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8 minutes ago, adonski said:

Give me Trac, Oliver and Gawn and I'd give the top 4 a fair shake as coach 

Agree. 

Goody wouldn’t make the top 8 of current AFL coaches IMO. 

most people here plus some board members wanted him sacked pre R1 2021. He wins a flag, with an amazing list, one of the worlds greatest fitness guru’s, an assistant who should already be a senior coach, and suddenly his position is locked in for years. Doesn’t make sense to me. 

We should really capitalise on Yze missing out on the Ess job, by locking him into a sucession plan. Was interesting that Trac emphasised his appreciation for Yze’s coaching efforts well above anyone else in his runners up B&F speech. 
 

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We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

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20 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Here's a recent one from this year...

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Putting up a graphic of the B&F, is that the best you’ve got ?

Strange argument, don’t all clubs have B&F’s ? , even Wooden spooners.

No correlation with the eventual outcome  of a teams season.

Noting your numerous comments in other topics, you seem very content to sit on the laurels of 2021.

If everyone had that attitude it will be another long wait of 57 years.

 

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Then 21 for Grundy

This would be an excellent outcome, turning Bedford and 32 into Grundy. And it is something that senlems reasonable too, depending how much of his cap we take on.

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15 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Are you saying Riv is leaving too? What kind of haunted house is it that they live in?

Haha yep, clearly rent is too high.  MFC better get onto the landlord!!

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21 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Agree. 

Goody wouldn’t make the top 8 of current AFL coaches IMO. 

most people here plus some board members wanted him sacked pre R1 2021. He wins a flag, with an amazing list, one of the worlds greatest fitness guru’s, an assistant who should already be a senior coach, and suddenly his position is locked in for years. Doesn’t make sense to me. 

We should really capitalise on Yze missing out on the Ess job, by locking him into a sucession plan. Was interesting that Trac emphasised his appreciation for Yze’s coaching efforts well above anyone else in his runners up B&F speech. 
 

This is rubbish. 

A bunch of loud angry people here wanted him gone. 

And it's pretty clear that those people are reactive and not analytical, with the only common detraction from Goodwin being that he doesn't throw players around into random positions as a "plan B", which is some kind of weird 80s nostalgia because it simply doesn't happen at any club.

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Well that is a blow. Not a huge blow but a blow none the less he was behind Kossie, Spargo and Chandler so I guess he was 4th in line so maybe not many opportunities but he definitely has talent and plenty of speed. Good get by GWS.

Surprised to see him go not Hunt though he's done was never going to improve the team probably never should have said happy to see him go but I think his time is up. Good luck to both.

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15 minutes ago, deanox said:

This is rubbish. 

A bunch of loud angry people here wanted him gone. 

And it's pretty clear that those people are reactive and not analytical, with the only common detraction from Goodwin being that he doesn't throw players around into random positions as a "plan B", which is some kind of weird 80s nostalgia because it simply doesn't happen at any club.

I want him coach for life. He's won us a premiership that I never thought I would see so I am forever grateful to Goodwin and the 22 players that won us the premiership in 2021.  

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21 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I want him coach for life. He's won us a premiership that I never thought I would see so I am forever grateful to Goodwin and the 22 players that won us the premiership in 2021.  

His life or yours? 🤣

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1 hour ago, Abyssal said:

2021,    
So last year man

2022, more like

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FMD. Anyone would think this was Bigfooty and you were an opposition supporter coming in to troll.

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1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

If I had to pick one of Bedford and Chandler to keep, I'd be keeping Bedford.

However, I don't think either of them have been that good so far. I don't think we under-played him, as I don't think his form ever really warranted more games. So if GWS have convinced him he's going to get more games up there, so be it. All the best to him.

This is basically where I sit with Toby.

I'm not sure Bedford or Chandler are medium term AFL footballers.

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17 minutes ago, deanox said:

His life or yours? 🤣

My life he can retire when I'm dead.

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1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

It’s a disappointing result for mine, but one I completely understand. You can’t continue to not reward players. He’s certainly good enough to play senior footy and yet we gave him a 7 week run as a sub with 10 active minutes on the field. 
Deserves better.

I would rather keep him than Melksham for another year, but I understand these aren’t really the choices we make. 

I know there was a report we'd tabled a three year deal, but I wouldn't be surprised if we pushed him.

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1 hour ago, 1964_2 said:

Agree. 

Goody wouldn’t make the top 8 of current AFL coaches IMO. 

most people here plus some board members wanted him sacked pre R1 2021. He wins a flag, with an amazing list, one of the worlds greatest fitness guru’s, an assistant who should already be a senior coach, and suddenly his position is locked in for years. Doesn’t make sense to me. 

We should really capitalise on Yze missing out on the Ess job, by locking him into a sucession plan. Was interesting that Trac emphasised his appreciation for Yze’s coaching efforts well above anyone else in his runners up B&F speech. 

You are quite comfortably one of the worst posters on Demonland. Congratulations, Big Brain.

Let's lock in an untried senior assistant to take over from our 2021 premiership coach. 

This sort of nonsense belongs on Facebook. 

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1 hour ago, Abyssal said:

Putting up a graphic of the B&F, is that the best you’ve got ?

Strange argument, don’t all clubs have B&F’s ? , even Wooden spooners.

No correlation with the eventual outcome  of a teams season.

Noting your numerous comments in other topics, you seem very content to sit on the laurels of 2021.

If everyone had that attitude it will be another long wait of 57 years.

 

And you're not far behind, Abysmal. 

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2 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Agree. 

Goody wouldn’t make the top 8 of current AFL coaches IMO. 

most people here plus some board members wanted him sacked pre R1 2021. He wins a flag, with an amazing list, one of the worlds greatest fitness guru’s, an assistant who should already be a senior coach, and suddenly his position is locked in for years. Doesn’t make sense to me. 

We should really capitalise on Yze missing out on the Ess job, by locking him into a sucession plan. Was interesting that Trac emphasised his appreciation for Yze’s coaching efforts well above anyone else in his runners up B&F speech. 
 

You are a fool. All he did was win a flag? Remember the Saints with their great list and Ross Lyon and others could not get it done. Stick the journey and Goody will deliver us at least one more flag. You know Yze was our midfield coach this year too yeah? You can’t credit him with helping us win the flag and then ignore that he was part of our coaching team this year too

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On 9/30/2022 at 9:03 AM, layzie said:

Gut feeling but I think we need to keep Toby now. Keen to see him with another pre-season under his belt. 

Absolutely. Internal Club development and fault mitigation is urgently required across the 'training' season - otherwise we are not doing justice to his footballing career and another club may well see it as an 'easy fix' - striving to get him onboard for raw talent up forward. He is fast, he knows how to kick 'em; he links well but is restricted, mainly by two factors: taking possession of the ball and physical presence. Yze is the man to correct these limitations. 

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3 hours ago, DubDee said:

We should really capitalise on Yze missing out on the Ess job, by locking him into a sucession plan. Was interesting that Trac emphasised his appreciation for Yze’s coaching efforts well above anyone else in his runners up B&F speech. 

Excellent player with unique skills. Better than SG as a skilling coach, in my opinion.

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