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35 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wardlaw and Sheezel is my pick in who we'd be trying to nab.

Whilst it included pick 3, the report also said 4 and 5.

Logic (as well as what I’ve heard) says that we wouldn’t attempt to trade up for guys that North have already picked. 

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19 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Cadman and Sheezel would be the right options for us, as we need forward half players who hit the scoreboard. Cadman is pick 1, so he's out of reach. Sheezel will go pick 3-4, so we need to do the trade with North to get one of their pick and a handshake they won't take him with the other one if the pick traded to us is the latter pick.

If you were North, would you trade pick 3/4 for two future first picks in the teens and a future second in the thirties?

It honestly seems like a poor trade for both parties. I'd be angry giving up that much as a Melbourne supporter. And as a North supporter I'd be angry at trading away a top 5 pick. Maybe that means the trade works after all? I'm stumped! If we don't get Cadman or Sheezel though, then trading up seems a fruitless and costly endeavour.

reminds me of what i say to my brother and his wife

I think you could both do better  😂

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7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

this discussion underscores how badly we were dudded in the LJ trade.

There's a gulf between pick three and thirteen 

No point lamenting what has past (we were always going to come out of that trade the loser) - we need to optimize what hand we have now 

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3 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Hate this if true. Two firsts from a strong draft isn't worth compromising for this weaker draft. If anything, trade two future firsts for one future first tied to a likely lowly team like Hawthorn or North.

If we aren't landing a Cadman or Sheezel to add to our front half, then it's not worth compromising for. Those two players will go pick 1-3, so we'd need to land a pick 1-3, which we won't. Hoping the list management team aren't going down this path.

Maybe they know Kozzy is leaving and they’ll regain one/two first rounders for next years draft?

Food for thought…

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1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

this discussion underscores how badly we were dudded in the LJ trade.

There's a gulf between pick three and thirteen 

Dont think of it that way. Think of it as an upgrade from Jackson to Grundy which it is. Maybe longer term we lose out IF Jacko goes on to become a gun. But on form this year we have done very well.

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4 minutes ago, Beetle said:

Maybe they know Kozzy is leaving and they’ll regain one/two first rounders for next years draft?

Food for thought…

Food for thought??? And I haven't even eaten at Uncle's, All night diner, which contains some interesting items!

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2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

this discussion underscores how badly we were dudded in the LJ trade.

There's a gulf between pick three and thirteen 

 

How can you say such a thing when we haven't even selected a player with any pick received from the LJ trade?

Nobody has any idea how it'll turn out. 

Even if we end up staying at pick 13, you've got no idea who that player will be. Or what we'll have in store for next year's draft. 

Talk about gun jumping.

LJ could do his knee next year for all we know. There's no point worrying about this so early on. It's draft picks at this stage lol!? 

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4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Whilst it included pick 3, the report also said 4 and 5.

Logic (as well as what I’ve heard) says that we wouldn’t attempt to trade up for guys that North have already picked. 

 

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

North will keep 2 and 3. So that likely  is not happening.

It’s someone else.


Precisely. We’re not blindly trying to get into the top 5; this a targeted attempt. It’s someone we expect to be available at 5, but likely not far after (depending on who is blatantly unwilling to entertain trading their pick).

I’d assume one of Ginbey, Allan, Phillipou or Tsatas, and we rate them high enough to consider them worth the haul we received for Jackson. Putting it out there, letting teams marinate on it for a couple of weeks & hoping one comes calling on draft day.

I can’t remember where Gold Coast ended up after their trades this year, but surely they’d be keen to acquire future picks for their supposedly blue chip academy players.

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11 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Honestly if we were to salute next year, I really wouldn’t be all that upset if Kozzie were to leave.
 

2-time premiership player, giving the members lots of good memories. Who wouldn’t have we given up 2 years ago, if it meant winning a premiership?

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, I can't agree. It will be utterly devastating when he leaves. The most raw talented player we've had at the club since Jurrah - and he has the work ethic, defense first, team ethos, star power, looks and aggression to boot. Not to mention an extremely rare combination of endurance and speed. Higher output than any small forward in the game and still underrated outside Melbourne fans. Despite all that, you'd be looking at Rankine's trade as the absolute ceiling of what we could get - but we won't. Personally I wouldn't trade him for 2 firsts.

 

Anyway back on topic - believe the player will be Ginbey. Oliver mk2. 

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8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wardlaw and Sheezel is my pick in who we'd be trying to nab.

Reckon it’s Sheezal, but would need one of Norths picks.

We have been keen on Ginbey but not sure that was as a top 5, think that’s when we thought West Coast may have taken Hewett and Busslinger 

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