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10 hours ago, Tracca said:

Cause he lives in Adelaide and is Hinkleys assistant

Sorry, I've been living outside of Australia for too long. I forgot that planes don't exist and that you can't cross state borders. And that no assistants are allowed to change jobs. My bad. Please don't let the authorities know that he once had a clandestine position at Essendon. 

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5 hours ago, RedFox said:

Got on pretty good authority we've already had a chat to Stevie J. Being courted by a handful of Vic clubs.

Hope so RF... major change ups needed if we're to stay in touch and hopefully snag one soonish

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If Josh Kennedy is coming back to Melbourne, as suggested, he’d be on equal footing with Stevie J in my mind.

All reports suggest he’s a ripper bloke and universally loved, doesn’t hurt that he’s kicked goals at will for many, many years

 

I’d also add, Chocco seemed to have a great influence first up but that has vanished

 

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15 hours ago, Skuit said:

Sorry, I've been living outside of Australia for too long. I forgot that planes don't exist and that you can't cross state borders. And that no assistants are allowed to change jobs. My bad. Please don't let the authorities know that he once had a clandestine position at Essendon. 

He once had a position at Essendon then moved back to his home state where his whole family is and where he’s spent the majority of his life and career…..in Adelaide 

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20 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

The pies made a granny in 2018, a Prelim in '19 and a semi in' 20.

The idea that their list is less developed or worse than ours is a furphy. 

They have far better balance across their list and they are a much better ball movement side because of this. They can move the ball the way they do because of their list and not their coach. We've implemented a game-plan that is suited to our list's strengths so if we want that to change, list changes and positions will need to also be changed. 

 

Way to logical for this place Jimmy

Agree completely WE have a list that is suited to our current game plan 

If we want to change that we need to seriously look at the current list including the need for specialist rucks

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19 hours ago, BDA said:

Nothing wrong with our ball movement when we played the Lions in Rd 23. Perhaps the pies are better kicks but i don't think we have a fatal flaw in this regard. Coached properly i reckon we can tweak our game plan to be more adventurous and daring

There is a difference between hitting a target, when streaming out the front of a centre clearance (what the Dees can sometimes do), and picking off an aggressive corridor target from the half-back flank that sets up a goal (what the pies can do). 

Don’t kid yourself, our foot skills are not even close to the pies. Which has a direct correlation on our ball movement, and the game style we are capable of playing. 
 

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For those who don't know re: Bassett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Bassett

As a 19-year-old and was drafted at pick 3 by Melbourne Football Club in the inaugural AFL rookie draft.

Melbourne[edit]

Drafted with the third selection in the first AFL Rookie Draft by Melbourne in 1997,[1] Bassett was elevated to the senior list after Round 4 in 1997 to replace Craig Turley but suffered a fractured sternum in the next Reserves game and was unable to make his AFL debut for the Demons.[2] When he made his return to the reserves he played six more games at full forward but didn't see much of the ball and wasn't suited to the role.[3] At the end of the season he was traded to Adelaide for Matthew Collins and Brent Williams.

So ... we had him as a player and then he was traded back home.

As he has spent so much time in Adelaide, perhaps he is happy to stay there?

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There are definitely a few retiring champions at other AFL Clubs that could become assistant coaches at the Demons.

It will also be interesting what happens to some of the assistant coaches at Essendon depending upon who gets the vacant senior coaching role there.

Both Blake Caracella and Daniel Giansiracusa are highly regarded.

 

Additionally, there are lots of options for the Demons...

1) Stevie J aka Steve Johnson

2) Josh Kennedy from the Swans

3) Josh Kennedy from the Eagles

4) David Mundy from the Dockers

5) Gary Ablett Junior

6) Shaun Higgins from the Cats

7) Robbie Gray from Port Power

8) Shane Edwards from the Tigers

9) Jarryn Geary from the Saints

10) Liam Shiels from the Hawks

Here are 10 suggestions of recently retired players we could at least consider having at the Melbourne Football Club as assistant coaches.

 

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5 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

There are definitely a few retiring champions at other AFL Clubs that could become assistant coaches at the Demons.

It will also be interesting what happens to some of the assistant coaches at Essendon depending upon who gets the vacant senior coaching role there.

Both Blake Caracella and Daniel Giansiracusa are highly regarded.

 

Additionally, there are lots of options for the Demons...

