Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Trade and Free Agency rumours


Nascent

Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, BigBadBustling said:

Do we need him, and the salary that goes with it? I think Blake Howes will start 2023 Rnd1 as the other wingman, and stay there all year

Every time I see Blake, he reminds me of Flower.  At this stage Tom, but if he could get to 25% of Robbie I'd be rapt!

He is a beautiful mover I am very confident he'll be a regular in a season or so.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, MoeSyzlak said:

Not sure what this is based on to be honest. He’s played 7 games for Casey in 22. He’s averaging less that 14 disposals per game and kicked 3 goals. Hasn’t had one game over 20 possessions. 
 

That’s not screaming that he’s ready for the next level to me.


 

 

Fair enough, it's a big call, but I'm running with it, happy for you to hold it to me.

What was Bowey's VFL record like before he got picked? I wonder what his stats would look like had he had the same injury issues as Howes

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

44 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

Fair enough, it's a big call, but I'm running with it, happy for you to hold it to me.

What was Bowey's VFL record like before he got picked? I wonder what his stats would look like had he had the same injury issues as Howes

Howes will be ok and much better injury free and after another pre season.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, BigBadBustling said:

Fair enough, it's a big call, but I'm running with it, happy for you to hold it to me.

What was Bowey's VFL record like before he got picked? I wonder what his stats would look like had he had the same injury issues as Howes

Pre injury Howes wasn't looking that great...he was ok at times.

Ofter he looked/looks lost out on the park and doesn't appear a natural reader of the play which you have to be to play a wing.

If we can get Amon I would be all in. We have a window of opportunity over the next 2 to 3 years and we need to take it.

Howes may or may not come on...time will tell.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Rankine for pick 5 but there are many who say we should be happy with 10,14 and a reserve grade ruck for Jackson.

Did Rankine have a good 2021/22. Can recall when he burst on the scene but I haven't followed GCS for the last two years

No one said they would be "happy" with 10, 14 and a secondary ruck for Jackson. We'd all be happy with higher picks/players

Some (myself included) speculated on what might eventuate given what picks and potential player swaps Freo might complete. They currently don't have any picks in the top 10, maybe they will by the end of trading. All the better if so

We can hold our breath until we're blue in the face, but we cannot demand something Freo don't have and may not have

Though they are completely different type of players, Rankine is every bit as valuable to the right club as Jackson would be for Freo, not that one is better than the other.

Edited by Stiff Arm
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Stiff Arm said:

No one said they would be "happy" with 10, 14 and a secondary ruck for Jackson. We'd all be happy with higher picks/players

Some (myself included) speculated on what might eventuate given what picks and potential player swaps Freo might complete. They currently don't have any picks in the top 10, maybe they will by the end of trading. All the better if so

We can hold our breath until we're blue in the face, but we cannot demand something Freo don't have and may not have

Though they are completely different type of players, Rankine is every bit as valuable to the right club as Jackson would be for Freo. Not that one is better than the other.

If I was building a list from scratch I would put significantly more value on LJ than Rankine - so no, one is better than the other in my view and that one is LJ

 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Sydee said:

If I was building a list from scratch I would put significantly more value on LJ than Rankine - so no, one is better than the other in my view and that one is LJ

 

But no ones ever building a list from scratch.  When we drafted Kozzie people said we were crazy as he's just a forward pocket / pressure forward.  But he is incredibly important to our team / structure / system as he filled a need we are crying out for.

 

  • Like 1
  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


3 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

But no ones ever building a list from scratch.  When we drafted Kozzie people said we were crazy as he's just a forward pocket / pressure forward.  But he is incredibly important to our team / structure / system as he filled a need we are crying out for.

 

Kozzie wasn't drafted to a rebuilding side

Rankine is going to a club who are years away. I would rather Norf and Hawks list over the Crows.

  • Facepalm 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

But no ones ever building a list from scratch.  When we drafted Kozzie people said we were crazy as he's just a forward pocket / pressure forward.  But he is incredibly important to our team / structure / system as he filled a need we are crying out for.

 

I think that's obvious - recruitment is always about team needs

That's why assessing a players relative  value only makes sense using the hypothetical I mentioned

The question was which is the better / more valuable footballer - IMO it's LJ by a big margin. I don't really care if others disagree 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, Sydee said:

If I was building a list from scratch I would put significantly more value on LJ than Rankine - so no, one is better than the other in my view and that one is LJ

 

Adelaide are not building from scratch

Maybe they value Rankine for their needs more than a ruck. 

