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2 hours ago, Star of the 80s said:

I had the pleasure of attending the game on Thursday night down at Geelong. I sat amongst the Geelong crowd in the Brownlow Stand.  I had a group of guys sitting next to me who had flown over from WA to watch the game. One guy was a Freo supporter but was wearing a Dees cap and barracking for Melbourne as we are his second favourite team. Anyway...now for the changes: 

Out: Clarry (inj), Salem, Bowey, Spargo, Fritsch, Bedford and BBB (all omitted)

In: Dunstan, Hunt, Rivers, Laurie, Weideman, van Rooyen and Brown

That's not going to happen.

Goodwin needs a coaching move not a selection slaughter.

BTW the elephant in the room is Kossi..he's a luxury apparently not expected to get it 10 times.

Running really quickly/ predictably at the full back kicking in is a waste energy

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8 minutes ago, IRW said:

That's not going to happen.

Goodwin needs a coaching move not a selection slaughter.

BTW the elephant in the room is Kossi..he's a luxury apparently not expected to get it 10 times.

Running really quickly/ predictably at the full back kicking in is a waste energy

Definitely needs to be getting it more.

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10 hours ago, picket fence said:

Weideman has had plenty of chances and is not the answer. J V R IS the future and his time is now. PLAY him this week

100% .... get him in.

We have no mobile forward who can drift across packs taking contested marks or just taking contested marks in general under heat aside from the occasional cameo from Fritsch.  Apart from the last kick coming inside 50 this is probably one of the most important components that helps retain the ball inside 50 for longer & putting a winning score up.

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59 minutes ago, IRW said:

That's not going to happen.

Goodwin needs a coaching move not a selection slaughter.

BTW the elephant in the room is Kossi..he's a luxury apparently not expected to get it 10 times.

Running really quickly/ predictably at the full back kicking in is a waste energy

We have a herd of elephants - Kozzie, Fritsch, BBB and Salem.

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5 hours ago, IRW said:

That's not going to happen.

Goodwin needs a coaching move not a selection slaughter.

BTW the elephant in the room is Kossi..he's a luxury apparently not expected to get it 10 times.

Running really quickly/ predictably at the full back kicking in is a waste energy

You might be right that Goodwin hasn’t got the balls to make that many changes. But lets look at the facts:

- We have won 2 of our last 6 games;

- We played one good quarter of football in the games against Freo (2nd Qtr), Swans (1st Qtr), Coll (1st Qtr) and Geelong ok in first half.

- Our forward has been ineffective... our mid field when put under a lot of pressure just bomb the ball forward and don’t/can’t look for options leading to lots of easy intercept marks

- We have been too one dimensional playing the same old game plan from last year and the good sides have worked us out

- Goodwin keeps playing the same “method” and “team” making very few changes during games

- A number players are playing selfish football and looking after their own interests (I.e. Fritsch not passing the ball to Petracca and Langdon, etc and attempting to kick the goal himself instead of passing the ball himself) - this is why Fritsch needs to be dropped

- Salem’s form since returning from injury has been sub standard

- Spargo backing out of a contest when a Geelong player was coming straight at him in a pack that led to a Geelong goal

- Sparrow jumping out of the way instead of continuing to chase his Geelong opponent that led to another Geelong goal

- Goodwin talks about rewarding good form of players in the VFL. Now is the time to shake up this team and play guys who are playing well and with confidence at Casey. 

- Despite low possessions Kossie was one of better players against the Cats and was prepared to throw his weight around and kicked a much needed goal in the last qtr.

Btw I have picked like for like players in my 7 changes who I think would been more energy to the team and are “team” first players. 

Enough said!!!

 

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At what point do we want to start our run? Both Pies and and Cats look to have started there’s a little early. Freo have looked a little shakeup it but like us last year, just win ugly. 
 

Need to beat Port and Doggies for staters and then go 3-1 or better against Carlton , Freo, Filth and then the Lions. 
 

