CASEY: PF vs Brisbane

[Diamond_Jim 11,679]

2 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Weird has shown plenty the last couple of games as a ruck forward.

Be interested to see him played in that role for the pre season and into next. Just might be his future role at AFL level.

Couldn’t play him, Tmac and Brown in the same forward line but you could play him Tmac and JVR who has a lot more mobility and much better below his knees

Need to also play some time up forward in VFL. His role is 1.5 goals and 30% ruck plus a few marks around the ground. He took 4 marks today which is not stellar for the first ruck.

I like the experimentation.

Had hoped for more from Joel Smith today. I think it's his fourth game back at this level

[bing181 8,149]

7 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Weird has shown plenty the last couple of games as a ruck forward.

Setting himself up for a decent contract somewhere else?

[mo64 5,208]

3 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Weird has shown plenty the last couple of games as a ruck forward.

Be interested to see him played in that role for the pre season and into next. Just might be his future role at AFL level.

Couldn’t play him, Tmac and Brown in the same forward line but you could play him Tmac and JVR who has a lot more mobility and much better below his knees

No you can't. Weid is not a 3rd tall forward at AFL level.

And your pregame spiel on JVR was off the mark. We played 3 banged up talls in BBB, Gawn and Jackson, and none of them could give 100% effort across the whole game. Regardless of the level of play, JVR gives effort every time you see him. And I don't see how JVR is any different to Jye Amiss, who made an impact for Freo in a final.

[cantstandyasam 700]

20 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Wakefield has been awesome. So exciting. Has a bit of Fritta about him. 
 

Mitch Brown is an amazing VFL player. I think we should delist him but Casey should sign him up. He looks like he can play 10 more years at this level. 

I was thinking the same thing delist and sign him up as a Casey player with onfield coaching.

[Tom Dyson 1,492]

Most of those afl listed dees players were playing like people with a point to prove, with hunger and dare. 

Why the dis-connect between the afl and vfl sides, if the boys played with that much desire last night the result I reckon could have been different. If there's one thing we need to recapture over summer, its got to be going back to playing for each other. 

[Fat Tony 4,372]

7 minutes ago, mo64 said:

The ruckwork of T Mac and JVR when up forward has me thinking that Max plays 85% game time as a pure ruckman, and T Mac and JVR could share the other 15%. Ditch the idea of playing Max up forward. 

I've liked how Weid has developed as a ruckman, but he's not good enough as an AFL forward.

Makes so much more sense than Grundy. 

[cantstandyasam 700]

6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

JVR is so cute. Spoke like a true first year player. Get him a girlfriend ASAP so he doesn’t contemplate doing a Jackson!

 

 

That's the ticket. We need him to have an emotional connection with Melbourne and a steady girlfriend who loves Melbourne is a must.

[Jaded No More 57,680]

Will be interesting to see if Tmac and Melksham play in the grand final next week. Tmac could be the only player to go back to back this year. 

[DeeSpencer 23,061]

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

No you can't. Weid is not a 3rd tall forward at AFL level.

And your pregame spiel on JVR was off the mark. We played 3 banged up talls in BBB, Gawn and Jackson, and none of them could give 100% effort across the whole game. Regardless of the level of play, JVR gives effort every time you see him. And I don't see how JVR is any different to Jye Amiss, who made an impact for Freo in a final.

You could pluck someone from the crowd and they’d make an impact with the way the dogs were defending in the second half against Freo.

Brown, Melk and Jackson did the job in the first half when the team played to the game plan. JVR would’ve been stuffed at half time and needing a miracle to impact in the second half.

Big preseason and he’ll be right to go.

[Deeoldfart 7,712]

Casey Dees  did a lot that the Melbourne Dees couldn't do last night.  Ball movement and F50 entries so much cleaner.  Some nice young prospects as well (esp. JVR, AMW).  Nothing will ease the deep pain of last night, but that was the equivalent of a Panadol.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Deeoldfart

[Pennant St Dee 11,246]

5 minutes ago, mo64 said:

No you can't. Weid is not a 3rd tall forward at AFL level.

And your pregame spiel on JVR was off the mark. We played 3 banged up talls in BBB, Gawn and Jackson, and none of them could give 100% effort across the whole game. Regardless of the level of play, JVR gives effort every time you see him. And I don't see how JVR is any different to Jye Amiss, who made an impact for Freo in a final.

Gawn and Jackson are both ruckman

Weid would be our 2nd tall and pinch hitter in the ruck

JVR would be the third tall. Max couldn’t have played 90%ruck last night and Freo don’t bomb the ball in they come in quick once they play plenty of lateral footy in their back half to spread the oval and get separation from their forwards looking for the 1v1 and when the ball hits the deck they pounce with Walters, Frederick, Switzkowski, the resting mid etc. Lobb and Darcy when resting are the pack braking forwards for Freo, JVR is not ready to do that at AFL level yet

[Davos 734]

Haven't watched much Casey this year, but who in the world is this Moniz-Wakefield kid? Looks an AFL talent based on that game.

[cantstandyasam 700]

17 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Weird has shown plenty the last couple of games as a ruck forward.

Be interested to see him played in that role for the pre season and into next. Just might be his future role at AFL level.

Couldn’t play him, Tmac and Brown in the same forward line but you could play him Tmac and JVR who has a lot more mobility and much better below his knees

Brown isn't the player he once was, only kicked one goal in 2 finals this year. He shouldn't be an automatic lock for AFL games. In fact no-one should other than Trac, Clarry & Gawn. We lost last night at the selection table. It was obvious that we wouldn't kick a winning score with the same players as last week. Still can't understand how we went into the last 2 weeks with only one tall in the forward half. We could've selected JVR instead of Melksham and still would've been better off. Gawn as ruck and Jacko as ruckrover. However Goody trusts his system and that failed us this year. His system relied on us being superfit and disciplined which we were not. May was very undisciplined last week and Kossie this week. Such a shame.

