Farewell Jayden Hunt

[Demon Disciple 10,924]

8 hours ago, rpfc said:

Look, for the last time, Jayden is sorry for running over your pet turtle.

To be fair, that turtle had it coming 🤬

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9 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Joel Smith who now is in line to be Hunt’s replacement.

God almighty, shoot (sic) me now!  Hey, JH is Andy Moir's nephew.  Maybe that redresses the balance.  Joel Smith could be an understudy for Lever as an intercepting third tall back.  In the acid test of Charlie Cameron, he gets turned inside out. He deserts his man to go fourth up, tends to give away silly freekicks and 50's.  Best to keep Hunt if that is the plan.

Hunt with all his speed has only been successful as fourth tallest back, which is adequately covered by Rivers, Hibberd and the next rookie.  His disposal has greatly improved but is not elite like many of the others. 

So if he wants to go, good luck to him and thanks for the third round pick.

[He de mon 730]

Why is DL sponsorship the kiss of death?

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7 hours ago, A F said:

Shirley, you can't be serious?

[BillyBeane 211]

Hunt always had a real crack, and seemed like a great clubman. He never quite seemed to recapture the form he showed before getting knocked out in a crows game. 

Good luck to him.

His footy was definitely better than his drawing though 😂: 
 

 

 

[dazzledavey36 48,708]

22 hours ago, A F said:

And yet Spargo always polls well in coaches awards and is continually selected, so perhaps plan A is not to bomb it long to the outnumber and ignore him?

I do t remember Spargo polling a single coaches vote this year.

[dazzledavey36 48,708]

9 hours ago, dworship said:

Mrs Dw spoke to him at the B&F, he didn't "chose" to go elsewhere he was really disappointed to be pushed out.

This is really disappointing to me and in a way doesn't make sense.

We're happy to push out Jayden Hunt but then resign Joel Smith to a bloody 2 year deal who's body is quite fragile. 

At worse, Jayden Hunt would still be solid depth next year.

 

[bluey 890]

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53 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This is really disappointing to me and in a way doesn't make sense.

We're happy to push out Jayden Hunt but then resign Joel Smith to a bloody 2 year deal who's body is quite fragile. 

At worse, Jayden Hunt would still be solid depth next year.

 

Language is important. And the 'felt' experience of Jayden is true for him.

If he felt pushed out then that is a real experience, feeling angry, feeling sad.

However, I'd imagine the conversation didn't go like 'Jayden, we're pushing you out'.

The FD role is to perpetually improve the list, that is their intention, even with good servants, and even with people that the supporters like. Nonetheless, I am sure clear and concise information was given to Jayden (as it fits in with the culture of respect and transparency) as to why it would be good for him to explore options (as I am sure his manager was already doing this).

Overall this is a little vignette of when a club is pushing to remain top 4 for a few years to come. The trade off between being loyal to incumbents and seeking to improving lists, whilst understanding that incumbents have a right to seek greater security, or greater pleasure in roles, or role clarity elsewhere if they can.

Clearly the FD see Jayden's deficits as a bigger threat to potential premiership success than his assets.

I'd also argue that if Jayden was on the list for another year, and happened to have Bowey or someone is surpass him. Then he may be languising in the 2's and thus miss out on an opportunity to be on a list after that.

So if we get all Brene Brown - 'being clear, is being kind' - and it's actually a compassionate and humanistic act to give him that information for him to choose to seek opportunities elsewhere.

 

 

[Rab D Nesbitt 7,107]

It's never nice to see quality people leave an organisation we feel they belong at. It's also no wonder he's disappointed having finally found a permanent spot in arguably the best Melbourne side ever. However, after many years at the club our coaches will have a really good idea of what he's good at, what he's not so good at, and more importantly what part of his game he's realistically likely to improve on at this stage of his career. In this industry you can't stand still. 

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14 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

Has he/the club, confirmed he is gone? 😔

People talk about the headband... I'll miss the blonde 'mo'...if that's what the kids call it these days.

Exactly. I have seen no confirmation.

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2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This is really disappointing to me and in a way doesn't make sense.

We're happy to push out Jayden Hunt but then resign Joel Smith to a bloody 2 year deal who's body is quite fragile. 

At worse, Jayden Hunt would still be solid depth next year.

 

I’d be shocked if we didn’t offer Hunt at least 1 and most likely a 2 year deal on depth player money. At a minimum the contract Smith signed and likely more. It’s not like we’ve delisted him. 

His management team probably went and got the best offer available and said to the Dees get within a reasonable amount of this and I’ll stay. 

If we didn’t up our offer or even pulled the offer knowing we couldn’t get anywhere near his market value then that counts as ‘pushing’ him. Doesn’t mean we didn’t want him on the list, just not at the salary spot he could demand.

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16 hours ago, bluey said:

Gutted by this, the football management team have no idea.

We lost a few games sure, but the reason behind them had nothing to with Hunty, Scapegoating time, let’s save our own [censored].

🤣🤣🤣cmon mate get a grip 

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This is really disappointing to me and in a way doesn't make sense.

We're happy to push out Jayden Hunt but then resign Joel Smith to a bloody 2 year deal who's body is quite fragile. 

At worse, Jayden Hunt would still be solid depth next year.

 

Not sure, but perhaps Smith was much cheaper than Hunt? And offers more versatility? 

I'd say both Hunt and Smith are more athletes than footballers, so I get where you're coming from, but reckon it's a case of Hunt wanting more money and potentially the extra year, versus Smith needing two years and less money.

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26 minutes ago, A F said:

Not sure, but perhaps Smith was much cheaper than Hunt? And offers more versatility? 

