Aaron Naughton

[Dwight Schrute 16,747]

I'm going to throw up a total hypothetical trade idea without any knowledge of if there is any truth to this. 

Dees: Aaron Naughton

Dogs: Rory Lobb pick 13, Pick 32 

Freo: Luke Jackson

[Lord Nev 13,511]

6 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I'm going to throw up a total hypothetical trade idea without any knowledge of if there is any truth to this. 

Dees: Aaron Naughton

Dogs: Rory Lobb pick 13, Pick 32 

Freo: Luke Jackson

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

[Dwight Schrute 16,747]

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

I see your point, just don't think the Dogs would even give it a second glance unless we offered overs to be honest. 

his contracted status creates a bit of a headache in terms of getting any trade done, i reckon there is a live possibility they'd say no even if Naughton did request a trade, which is unlikely to happen if it hasn't already 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

3 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I see your point, just don't think the Dogs would even give it a second glance unless we offered overs to be honest. 

his contracted status creates a bit of a headache in terms of getting any trade done, i reckon there is a live possibility they'd say no even if Naughton did request a trade, which is unlikely to happen if it hasn't already 

Yep, fair point. I don't really see us having a chance at him barring the long shot of him being one of the players who (apparently) doesn't like the culture and sees a split in the group.

Now, should we still be shopping at the end of 2024, Naughton not re-signed, and Ben Brown finishing up with us.....

 

[Gawndy the Great 7,311]

13 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

Not a chance. LJ may have potential to become a better player, but that is looking unlikely based on this years performance.  
 

If we could do this trade then I’d take it take and run. However LJ is worth more than 13 and 32.

[ChaserJ 3,961]

I’m still trying to get my head around the Dogs pitch to Lobb. They’ve told him that they want him to be their no.1 forward target. I don’t get it.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Just now, CYB said:

Not a chance. LJ may have potential to become a better player, but that is looking unlikely based on this years performance.  
 

If we could do this trade then I’d take it take and run. However LJ is worth more than 13 and 32.

Pick 32 is our pick.

Jackson and 32 for Naughton is clearly overs.

[KLV 1,626]

Ok that’s enough for me, I’ll leave you guys to it. 🛌

 

[spirit of norm smith 12,885]

[Sydee 3,613]

5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Pick 32 is our pick.

Jackson and 32 for Naughton is clearly overs.

Maybe but if we finish up losing Jackson and replacing him with Naughton and Grundy I’d say that’s a pretty good outcome 

[Ethan Tremblay 28,343]

That’s what I’m lead to believe. 

[Demons11 6,404]

37 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

Your bias is blinding you there, I’d take Naughton as a straight swap for Jackson in a heart beat

[adonski 9,120]

Naughton is worth much more than Jackson

[Willmoy1947 3,765]

LJ big contribution to us being Premiers....worth more than Naughton.

[DubDee 20,514]

Anyone that wouldn’t take Naughton for Jackson is dead set mental 

[Nascent 7,225]

11 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

That’s what I’m lead to believe. 

[picket fence 15,087]

Too many on this site have been smokin "Wacky Tabacki" Aaron Naughton to Dees is Alice in Wonderland stuff!

[Lord Nev 13,511]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Your bias is blinding you there, I’d take Naughton as a straight swap for Jackson in a heart beat

Sure, with Jackson leaving I'd be happy if Naughton replaced him, but what I said was "worth", and IMO the market worth of Jackson is higher than Naughton.

Of course, you would note that in the trade scenario we'd be trading Jackson AND a 2nd rounder for Naughton.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

1 hour ago, Sydee said:

Maybe but if we finish up losing Jackson and replacing him with Naughton and Grundy I’d say that’s a pretty good outcome 

Would need to take in the whole big picture of everything, but yeah absolutely.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Anyone that wouldn’t take Naughton for Jackson is dead set mental 

Jackson - Pick 3, Rising Star winner, Premiership player, 20 years old.

Naughton - Pick 9, 22 years old.

I get it, I really want a key forward too and obviously people have 'turned' somewhat on Jackson on Demonland, but you guys are kidding yourselves if you think their worth on the market is the same.

[homsar 393]

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Pick 32 is our pick.

Jackson and 32 for Naughton is clearly overs.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Naughton is a gun and draws a lot of attention from (multiple) defenders and can take an almighty hanger. And he is still young. He can be the main guy whilst we slowly introduce even younger guys like JVR. Allows JVR/Fritter to be 3rd/4th tall next year. 

Surely this rumour is nowhere near the truth though...

[homsar 393]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Jackson - Pick 3, Rising Star winner, Premiership player, 20 years old.

Naughton - Pick 9, 22 years old.

I get it, I really want a key forward too and obviously people have 'turned' somewhat on Jackson on Demonland, but you guys are kidding yourselves if you think their worth on the market is the same.

Why does their pick they initially went at matter?

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Just now, homsar said:

Why does their pick they initially went at matter?

Given their ages it clearly has an impact, albeit not a main one, on their worth on the trade market.

Again, would love Naughton, be unreal for us, but in terms of trade market worth Jackson would be higher IMO. As good as he is, I don't see any clubs being willing to offer 2 top 10 picks and a million a year for him.

[homsar 393]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Given their ages it clearly has an impact, albeit not a main one, on their worth on the trade market.

Again, would love Naughton, be unreal for us, but in terms of trade market worth Jackson would be higher IMO. As good as he is, I don't see any clubs being willing to offer 2 top 10 picks and a million a year for him.

Fair enough - we all have different opinions on players. But I maintain the pick they went at initially should have no bearing. That is what he cost us, which has nothing to do with his worth or what others may be willing to spend to get him. If Jackson is a better player (or better potential, or whatever) than Naughton, then that is all that any other club would care about.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

1 minute ago, homsar said:

Fair enough - we all have different opinions on players. But I maintain the pick they went at initially should have no bearing. That is what he cost us, which has nothing to do with his worth or what others may be willing to spend to get him. If Jackson is a better player (or better potential, or whatever) than Naughton, then that is all that any other club would care about.

It doesn't eventually, but for 20/22 year old key position players it does IMO (unless they're complete duds).

Where would Jackson go if he was in the draft this year? How about Naughton? Guarantee you 99% of people (outside of those on Demonland who have now turned on him and are desperate for a key forward) would have Jackson going first out of the two.