CASEY: Rd 19 vs Northern Bullants

[The Stigga 879]

JVR has to play in the ones next week 

[DeeSpencer 23,105]

Are Dunstan, Munro, Baldi and Mitch White effectively Sauntner-ing our young mids?

Bedford, Chandler, Laurie even Woewodin are all good enough to get significant midfield minutes. 

They’d get 25 disposals rather than 15ish. That’s 60% more chances to work on their disposal and decision making. 

Fair enough to use the big bodies when we’re playing a top side, but against Preston’s collection of Northern footy league level players I don’t think we’re getting the right development here.

[Demonland 64,711]

 

[Demonland 64,711]

From earlier

 

[Gator 16,891]

van Rooyen is a two-grabber.  He also dropped an easy chest mark from a perfect pass.  Dropping chest marks is my pet hate.  Infuriating.

He's a smart player with plenty of ability, but he's also a fair way off AFL level for mine.  That said, they named him as an emergency, so he may not be far off getting a taste.

[KC from Casey 6,514]

Three Quarter Time: Casey Demons 14.12.96 to Northern Bullants 4.3.27

Goals Van Rooyen 4 M Brown Chandler Dunstan 2 Bedford Laurie Moniz-Wakefield White

Dunstan is dominating the possessions. JVR the main goal kicker.

[Diamond_Jim 11,731]

7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Are Dunstan, Munro, Baldi and Mitch White effectively Sauntner-ing our young mids?

Bedford, Chandler, Laurie even Woewodin are all good enough to get significant midfield minutes. 

They’d get 25 disposals rather than 15ish. That’s 60% more chances to work on their disposal and decision making. 

Fair enough to use the big bodies when we’re playing a top side, but against Preston’s collection of Northern footy league level players I don’t think we’re getting the right development here.

Good point

Last week I mentioned that we are not challenging the younger players enough but there was strong disagreement by some

Even a half in a new position every second or third week would do no harm.

Winning the VFL flag is nice but it's not the real game

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Annnnd that's 5...

Get him in.

[binman 37,924]

Great signs. Smith takes a great pack mark and kicks beautifully to JVR in open space for his fifth

[adonski 9,131]

Laurie's hands are excellent

[Fritta and Turner 3,650]

I think we might have this....

[DeeSpencer 23,105]

6 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

van Rooyen is a two-grabber.  He also dropped an easy chest mark from a perfect pass.  Dropping chest marks is my pet hate.  Infuriating.

He's a smart player with plenty of ability, but he's also a fair way off AFL level for mine.  That said, they named him as an emergency, so he may not be far off getting a taste.

Marking anything out at Casey today is near on impossible with the breeze.

JVR’s clunked plenty of clean marks this year, and his contesting against an experienced afl defender in Cordy last week was good. 

But for now Brown or even Weid are more likely to halve contests against good afl defenders due to their size and strength.
 

And Melk is in the other key forward role because he has a seasoned afl tank and 200 games of experience. His positioning and ability to find some uncontested disposals is just superior to a young fella.

But in both of those important aspects JVR is building. He’s not far away 

[Diamond_Jim 11,731]

If you were playing the drinking game for every time the commentator uses the word "spikes" you'd be under the table

[Rab D Nesbitt 7,105]

If the emergencies from last night are playing at Casey today then surely Weeds could've played as well. 

[KC from Casey 6,514]

Bedford in the act this quarter 

[Gator 16,891]

18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Marking anything out at Casey today is near on impossible with the breeze.

JVR’s clunked plenty of clean marks this year, and his contesting against an experienced afl defender in Cordy last week was good. 

But for now Brown or even Weid are more likely to halve contests against good afl defenders due to their size and strength.
 

And Melk is in the other key forward role because he has a seasoned afl tank and 200 games of experience. His positioning and ability to find some uncontested disposals is just superior to a young fella.

But in both of those important aspects JVR is building. He’s not far away 

Against Footscray in slippery conditions he couldn't hold his marks.  At the other end Sam Darcy was one-grabbing contested marks in the same greasy conditions.

I like JVR and anybody is better than Weideman, but I don't consider him to be presently a strong mark, nor do I think he'll compete well one-on-one against AFL bodies.

He is however a very smart player at ground level and very athletic.

He's the only 194+cm key forward on our list with a leap.

Our key position forward stocks are presently so woeful I'm not against van Rooyen debuting soon.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Hannibal Inc.