MFCSS is telling me (and I’m doing my best not to listen) that we will go 3-3 or worse. 5-1 will secure top 2 IMHO

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In  JVR  Laurie Chandler 

Out  Bedford,  spargo, oliver

We need more goals

19 goals between them in the last 3 vfl games for casey and JVR missed one of those games.

A double debut for 2 of our first round selections from last two years is what I would like to see

 

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3 minutes ago, Paulo said:

In  JVR  Laurie Chandler 

Out  Bedford,  spargo, oliver

 

 

3 minutes ago, Paulo said:

In  JVR  Laurie Chandler 

Out  Bedford,  spargo, oliver

 

AGREE

 

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5 hours ago, IRW said:

That's not going to happen.

Goodwin needs a coaching move not a selection slaughter.

BTW the elephant in the room is Kossi..he's a luxury apparently not expected to get it 10 times.

Running really quickly/ predictably at the full back kicking in is a waste energy

Haven't seen him in the centre for ages, worth a try?

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7 minutes ago, Paulo said:

In  JVR  Laurie Chandler 

Out  Bedford,  spargo, oliver

 

I want Dunstan in to replace Clarry

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It's going to be a tough game. Port are playing some good football and every game is a final to them and we will be without Clarry who has starred this year.

In: Dunstan, Weideman (last chance), Laurie

Out: Oliver, Bedford, Spargo.

Laurie was brilliant in the 2's so that should get him in and Spargo has just been traveling needs to freshen up.

B: Lever, May, Hibberd

HB: Brayshaw, Petty, Salem

C: Langdon, Petracca, Jordon

HF: Laurie, Weideman, Neal-Bullen

F: Fritsch, B.Brown, Pickett

FOLL: Gawn, Harmes, Viney

IC: Bowey, Sparow, Dunstan, Jackson

SUB: Chandler

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Imo it is time for Bailey Laurie and Jacob van Rooyen to debut for the club. Both were fantastic v Geelong in the VFL on Friday night and they both should (imo) play against Port Adelaide next week.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Star of the 80s said:

You might be right that Goodwin hasn’t got the balls to make that many changes. But lets look at the facts:

- We have won 2 of our last 6 games;

- We played one good quarter of football in the games against Freo (2nd Qtr), Swans (1st Qtr), Coll (1st Qtr) and Geelong ok in first half.

- Our forward has been ineffective... our mid field when put under a lot of pressure just bomb the ball forward and don’t/can’t look for options leading to lots of easy intercept marks

- We have been too one dimensional playing the same old game plan from last year and the good sides have worked us out

- Goodwin keeps playing the same “method” and “team” making very few changes during games

- A number players are playing selfish football and looking after their own interests (I.e. Fritsch not passing the ball to Petracca and Langdon, etc and attempting to kick the goal himself instead of passing the ball himself) - this is why Fritsch needs to be dropped

- Salem’s form since returning from injury has been sub standard

- Spargo backing out of a contest when a Geelong player was coming straight at him in a pack that led to a Geelong goal

- Sparrow jumping out of the way instead of continuing to chase his Geelong opponent that led to another Geelong goal

- Goodwin talks about rewarding good form of players in the VFL. Now is the time to shake up this team and play guys who are playing well and with confidence at Casey. 

- Despite low possessions Kossie was one of better players against the Cats and was prepared to throw his weight around and kicked a much needed goal in the last qtr.

Btw I have picked like for like players in my 7 changes who I think would been more energy to the team and are “team” first players. 

Enough said!!!

 

It's still too many  changes on top of Clarrie out for a start ;the reasoning is almost irrelevant.

Goodwins not for changing;  some might say that's why he isn't a super coach.

Kossie does what Kossie does,but he's a luxury who doesn't position himself well enough to maximise his talents. 

He still needs to learn his game rather than celebrating his successes.

Salem will come good ,it won't happen any quicker in the twos.

