenty of twists and turns to go though. 

[buck_nekkid 5,476]

Could we also be trying to move back next year with lots of points to do the f/s dance (mini-Dogga)?  If we go forward this year, and back with points next year, we could ‘win’ in both scenarios?

[Redleg 37,556]

We may have achieved what we intended: utter confusion.

[Bitter but optimistic 21,235]

46 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We may have achieved what we intended: utter confusion.

Well I'm certainly confused.

As I understand it we have pick 13 ( which is really 14 .... or is it 15) ...... but according to another thread pick 19 is better!

However, we are also going for pick 5 ( or 6) both of which seem unattainable ...... is that correct?

Of course we've also got pick 37 but apparently all the decent players will be gone by then.

 

[Redleg 37,556]

40 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well I'm certainly confused.

As I understand it we have pick 13 ( which is really 14 .... or is it 15) ...... but according to another thread pick 19 is better!

However, we are also going for pick 5 ( or 6) both of which seem unattainable ...... is that correct?

Of course we've also got pick 37 but apparently all the decent players will be gone by then.

 

You are confused Uncle, as no one has claimed pick 19 is better than 13, yet.

[Ugottobekidding 915]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

Could we also be trying to move back next year with lots of points to do the f/s dance (mini-Dogga)?  If we go forward this year, and back with points next year, we could ‘win’ in both scenarios?

Going to let someone else worry about it all.

[picket fence 15,101]

12 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Blasphemous. There is no Oliver mk2. 

AFAIC, the universe [censored] up by even allowing Oliver 1.0 to exist.

Even worse HERESY! 

[Redleg 37,556]

2 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Going to let someone else worry about it all.

What kind of Demonlander are you?

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2022-order-date-mattaes-phillipou-essendon-reuben-ginbey-west-coast-ed-allan-geelong-jhye-clark-hawthorn/news-story/845c26c5823a732bafc9d99c22a5be37

Foxfooty.com.au understands Melbourne’s primary motivation behind entering the draft earlier is to give itself a chance of securing Phillipou — the son of Sam Phillipou, who kicked 250 goals from 150 SANFL games for the Eagles and Magpies while also playing three AFL games for Footscray.

[Lord Travis 10,162]

Interesting we're keen on Philipou. We originally may have put a lot of time into him and planned to land him at 13, but now his stocks have risen we want to trade up to get him.

If we do trade up, we're essentially burning all the Jackson compo and opting out of the first round next year (bar losing high end talent in future etc) to land this player, so they better be damn sure he'll be an elite player. Anything less will be considered a list management stuff up of the highest order. He'll need to produce and become more Petracca than Weideman.

Philipou looks a good prospect as that mid/forward impact player, though his field kicking is hit and miss. The Bont comparisons aren't overly accurate IMO. I'm more hoping we trade up to get Sheezel, who looks pure class and has big impact on games up forward. His kicking and footy IQ is elite.

[Redleg 37,556]

8 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Interesting we're keen on Philipou. We originally may have put a lot of time into him and planned to land him at 13, but now his stocks have risen we want to trade up to get him.

If we do trade up, we're essentially burning all the Jackson compo and opting out of the first round next year (bar losing high end talent in future etc) to land this player, so they better be damn sure he'll be an elite player. Anything less will be considered a list management stuff up of the highest order. He'll need to produce and become more Petracca than Weideman.

Philipou looks a good prospect as that mid/forward impact player, though his field kicking is hit and miss. The Bont comparisons aren't overly accurate IMO. I'm more hoping we trade up to get Sheezel, who looks pure class and has big impact on games up forward. His kicking and footy IQ is elite.

Forget both.

Bombers will take Phillipou and Roos Sheezel. If Bombers don’t Hawks will.

Bombers would want 13 and both our F1 picks knowing Dodoro.

[Lord Travis 10,162]

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Forget both.

Bombers will take Phillipou and Roos Sheezel. If Bombers don’t Hawks will.

Bombers would want 13 and both our F1 picks knowing Dodoro.

We are trying to trade up into the top 5 though, so one of them would be available to us presumably. I agree though, I don’t think it’s going to happen. Clubs in the top 5 will hold and use the picks at draft.