[Diamond_Jim 11,731]

Smith getting some touches in this last quarter.

The last thing he needs is a bye next week and of course that's what we have

Love the cockatoo sound effects

[Brownie 5,159]

6 minutes ago, KC from Casey said:

Bedford in the act this quarter 

That goal in the pocket by Bedford must have been about four or five defensive efforts in a row by him. Just pure guts and persistence when the game was already in the bag.

Great goal

 

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Not sure how to judge VFL form but boy oh boy our future looks bright with some of the young kids coming though.

[KC from Casey 6,514]

And that’s a wrap - a whopping 91 point win to the Casey Demons. Luke Dunstan gets leather poisoning with 41 touches. Jacob Van Rooyen comes away with a 5 goal haul. 

CASEY DEMONS 6.3.39 8.7.55 14.12.96 18.17.125

NORTHERN BULLANTS 0.1.1 4.3.27 4.3.27 5.4.34 

Goals 

Casey Demons Van Rooyen 5 Bedford M Brown 3 Chandler Dunstan 2 Laurie Moniz-Wakefield White 

Northern Bullants Boyd Honey Kolar Murphy Nikolovski

Best 

Casey Demons Dunstan Munro Van Rooyen Bedford Tomlinson White Baldi

Northern Bullants Mackie Velissaris Murphy King

Statistics 

Oskar Baker 1 behind 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 63 dream team points
Ryan Baldi 1 behind 10 kicks 10 handballs 20 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 69 dream team points
Toby Bedford 3 goals 1 behinds 9 kicks 7 handballs 16 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 86 dream team points
Jake Bowey 18 kicks 8 handballs 26 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 94 dream team points
Mitch Brown 3 goals 8 kicks 5 handballs 13 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 79 dream team points
Matt Buntine 9 kicks 5 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 50 dream team points
Kade Chandler 2 goals 1 behind 9 kicks 8 handballs 17 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 77 dream team points
Luke Dunstan 2 goals 2 behinds 18 kicks 23 handballs 41 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 135 dream team points
Corey Ellison 10 kicks 5 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 57 dream team points
Blake Howes 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 52 dream team points
Bailey Laurie 1 goal 6 kicks 13 handballs 19 disposals 6 marks 1 tackles 70 dream team points
Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 goal 3 kicks 2 handballs 5 disposals 3 marks 25 dream team points
James Munro 14 kicks 15 handballs 29 disposals 4 marks 6 tackles 107 dream team points
Aiden Quigley 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 44 dream team points
Miles Shepherd 7 kicks 4 handballs 11 disposals 4 marks 41 dream team points
Joel Smith 1 behind 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 41 dream team points
Josh Smith 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 24 hit outs 74 dream team points
Adam Tomlinson 19 kicks 10 handballs 29 disposals 11 marks 110 dream team points
Daniel Turner 1 behind 15 kicks 6 handballs 21 disposals 8  marks 82 dream team points
Ryan Valentine 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 8 hit outs 40 dream team points
Jacob Van Rooyen 5 goals 8 kicks 4 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 7 hit outs 68 dream team points
Mitch White 1 goals 3 behinds 10 kicks 19 handballs 20 disposals 3 marks 69 dream team points
Taj Woewodin 9 kicks 5 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 61 dream team points

[Superunknown 3,311]

Pity about the bye next week - another solid JVR game could have been a good lead in for Carlton - NDAF - never debut against filth

[Demonstone 19,084]

Just now, Mr Steve said:

Not sure how to judge VFL form but boy oh boy our future looks bright with some of the young kids coming though.

It was the top team belting the bottom team but there was plenty to be pleased about for Demon fans.

[Jibroni 4,037]

Some good selection headaches for next week.

Great performance by JVR but the occasion of next week might be too big to debut him just yet.

[mo64 5,209]

I don't get this argument that playing against the Pies in front of a big crowd is not the time to debut JVR. We are bringing him in with the full intention that he will be part of our finals campaign. Some players thrive in the big occasions, some don't. JVR would only have to perform 20% better than Weid last night and it makes our team better. The one thing that JVR shows is that he is a competitor.

[Ollie fan 2,119]

For goodness’ sake! This is the twos! And against the bottom team!

Whenever we have tried Bedford or Chandler or even Dunstan in the firsts they have struggled. I hope as much as anyone that JVR will become a good player but at the moment, he is a boy and playing him against men would be a disaster.