Spargo still has the best footy brain in the forward half...its seriously lacking with the others.

Max will be better next week.

Swap Van Rooyen for Raggedy Anne Brown by all means and see if Fritsch has better simpatico with him.

The only way this season will work out now( it's obviously about 10 games too late) is to bite the bullet and stick with the core of last year's team and make changes for the longer term with fingers crossed.......

.....Or get Bluey officially on board in the team selection process .

I always like his idea of Cale Morton for captain back in the Demonology days.

Left field thinking  aka retiring to Queenscliff as opposed to Portsea

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7 hours ago, CYB said:

At what point do we want to start our run? Both Pies and and Cats look to have started there’s a little early. Freo have looked a little shakeup it but like us last year, just win ugly. 
 

Need to beat Port and Doggies for staters and then go 3-1 or better against Carlton , Freo, Filth and then the Lions. 
 

MFCSS is telling me (and I’m doing my best not to listen) that we will go 3-3 or worse. 5-1 will secure top 2 IMHO

Our run finished after 10 straight wins CYB.  We've only beaten 1 top four team  out of 4 matches since we beat the Saints during that run in Rnd 8.  That 25% hit rate against top eight teams from here would only see us winning 3 out of the next 6.

If the alarm bells isn"t warming up and starting to ting a ling a little right now inside Goody's & the FD's heads it should be.

We have a chance to right the ship but some serious changes/work needed on eveything forward of center before the match against Port if we're to make the top four.  As i've said since we lost Macca, you just can't/won't win many matches at this level defending 8 or 9 goals.

We have 9 days to fix it IMV or we'll probably end up outside the top four and/or at best playing an 'away' Qualifying final in Sydney, Brisbane or the Cattery.

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Don’t think we want to play away at that stink hole at KP. Not unless we get seriously good umpires.

they play their ground better than we do

i hope we were still loading though I doubt it

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9 hours ago, Larry, Moe or Curly said:

I want Dunstan in to replace Clarry

I don't.

Have a look at the Casey game v Geelong. Dunstan's kicking was atrocious. It's not like he'll be under less pressure at AFL level and I don't think I could cope with all the turnovers. I'd bring in Laurie to take on Harmes' role and Harmes to spend more time in the middle. Harmes is in good midfield form (provided he stops the excruciating fend-offs).

Other ins for consideration:

JVR - he had a great game v Geelong and I'd like to see him get one AFL game this year to give him a taste and reward his improvement. This game might be that one opportunity. Replace Bedford - I like the concept of our mosquito fleet, pressure forward set-up, but it's not working at the moment.

Hunt - Another who played well for Casey and IMO, did enough to replace Bowey, who's wilting a bit. Rivers is another option here.

In: Laurie, JVR, Hunt

Out: Bedford, Oliver, Bowey

Sub: Chandler, Rivers or Bowey

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Just a thought - Gus into the middle to replace Clarry. Rivers in to back fill half back. Some merit in the “mass changes” mooted in the thread. However, do not think selection carnage is the way to go - one or two would be good to make a statement - and yes JVR or Laurie or both might make the point. 

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17 minutes ago, Call Me What You Will said:

Just a thought - Gus into the middle to replace Clarry. Rivers in to back fill half back. 

Agree.

Also, there were a few contests squibbed Thursday night. I'd make an example of one or two guys. Bowey, Bedford among others.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mellie said:

I don't.

Have a look at the Casey game v Geelong. Dunstan's kicking was atrocious. It's not like he'll be under less pressure at AFL level and I don't think I could cope with all the turnovers.

Unfortunately true. That is why Saints wouldn't play him, according to my Saints' mate. 

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3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Unfortunately true. That is why Saints wouldn't play him, according to my Saints' mate. 

However his handball is very good get him to find closer targets he is a ball magnet and pretty tough as well. If Clayton doesn’t play Dunstan has to or medi-sub if Clayton plays. No good having a fire axe if you are to scared to break the glass.!!!

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