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7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Harmes now looking elsewhere.

Possibly Essendon.

I'd be sad to see Harmes leave.

By the looks of things we will be shedding a fair amount of salary during this Trade Period? 

Does anyone have an idea on the value of contracts that Jackson, Hunt, Bedford and Harmes would add up to? I assume they'd equate to over the $1 - 1.2M mark which begs the question who are we bringing in other than Grundy? Or are we looking to make space for a couple of contract renewals? 

 

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4 minutes ago, gregdemon said:

Harmes nearly left 2 years ago but time ran out to do trade. Cracks the sads when not playing in midfield  Was furious when Viney came back from injury last year and he went back again.  yes you will not believe me  but I know someone.    Thanks for your service Harmesy  see ya

Sounds exactly like Harmesy. 

One bloke I won't miss one bit especially his wannabe don't argues. 

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6 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Brayshaw already started to. Harmes was spending more and more time wing and half forward once Gus moved midfield. 

So we go back to what didn’t work in 2018 with slow, on way running mids, and replace Gus/Harmes with JJ on the wing? Then replace our only midfield depth with what exactly?

I don’t like this at all.

Need an upgrade in if Harmes is out. 

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Signed till 2024.

Let me say this loud and clear... Harmes is NOT going to that messed up sorry excuse for a club in a gazillion years!!

The druggies may have approached but i'm backing him in to stay put.

There is no current player that has more red & blue running in their veins than this loyal premiership minion.

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31 minutes ago, mo64 said:

TT was clearly out of sorts at North this year. The form he showed in the 2nd half of 2021 was outstanding. He's a perfect fit for us.

If Harmes has been told that he can look elsewhere, I hope that means that we have TT in our sights.

Is there any actual media speculation about Harmes yet that I’ve missed or is this just purely a murmur on DL?

Edit: Mitch Cleary come on down

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24 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Harmes now looking elsewhere.

Possibly Essendon.

Is it 1st April? Is this a joke. He’s a heart and soul type. Gives the grunt work behind Clarry, Trac and Viney.  Also one of the players who can actually tag, like he did v Neale in round 23. Noting Goody didn’t use him tag Neale in the finals. 

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11 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Brayshaw already started to. Harmes was spending more and more time wing and half forward once Gus moved midfield. 

Harmes out of major mid rotations and Gus in (other than the first couple of 'surprise packet' matches post his contract which were initially very effective, then reasonably effective, then finally not effective at all) was one of the reasons we didn't end the 2nd half of 2022 very well IMV.

We lacked the extra drive and breaking more tackles, getting the ball i50 with quick exits.  Doing so gives forwards a few more looks to convert.

Goodwin & the FD need to seriously review this set up.  Gus played his best most impactful footy (in terms of benefit to the team) in 2021 as a mostly wing/hf.

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9 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Signed till 2024.

Let me say this loud and clear... Harmes is NOT going to that messed up sorry excuse for a club in a gazillion years!!

The druggies may have approached but i'm backing him in to stay put.

There is no current player that has more red & blue running in their veins than this loyal premiership minion.

Agreed. Harmesy. 
“There is no current player that has more red & blue running in their veins than this loyal premiership minion”.

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Harmes wants to play midfield and doesn’t like playing elsewhere. Similar to Brayshaw EXCEPT that Angus can play anywhere and excel whereas James just doesn’t excel anywhere other than in the middle. I have also heard he does not cope well when not in the middle either. 

that isn’t a condemnation of a solid Demon and someone who will always have a place in shared memory of our drought breaking flag.

If this does happen, this is how you get younger players through the team which was a large criticism from some.

I won’t like to see him go but if the deal is right - this is what good teams do.

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1 minute ago, rpfc said:

Harmes wants to play midfield and doesn’t like playing elsewhere. Similar to Brayshaw EXCEPT that Angus can play anywhere and excel whereas James just doesn’t excel anywhere other than in the middle. I have also heard he does not cope well when not in the middle either. 

that isn’t a condemnation of a solid Demon and someone who will always have a place in shared memory of our drought breaking flag.

If this does happen, this is how you get younger players through the team which was a large criticism from some.

I won’t like to see him go but if the deal is right - this is what good teams do.

Yep. There is Casey Talent that needs Senior exposure and experience. 
That said i will always have a special place for Harmesy 

That Beautiful spearing pass to Fritta after he took the ball in his fingertips….

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Dees need to be smarter. MFC caught again 

By go home factor (LJ)🤮

By free agency (Hunt) 🤮

By a I-need-a-fair-go departure (Bedford) 🤮

Grundy is a roulette spin that is a costly $600k over 5 years as a “backup” 🧐🧐🧐

big test for ex recruiter Tim Lamb.
 

Josh Mahoney was very strong and I had confidence in his recruiting and bargaining to win the trades for Hibbo, Melksham, May, Lever, Langdon & Brown. 