[binman 37,962]

10 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Forget both.

Who?

[durango 1,976]

There is no way any recruit is worth 3 first round picks without playing senior games in the AFL, you don't burn your picks on a player who may turn out to be Jimmy Toumpas.

[Redleg 37,556]

25 minutes ago, binman said:

Who?

Sheezel and Phillipou.

[picket fence 15,101]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Interesting we're keen on Philipou. We originally may have put a lot of time into him and planned to land him at 13, but now his stocks have risen we want to trade up to get him.

If we do trade up, we're essentially burning all the Jackson compo and opting out of the first round next year (bar losing high end talent in future etc) to land this player, so they better be damn sure he'll be an elite player. Anything less will be considered a list management stuff up of the highest order. He'll need to produce and become more Petracca than Weideman.

Philipou looks a good prospect as that mid/forward impact player, though his field kicking is hit and miss. The Bont comparisons aren't overly accurate IMO. I'm more hoping we trade up to get Sheezel, who looks pure class and has big impact on games up forward. His kicking and footy IQ is elite.

Would you consider a PETRACKINGPHILPOUSIS that doesnt gather any WEEDS??

[DeeSpencer 23,110]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2022-order-date-mattaes-phillipou-essendon-reuben-ginbey-west-coast-ed-allan-geelong-jhye-clark-hawthorn/news-story/845c26c5823a732bafc9d99c22a5be37

Foxfooty.com.au understands Melbourne’s primary motivation behind entering the draft earlier is to give itself a chance of securing Phillipou — the son of Sam Phillipou, who kicked 250 goals from 150 SANFL games for the Eagles and Magpies while also playing three AFL games for Footscray.

Was waiting for the news to break and there it is.

190cm+, clean through traffic, long left foot kick, takes a strong overhead mark, great footy pedigree and is a super late birth date who's going to fill out in to a very big and powerful midfielder.

I got a little overexcited about Ed Allan based on my own viewing but as soon as I heard the Phillipou rumour and watched more footage it's clear to me why JT and co see Phillipou as the player to target in this draft.

Unfortunately it seems Essendon have come to their senses too, no matter how much he's tried to tank his interviews.

[Ugottobekidding 915]

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

What kind of Demonlander are you?

Stress free demonlander. We have a premiership... I have total trust in the footy department. 

[Demon Disciple 10,923]

30 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Unfortunately it seems Essendon have come to their senses too, no matter how much he's tried to tank his interviews.

They only came to their senses when they realised JT rates him, so he must be good. Dodo probably has him rated at 50

[binman 37,962]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Sheezel and Phillipou.

Well, i had forgotten both as instructed.

But now i won't be able to forget them.

[adonski 9,136]

Wonder if we like any of the guys projected to go in the 6-10 range, and whether we'll offer a similar package if they're available on draft night 

[Redleg 37,556]

50 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Stress free demonlander. We have a premiership... I have total trust in the footy department. 

So do I. 

[Redleg 37,556]

27 minutes ago, binman said:

Well, i had forgotten both as instructed.

But now i won't be able to forget them.

Look at my key chain.

Follow it closely.

You are getting sleepy.

You are asleep.

When you wake you will have forgotten those 2 footballers I named.

Click, click, you are awake.

[IRW 1,224]

18 hours ago, Redleg said:

You are confused Uncle, as no one has claimed pick 19 is better than 13, yet.

I guarantee that someone will two rounds into 2025

[binman 37,962]

17 hours ago, Redleg said:

Look at my key chain.

Follow it closely.

You are getting sleepy.

You are asleep.

When you wake you will have forgotten those 2 footballers I named.

Click, click, you are awake.

That is so weird. I just lost 17 hours of my life.

The last thing i remember, i was sitting on a train typing a comment into Demonland, and next thing i know i wake up at work reading Demonland. 

I wonder who the club is interested in drafting?

Personally, i'm clueless about such things and happy to put my trust in the recruiting team to get it right (trust they well and truly have earned).

Though i am wondering if they could ask Engorged Onion to do a psych eval of any prospective draftees to screen for mummy issues. 

Edited November 23, 2022 by binman