1) Stevie J aka Steve Johnson

2) Josh Kennedy from the Swans

3) Josh Kennedy from the Eagles

4) David Mundy from the Dockers

5) Gary Ablett Junior

6) Shaun Higgins from the Cats

7) Robbie Gray from Port Power

8) Shane Edwards from the Tigers

9) Jarryn Geary from the Saints

10) Liam Shiels from the Hawks

Here are 10 suggestions of recently retired players we could at least consider having at the Melbourne Football Club as assistant coaches.

 

Just because you are a retired or recently retired footballer doesn't mean you'll be a good assistant coach. Good communication skills and high footy IQ and knowing how to teach it are crucial.

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2 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Yes, absolutely.

It all depends upon if a retired AFL player has the desire to coach as well.

Garry Lyon probably would of become a brilliant AFL coach but he chose the media route and I don't think he regrets it. You gotta want to be an AFL coach.

Gary Lyon would have been a rubbish AFL coach. At least he was smart enough to realise this and stuck to the media.

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2 hours ago, cantstandyasam said:

Just because you are a retired or recently retired footballer doesn't mean you'll be a good assistant coach. Good communication skills and high footy IQ and knowing how to teach it are crucial.

I'm not a fan of the recently retired player as coach thing but I would take a good hard look at Joel Selwood if he gave it away and wanted to pursue coaching.

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2 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

There are definitely a few retiring champions at other AFL Clubs that could become assistant coaches at the Demons.

It will also be interesting what happens to some of the assistant coaches at Essendon depending upon who gets the vacant senior coaching role there.

Both Blake Caracella and Daniel Giansiracusa are highly regarded.

 

Additionally, there are lots of options for the Demons...

1) Stevie J aka Steve Johnson

2) Josh Kennedy from the Swans

3) Josh Kennedy from the Eagles

4) David Mundy from the Dockers

5) Gary Ablett Junior

6) Shaun Higgins from the Cats

7) Robbie Gray from Port Power

8) Shane Edwards from the Tigers

9) Jarryn Geary from the Saints

10) Liam Shiels from the Hawks

Here are 10 suggestions of recently retired players we could at least consider having at the Melbourne Football Club as assistant coaches.

 

I know someone who's been intimately involved with Josh J. Kennedy. The Deez would be wise to consider him now or in the future. 

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I don’t want a recent retiree near us. If we lose Adem and Williams we need to replace with experienced assistants and dev coaches.

We are chasing flags, we are not here to be a teaching hospital for neophyte coaches.

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12 hours ago, rjay said:

Gary Lyon would have been a rubbish AFL coach. At least he was smart enough to realise this and stuck to the media.

Wrong wrong wrong RJ 

Gary has one if the sharpest brains in footy and IMO should be an extra member of our " coaches" and Selectors who we can consult or he approach us as and when required. Like Roos did at  North but better option with greater cattle to deal with!!

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5 hours ago, 58er said:

Wrong wrong wrong RJ 

Gary has one if the sharpest brains in footy and IMO should be an extra member of our " coaches" and Selectors who we can consult or he approach us as and when required. Like Roos did at  North but better option with greater cattle to deal with!!

I’m with RJ. Every time Gary Lyon has taken a active role at the MFC,  he has mucked it up. I have no doubt his heart is in the right place but his brain certainly isn’t.

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5 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

I’m with RJ. Every time Gary Lyon has taken a active role at the MFC,  he has mucked it up. I have no doubt his heart is in the right place but his brain certainly isn’t.

Apart from hiring Mark Neeld what are some of these other roles he's mucked up?

Thought his first year out of the game in a support coaching role helping to bring on young forwards like Brad Green and Cameron Bruce was pretty useful. 

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7 hours ago, 58er said:

Wrong wrong wrong RJ 

Gary has one if the sharpest brains in footy and IMO should be an extra member of our " coaches" and Selectors who we can consult or he approach us as and when required. Like Roos did at  North but better option with greater cattle to deal with!!

Gary has no people skills and that is the first thing needed to be a coach.

As for sharp brain...I think he's great a stating the obvious but like most of his generation adds nothing of interest when commenting on the game.

Consultant, give me a break. The last time he did that we got Neeld.

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13 hours ago, rpfc said:

I don’t want a recent retiree near us. If we lose Adem and Williams we need to replace with experienced assistants and dev coaches.

We are chasing flags, we are not here to be a teaching hospital for neophyte coaches.

I agree that we need experience...that was an important part of our success in 2021.

I thought prior to that our FD was too young in coaching terms.

If the FD spend is up then I would consider adding a fresh face (Selwood)...

...but quality experience is number one.

 

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