NON-MFC: Round 10, 2022

[Jaded No More 57,630]

Can’t wait to smash these pretenders 

[Lord Travis 10,141]

Well neither of these teams will challenge this year. Defense wins premierships, and neither of these teams can defend against momentum to save themselves. Pray one of them finishes fourth so we get a free ride into the prelim.

[dazzledavey36 48,642]

It really is a pity we don't play them until round 22.

Taking advantage on their complete folding like deck chairs in the second half would be sweet to watch.

Edited May 20, 2022 by dazzledavey36

[Gawndy the Great 7,261]

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Newman gets caught by Franklin at full back, doesn't bother trying to dispose of it, drops it, play on.

Warner gets caught by Owies with little prior, drops it, holding the ball.

Would be infuriating to be a Swans supporter seeing that.

Although to be fair, they've had their chances and squandered too many of them.

Yep I’d lose my 💩if that was Melbourne playing. You pay that, as it should have been, It’s 3 points with about 3 mins to go and the Swans probably win it from there. 
 

Blues got away with it tonight.

[ElDiablo14 3,017]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It really is a pity we don't play them until round 22.

Taking advantage on their complete folding like deck chairs in the second half would be sweet to watch.

Wouldn't a comeback ala GF 2021 be so sweet?

Hahaha the long faces of the brown baggers in the 4th were priceless 😂😂

[Jaded No More 57,630]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It really is a pity we don't play them until round 22.

Taking advantage on their complete folding like deck chairs in the second half would be sweet to watch.

Yeah and fat chance they kick 9 goals in a quarter against us. If they don’t pile on a massive lead in the first half they can’t win. 

[titan_uranus 22,219]

8 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Can’t wait to smash these pretenders 

5 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Well neither of these teams will challenge this year. Defense wins premierships, and neither of these teams can defend against momentum to save themselves. Pray one of them finishes fourth so we get a free ride into the prelim.

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It really is a pity we don't play them until round 22.

Taking advantage on their complete folding like deck chairs in the second half would be sweet to watch.

Look, I think Carlton's gameplan is flawed too, but in all our losses last year our opponents went hell for leather and took us on through the middle. Carlton will do the same and have the talent to score against our backline.

The way to beat Carlton is not exactly hidden - breakeven in contested possession. They are like the Dogs and a bit like us in 2018 - their one-wood is the middle, and if they don't dominate in the middle they are capable of being opened up defensively.

[Willmoy1947 3,760]

Lovely to see all  those Carlton supporters still alive and hear the best booers in the comp.Thirty odd extra free kicks and they're still at it. 

Why can't we get umpires like that.Is it patented brown paper bags or just the way they address the Umpires."please sir, can I have some more"

[titan_uranus 22,219]

Just now, Jaded No More said:

Yeah and fat chance they kick 9 goals in a quarter against us. If they don’t pile on a massive lead in the first half they can’t win. 

Dogs play the same way and kicked 8 in a row against us in Round 1.

(just playing devil's advocate here)

[ElDiablo14 3,017]

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Look, I think Carlton's gameplan is flawed too, but in all our losses last year our opponents went hell for leather and took us on through the middle. Carlton will do the same and have the talent to score against our backline.

The way to beat Carlton is not exactly hidden - breakeven in contested possession. They are like the Dogs and a bit like us in 2018 - their one-wood is the middle, and if they don't dominate in the middle they are capable of being opened up defensively.

May Lever and Petty are a brick wall. Good Luck to Curnow and McKay against that!

I am pretty sure our Ruck dominance would also give us the edge in the midfield

[adonski 9,102]

They're a worse version of 2021 Dogs

[The heart beats true 16,019]

I don’t imagine Carlton’s inability to play 4 quarters is giving them a lot of faith. They’d never feel like they’ve done enough.

[Lord Travis 10,141]

Carlton are like us in 2018. All out attack. It’s exciting to watch, but incapable of winning a premiership. Until they learn to defend properly, they won’t challenge for a premiership. 

Blues are a clear level below us and Brisbane. Freo have lost form recently but defend well so have a gamestyle that will stand up better in finals.

[dazzledavey36 48,642]

6 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Look, I think Carlton's gameplan is flawed too, but in all our losses last year our opponents went hell for leather and took us on through the middle. Carlton will do the same and have the talent to score against our backline.

The way to beat Carlton is not exactly hidden - breakeven in contested possession. They are like the Dogs and a bit like us in 2018 - their one-wood is the middle, and if they don't dominate in the middle they are capable of being opened up defensively.

I just think their game plan is very similar to the Dogs of last year.

All gun and blazing but their defence is a lot to be desired.

If we are able to match them in the contested footy like Sydney did in the 2nd half then I'd back our troops to win

Their midfield really went to water once Sydney heaped pressure on them in the 2nd half.