[Dee-licious 1,800]

It was great to watch and we really were a level above the lions. 
The young kids do look really good. JVR and Bowey look like they will slot right in round 1 next year. 
TMac will be good back in the seniors and if Tomlinson and Dunstan are required they’ll be fine. 
Smith is working back nicely and I can see why they want him around. If he could have a good run at it, who knows. 
Chandler and Bedford have something about them, but need a role. 
AMW is the real surprise packet for me. I’ve liked what he’s done, but today was a little different. Just looked like he could change a game if needed. It makes me wonder, his background is NT Thunder. I just wonder what it would have been like if he was at a Brighton Grammar and had regular coaching, routines, etc. The talent is clearly more than we see in most draftees, looking forward to seeing him another year in the system. Could be anything. 

[Demon4Life 599]

Good to see McDonald and Van Rooyen putting their hand up for selection next week

[Neil Crompton 4,676]

Chandler looked great again today - cannot see why he hasn't been given an opportunity at AFL.

Bedford has so much going for him - but he tends to spend it before he controls it a lot of the time, which is very frustrating (and for him too i imagine).

Sam looked good all day - and so pleased he looks to have found a role that could well get him back to AFL.

[DeeSpencer 23,061]

8 minutes ago, Davos said:

Haven't watched much Casey this year, but who in the world is this Moniz-Wakefield kid? Looks an AFL talent based on that game.

He’s had a number of little injury set backs but every week he’s good for a few special things. His marking for his size and his ability to make a quick decision with the ball are both valuable traits. 

[rjay 23,869]

15 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

He’s had a number of little injury set backs but every week he’s good for a few special things. His marking for his size and his ability to make a quick decision with the ball are both valuable traits. 

Apart from JVR he looks like a real prospect, probably the best of the bunch that have yet to play an AFL game.

[Nascent 7,209]

47 minutes ago, mo64 said:

The ruckwork of T Mac and JVR when up forward has me thinking that Max plays 85% game time as a pure ruckman, and T Mac and JVR could share the other 15%. Ditch the idea of playing Max up forward. 

I've liked how Weid has developed as a ruckman, but he's not good enough as an AFL forward.

That's fair and JvR has done some rucking this year as well so club clearly thinks he can pinch hit there.

[Fat Tony 4,372]

Why is TMac allowed to play next week?

[DeeZone 7,670]

A pretty dominant outing against the number 4 AFL listed team, good to see Mitch Robinson getting plenty thrown back at him. Another great team effort by Casey.!!!

[dazzledavey36 48,651]

Great performance by Casey. It was a team effort all around.

If we're dead set wanting to save cap money then forget Grundy and trial Weideman as a ruck/forward. Give him one last hit because the last two Casey games I've watched him as a ruckman he's dominated.

He could relieve Gawn but also play as that 2nd tall with JVR as the 3rd tall forward with maybe Harrison Petty/Tom McDonald.  

JVR is the real deal. I've banged on about him far too much this year. Told you he's the real deal @Bitter but optimistic. The excitement is real. His 2nd efforts and defensive tackling pressure for such a big dude is insane.

Chandler and Bedford need to play more senior games next year, it's as simple as that. The dynamic and X factor these two have is untapped imo. Spargo and ANB are under pressure imo because I think they've been incredibly disappointing this year.

Blake Howes has certainly grown. He looks 192cm tall instead of the 190cm as listed. I would also like to see him train in his natural position as a 3rd floating forward. Reminded me of Gunston when he took that mark.

Corey Ellison is absolutely worth a look imo even as a train on player. Has solid hands and is physically mature as well. Rarely gets beaten.

How exciting is Andy Moniz Wakefield? His ariel work and leap is very impressive. He's such a unique player that I actually don't know who I'd compare him to in the AFL. Strong summer and hopefully few NAB games next to Kozzie.

Onto the big dance! 

Edited September 10, 2022 by dazzledavey36

[Flower Magic 682]

Out all afternoon so couldn't watch. Is there any way to access a replay?

[spirit of norm smith 12,843]

Excellent win by Casey.  Not quite a painkiller for last nights nightmare, but at least the club & supporters have a reason to look forward to next week.  
 

Great to see Bowey, Chandler and Tmcd all showing why they should have played last night. Weideman was excellent in the ruck but he was only against Lions 19yo 4th level ruck in Henry Smith.  Bedford had a good game as did Turner, Tomlinson, Baker and Dunstan. 

JVR will be very good.
AMW can be a bright spark with guidance and a Choco’s development academy !!  
Howes has some nice moves and will be better with a full preseason   

Really hope Casey can win the GF. It’d be a great boost for the youngsters and a reward for the vets like Mitch Brown (and Munro and White).  

 

[Tarax Club 2,857]

6 Luke Dunstan

5 James Munro

4 Adam Tomlinson

3 Sam Weideman

2 Mitch Brown

1 Mitch White

Honourable mentions;

Jacob van Rooyen

Toby Bedford

Kade Chandler

Andy Moniz-Wakefield

Jake Bowey

Tom MacDonald

Matt Buntine

Adjudication;

All fair and reasonable

Broadcast;

Due deference was observed and the game went live.

Opposition hyperbole watch;

Mitch Robinson's last hurrah! Sat unceremoniously on his ar$e, courtesy Mitch White shirtfront priceless!

Overall comment;

Give me six leading footballers from this team refresh and rule the 'G.

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Tarax Club