Regardless, they have pick 5 atm. Freo do not

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

With the rumour of rankine turning down 800k a year from GC what does that mean for our negotiations with Pickett who I’d argue is better, we certainly can’t  afford another player at that price.

Edited by Garbo
Link to comment
Share on other sites

50 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

We can hold our breath until we're blue in the face, but we cannot demand something Freo don't have and may not have

But they have a lot we would want.  Young, Serong, Chapman, Henry, Amiss to name a few plus their first rounder.

I know they don't want to deal those players but that could get the deal done so suggesting they "just can't" isn't right.  WCE sit in the wings.  PSD is an option for us.  They've rated Jackson very highly based on their reported offer to him.

I'd play hard ball.  WCE have pick 2.  Freo, it's in your hands.

  • Like 8
  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Garbo said:

With the rumour of rankine turning down 800k a year from GC what does that mean for our negotiations with Pickett who I’d argue is better, we certainly can’t  afford another player at that price.

Rankine seems like a nuffy. Kozzy seems very happy at the MFC. One small forward is not the same as the other.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Rankine for pick 5 but there are many who say we should be happy with 10,14 and a reserve grade ruck for Jackson.

Did Rankine have a good 2021/22. Can recall when he burst on the scene but I haven't followed GCS for the last two years

Rankine is currently discount Akermanis.

His upside could be actual Akermanis level, though.

One thing you can be certain of - Melbourne's pick 34, 41 and 52 will be crucial to any deal going through! :laugh:

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, Garbo said:

With the rumour of rankine turning down 800k a year from GC what does that mean for our negotiations with Pickett who I’d argue is better, we certainly can’t  afford another player at that price.

I would want at least $900,000 a year to play with the GC and i am 59. 
Rankine isn’t worth huge money yet. But GC are just GC (mostly harmless)

  • Haha 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

But they have a lot we would want.  Young, Serong, Chapman, Henry, Amiss to name a few plus their first rounder.

I know they don't want to deal those players but that could get the deal done so suggesting they "just can't" isn't right.  WCE sit in the wings.  PSD is an option for us.  They've rated Jackson very highly based on their reported offer to him.

I'd play hard ball.  WCE have pick 2.  Freo, it's in your hands.

Jeremy Cameron is a significantly better footballer than Jackson, and GWS only received what Geelong had to offer. There would have been other Vic clubs with better draft capital, but it's irrelevant once the player nominates his club of choice.

Edited by mo64
Link to comment
Share on other sites

EDMUND’S MEGA TRADE UPDATE ON TARANTO, JACKSON, GUNSTON, RIOLI AND MORE

“West Coast believe they’re still in the hunt for Luke, so we cannot rule out the Eagles.

“Fremantle are seen to be the frontrunner there, that might still be the case, but the Eagles maintain they’re still in the race for the WA-born ruckman.

“Luke Jackson’s gone, let’s just state that as fact.” 

 

Edited by Pink Freud
Link to comment
Share on other sites


22 minutes ago, Garbo said:

With the rumour of rankine turning down 800k a year from GC what does that mean for our negotiations with Pickett who I’d argue is better, we certainly can’t  afford another player at that price.

i thought it was gc17 have offered him ~600k and crom blew it out of the water with a $900k offer

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Jeremy Cameron is a significantly better footballer than Jackson, and GWS only received what Geelong had to offer. There would have been other Vic clubs with better draft capital, but it's irrelevant once the player nominates his club of choice.

Cameron was a RFA, Jackson isn't.  He can't choose his club.

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

50 minutes ago, Garbo said:

With the rumour of rankine turning down 800k a year from GC what does that mean for our negotiations with Pickett who I’d argue is better, we certainly can’t  afford another player at that price.

 

35 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Jeremy Cameron is a significantly better footballer than Jackson, and GWS only received what Geelong had to offer. There would have been other Vic clubs with better draft capital, but it's irrelevant once the player nominates his club of choice.

Not irrelevant, surely:  there is still a negotiation, and a price.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, —coach— said:

I went back out of interest to see what the difference is.

2018 he got 48 frees for (22 games, 2.18 per game)

2019  44 (22 games, 2 per game)

2020 6 (9 games, 0.66 per game)

2021 11 (13 games, 0.84 per game)

2022 11 (16 games, 0.68 per game)

Quite a different

I reckon 4 or 5 of those frees in 2021 were in the GF too!

 

 

.......if he got 4 or 5 frees in the 2022 Grand Final, I'd be very happy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 260

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...