[dazzledavey36 48,642]

1 minute ago, Lord Travis said:

Carlton are like us in 2018. All out attack. It’s exciting to watch, but incapable of winning a premiership. Until they learn to defend properly, they won’t challenge for a premiership. 

Blues are a clear level below us and Brisbane. Freo have lost form recently but defend well so have a gamestyle that will stand up better in finals.

Fremantle are the dark horse for me purely on their defence which is rated pretty much similar to us.

If they can get Fyfe back and playing string footy then sky's the limit with the dockers.

[ElDiablo14 3,017]

1 minute ago, Lord Travis said:

Carlton are like us in 2018. All out attack. It’s exciting to watch, but incapable of winning a premiership. Until they learn to defend properly, they won’t challenge for a premiership. 

Blues are a clear level below us and Brisbane. Freo have lost form recently but defend well so have a gamestyle that will stand up better in finals.

I believe the Dees were like 3rd or 2nd on the ladder that year around this time. Then we plateaud, finished 5th before the finals. 

Outplayed by a much experienced and complete team in the Weagles.

[Docs Demons 1,656]

Swans lost this. Blues didn't win it plus umpires helped Blues immensely. Some shocking NON decisions against swans and what about Cripps in the 2nd qtr i think. Arms out and mouthing off but no 50. Oh well I suppose different rules for the so called big names and teams!!!. All for respect to the umpires in general but they also  have to earn the respect. The game is going down hill in quick time.  

[layzie 28,490]

I agree this was more about the Swans and also think the umps helped them a lot. When they needed a holding the ball, they got it. 

This result sucks, I tipped Sydney and I'm really wanting a Carlton loss soon. I need it.

Edited May 20, 2022 by layzie
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[McQueen 17,862]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

I agree this was more about the Swans and also think the umps helped them a lot. Aheb they needed a holding tje ball, they got it. 

This result sucks, I tipped Sydney and I'm really wanting a Carlton loss soon. I need it.

^^same

just better spelling. 

[layzie 28,490]

4 minutes ago, McQueen said:

^^same

just better spelling. 

Yeah that was pretty awful I must say.

[Gawndy the Great 7,261]

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Look, I think Carlton's gameplan is flawed too, but in all our losses last year our opponents went hell for leather and took us on through the middle. Carlton will do the same and have the talent to score against our backline.

The way to beat Carlton is not exactly hidden - breakeven in contested possession. They are like the Dogs and a bit like us in 2018 - their one-wood is the middle, and if they don't dominate in the middle they are capable of being opened up defensively.

And one thing you can count on in finals is defensive pressure and a hugely contested performance from the Dees across all 4 quarters.

 

[DubDee 20,338]

2 hours ago, fr_ap said:

Anyone who thinks the umpires or Sydney have anything to do with this doesn't know what they're watching

I said it after our pre season loss and will say it again now - if you watch Carlton closely they have found a formula. Contested stuff off the chart - ride tackles as well as any team, serious serious front half pressure, killer key forwards - that's all obvious. But watch their contest stuff - they outnumber, they space well, and they've reached the tipping point good teams do where they have so much confidence in winning the contest they're taking risks while teammates are getting tackled. 

Intangible stuff is high too - a team in unison, working for each other, clearly in sync. 

3rd year I think under Andrew Russell - they've found the running power that takes a few years to build. 

Doing it ATM without their #1 ruck, Coleman medallist, and a host of others - there's serious depth there.

8-2 - not had the easiest draw - they absolutely have to be taken seriously. Anything less than a prelim is a failure for them.

Hope it's not against us (serious 2018 Richmond v Collingwood vibes) as they are genuinely the only team that could overpower us both in the midfield and particularly with Curnow, McKay and their honest worker small fwds. 

How they go in Finals is the only unknown - with Voss at the helm and the way they're playing I don't think anything will scare them.  They'll be there right to the very end.

Don't you just hate to see it 

Sure Carlton have improved from the bottom 6 side they have been for years but you are getting carried away imo. Aside from Weitering their defence is poor. O Mac would walk into that back line if fit. Their midfield is strong and the twin towers if fit are formidable but we are far superior and they hold no fear for me. 

i do rate Voss though and I like their pressure and game plan 

like my mates keep telling me - it’s ours to lose this year 😬

[TheWiz 692]

12 hours ago, Demonland said:

Who are you tipping this week?

Can the title of this thread be replaced as “Non-Narrm: Round 10, 2022”?

[Smokey 4,112]

Dunno about you guys but I’d love to play Carlton in the finals. They look good on paper now but the way they play a second half is just the opposite of what’s required in September. 

[Garbo 1,324]

Blues have quite the injury list atm if the can get there best 22 on the park they will be as dangerous as anyone else, I still think we are a level above everyone but I could just as easily see blues in a grand final vs us as anyone. Rounds 22 and 23 will be quite interesting, will anyone show there cards and go all out or will it be saved for the weeks after 

Edited May 20, 2022 by Garbo