I'd say both Hunt and Smith are more athletes than footballers, so I get where you're coming from, but reckon it's a case of Hunt wanting more money and potentially the extra year, versus Smith needing two years and less money.

I think Hunt's weakness is his lack of lateral movement.  Smith has it and offers much greater upside as a result and probably has more tricks.  Having said that if you can't get on the park you're no good to anybody.

I'd also like to address the Smith v Camerson issue.  Yes, Cameron kicked 5 goals.  For one Smith was on the bench.  Another was when Rivers handballed to Cameron when he was trying to get the ball to Smith and Cameron ran into an open goal.  Smith was involved in the other 3.  Guess what?  Cameron has kicked 3 goals on the best of opponents in one on one's and is a great player who was in great form.  Cameron kicked 3 on Hibbo in the final.

I'd prefer to have Smith to Hunt on the list.  We know Hunt's ceiling and we don't really need it.  Smith, if he succeeds, could be a really good player who offers a great deal of versatility.  Smith is higher risk for higher reward.  For where our list is we can afford that position.

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5 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

I think Hunt's weakness is his lack of lateral movement.  Smith has it and offers much greater upside as a result and probably has more tricks.  Having said that if you can't get on the park you're no good to anybody.

I'd also like to address the Smith v Camerson issue.  Yes, Cameron kicked 5 goals.  For one Smith was on the bench.  Another was when Rivers handballed to Cameron when he was trying to get the ball to Smith and Cameron ran into an open goal.  Smith was involved in the other 3.  Guess what?  Cameron has kicked 3 goals on the best of opponents in one on one's and is a great player who was in great form.  Cameron kicked 3 on Hibbo in the final.

I'd prefer to have Smith to Hunt on the list.  We know Hunt's ceiling and we don't really need it.  Smith, if he succeeds, could be a really good player who offers a great deal of versatility.  Smith is higher risk for higher reward.  For where our list is we can afford that position.

Hunt and Smith are what they are.  They are not improving at their age.  They both have some athletic attributes but will never be a consistent AFL player. 
Hunt is a fan fav and one of my favourites but him leaving won’t hurt us on field  

Edited October 2, 2022 by Demons11

[durango 1,976]

He was offered a contract but declined the offer and we should leave it at that, he is wanting a new start and WC offered him one.

At least he played over 100 games for the MFC so any offspring may select to play for the MFC.

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1 hour ago, Slartibartfast said:

I think Hunt's weakness is his lack of lateral movement.  Smith has it and offers much greater upside as a result and probably has more tricks.  Having said that if you can't get on the park you're no good to anybody.

I'd also like to address the Smith v Camerson issue.  Yes, Cameron kicked 5 goals.  For one Smith was on the bench.  Another was when Rivers handballed to Cameron when he was trying to get the ball to Smith and Cameron ran into an open goal.  Smith was involved in the other 3.  Guess what?  Cameron has kicked 3 goals on the best of opponents in one on one's and is a great player who was in great form.  Cameron kicked 3 on Hibbo in the final.

I'd prefer to have Smith to Hunt on the list.  We know Hunt's ceiling and we don't really need it.  Smith, if he succeeds, could be a really good player who offers a great deal of versatility.  Smith is higher risk for higher reward.  For where our list is we can afford that position.

Agree and I think Hunt's $350k into 2025 is the sealer.

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2 hours ago, A F said:

Not sure, but perhaps Smith was much cheaper than Hunt? And offers more versatility? 

I'd say both Hunt and Smith are more athletes than footballers, so I get where you're coming from, but reckon it's a case of Hunt wanting more money and potentially the extra year, versus Smith needing two years and less money.

I'd agree except we're lucky to get 5 games a year from Smith which is really my main issue with resigning for a further 2 years as well.

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54 minutes ago, durango said:

He was offered a contract but declined the offer and we should leave it at that, he is wanting a new start and WC offered him one.

At least he played over 100 games for the MFC so any offspring may select to play for the MFC.

It was reported on Friday that Hunt hadn't even been offered a contract by the Dees.

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11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It was reported on Friday that Hunt hadn't even been offered a contract by the Dees.

Daz, if he wasn’t offered a contract, why then was he picked ahead of Bowey for our last final? Not saying it’s not true, but just doesn’t make sense to me.

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Turner will be a better option than Hunt,  delistings tomorrow or Tuesday I expect

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47 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'd agree except we're lucky to get 5 games a year from Smith which is really my main issue with resigning for a further 2 years as well.

Sydney allegedly offered him two, so we upped our deal to keep him. Thems the breaks sometimes.

45 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It was reported on Friday that Hunt hadn't even been offered a contract by the Dees.

It was also reported by @Demons11 (?) that Hunt was offered a deal earlier in the year, which he refused to sign.

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On 10/1/2022 at 11:48 AM, Nasher said:

You should have burst in to tears and said it was because you’d heard he was going and see how he reacted. Probably would have been pretty awkward and embarrassing for both you and Jayden, but it would have been pretty entertaining for anyone witnessing it. 😁

Too soon?

Waaaay too soon. 😭

As for us both being embarrassed by such an outburst… him, yeah probs. Me, not at all for I am she of zero shame. 

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On 10/1/2022 at 8:59 AM, KLV said:

Oh that’s so sad wcw, I hope you gave him a little cuddle 

“Little”????! When it comes to cuddles I don’t do little. There’s only two kinds in my artillery… no cuddle since you’re too far away, and Huuuge cuddle until Security comes to jemmy me off you. 
Jayden copped the latter. But only in my head.