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13 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dees need to be smarter. MFC caught again 

By go home factor (LJ)🤮

By free agency (Hunt) 🤮

By a I-need-a-fair-go departure (Bedford) 🤮

Grundy is a roulette spin that is a costly $600k over 5 years as a “backup” 🧐🧐🧐

big test for ex recruiter Tim Lamb.
 

Josh Mahoney was very strong and I had confidence in his recruiting and bargaining to win the trades for Hibbo, Melksham, May, Lever, Langdon & Brown. 

You do realise this was mostly all Tim Lamb work considering he was/is still our national recruiting manager who facilitated these deals during this period.

Josh Mahoney was just a spokesperson in the media and general footy manager in the same role as what Alan Richardson. 

All credit needs to go to Tim Lamb and Jason Taylor for building our premiership team.

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6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dees need to be smarter. MFC caught again 

By go home factor (LJ)🤮

By free agency (Hunt) 🤮

By a I-need-a-fair-go departure (Bedford) 🤮

Grundy is a roulette spin that is a costly $600k over 5 years as a “backup” 🧐🧐🧐

big test for ex recruiter Tim Lamb.
 

Josh Mahoney was very strong and I had confidence in his recruiting and bargaining to win the trades for Hibbo, Melksham, May, Lever, Langdon & Brown. 

Yep - caught with a premiership cup in our hands and the window open for at least another five years. Must be much smarter that that. 

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Harmes has always struck me as a bit of a prima donna, even if he did grow up supporting the dees.

Interesting period coming up if we lose Tomlinson, Hunt, Bedford & Harmes. That’s 4 blokes from the top 24. Decent hit to depth

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1 hour ago, gregdemon said:

Harmes nearly left 2 years ago but time ran out to do trade. Cracks the sads when not playing in midfield  Was furious when Viney came back from injury last year and he went back again.  yes you will not believe me  but I know someone.    Thanks for your service Harmesy  see ya

Didn't see anybody else kick a perfect pass at a critical point to Fritch in a Grand Final, bear in mind his namesake did something similar, albeit with his hand,in a GF as well.

Just thought cold blooded people might think he might be a keeper...

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Wouldnt be happy with Harmes going - Gives his all every time, tags better than anyone else on our list and way harder than those being suggested as his replacement.

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Out of curiosity, who are the depth/youth at Casey gunning for his spot? 

Ive been vocal about how we didn't rotate the squad and blood new players, but young midfield depth is not really something we have. You could make an argument for Laurie, but he's not nearly as versatile or strong as Harmes on the ground or in the air...Bedford was one but is now gone. Who's the one to take his spot? Jordon could but not very dynamic and that creates a need for another winger - Howes hasn't shown much...

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1 minute ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Wouldnt be happy with Harmes going - Gives his all every time, tags better than anyone else on our list and way harder than those being suggested as his replacement.

We hardly use him as a tagger so we stupidly ignore his best position so doesn’t surprise me that he is looking/being pushed elsewhere.

 

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5 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Out of curiosity, who are the depth/youth at Casey gunning for his spot? 

Ive been vocal about how we didn't rotate the squad and blood new players, but young midfield depth is not really something we have. You could make an argument for Laurie, but he's not nearly as versatile or strong as Harmes on the ground or in the air...Bedford was one but is now gone. Who's the one to take his spot? Jordon could but not very dynamic and that creates a need for another winger - Howes hasn't shown much...

Chandler will be first in line for that spot.  also but i see Sparrow getting more minutes in that role now

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7 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Out of curiosity, who are the depth/youth at Casey gunning for his spot? 

Ive been vocal about how we didn't rotate the squad and blood new players, but young midfield depth is not really something we have. You could make an argument for Laurie, but he's not nearly as versatile or strong as Harmes on the ground or in the air...Bedford was one but is now gone. Who's the one to take his spot? Jordon could but not very dynamic and that creates a need for another winger - Howes hasn't shown much...

Jordon straight back in

Perhaps Lachie Hunter on the way too?

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8 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

We hardly use him as a tagger so we stupidly ignore his best position so doesn’t surprise me that he is looking/being pushed elsewhere.

 

And when we go left of field with a 2nd half Tom Sparrow tag to "surprise", their midfield gun gets off the chain.

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1 minute ago, John Demonic said:

And when we go left of field with a 2nd half Tom Sparrow tag to "surprise", their midfield gun gets off the chain.

I don’t get that we don’t tag. I would each week. Doesn’t have to be a hard tag but FFS Harmes has done very good jobs on the best, use him each week to nullify their best. Seems dumb not to.

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Just confirming that with Bedford, Harmes, Hunt, and Hunter becoming public knowledge in the last 12-24 hours, as well as Jackson and Grundy, we're now sufficiently active in the trade period for some pundits on Demonland?

 

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