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MFC Rebranding for Indigenous Round


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3 hours ago, rpfc said:

Great initiative. I know the reaction of some but hope they keep it to themselves.

Not my favourite of the alternative jumpers but watching that video explains why - it’s telling a pretty involved story of the club, the land, the G, and the links between all three. It’s going to be busy.

Why?

Don't you have a coping mechanism for dissenting views?

The design not up to recent standards. I've loved the past few efforts, but this one? Nah

As far as the name goes. Nope. We should always be the Melbourne Football Club.

The commentators will mostly just call us the Dees/Demons during the call anyway to save the embarrassment. Just like they did with Gary Hocking when he changed his name via deedpol to "whiskas"

 

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5 hours ago, DemonWA said:

Brilliant leadership from the club. Fantastic to see

 

Crazy to see so many people getting triggered on Facebook though!!

You're obviously new to Facebook 🤣

I really like the design, it's definitely busy and not sure how it will look in practice on the field but I love the actual design, the stars in the blue are great

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45 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Why?

Don't you have a coping mechanism for dissenting views?

The design not up to recent standards. I've loved the past few efforts, but this one? Nah

As far as the name goes. Nope. We should always be the Melbourne Football Club.

The commentators will mostly just call us the Dees/Demons during the call anyway to save the embarrassment. Just like they did with Gary Hocking when he changed his name via deedpol to "whiskas"

 

The main reason I would prefer you not bother comparing this to Garry Hocking changing his name is because it trivialises something that means more in the positive to some than it does to you in the negative.

You can call it precious, or call it manners, or whatever, but I just don’t see the need to make it known that you don’t like something that is meaningful to a group of Dees fans that haven’t been embraced in the past.

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59 minutes ago, rpfc said:

The main reason I would prefer you not bother comparing this to Garry *Hocking changing his name is because it trivialises something that means more in the positive to some than it does to you in the negative.

You can call it precious, or call it manners, or whatever, but I just don’t see the need to make it known that you don’t like something that is meaningful to a group of Dees fans that haven’t been embraced in the past.

Great point but I think it’s a group of people that haven’t been embraced in the past, not just Dees fans.

*Hocking did it for personal gain Ie $$$.

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I love the new Jumper! looks a beautiful design! honestly the one guernsey i buy each year is our indigenous strip! it's always beautiful and one thing our great club does really well is our respect and celebration for indigenous culture. 

I love the re-branding and hope that when we next re-brand we consider adopting at least some of these ideas full time. 

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3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I personally can’t see this happening. It would likely be dismissed on account of being seen as making light of a profoundly important issue. There’s a time and a place for sh*ts n giggles, and this isn’t one of them, imvho. 

I'm not sure that makes any sense at all.

I clearly said it would need to be checked off by the appropriate groups. That isn't sh*ts and giggles, that's respectful.

By adopting the name Narrm, we make it clear we are proud to be associated with this culture.

For our supporters to adopt this language and placename to describe themselves who be as a badge of honour and be promoting it outside of the official indigenous round, demonstrating its importance. It doesn't make light at all.

 

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12 hours ago, Wizard of Koz said:

 

Great song to have every game at some point

 

This is my go to youtube video to play loudly when I'm wasted and feeling particularly proud of our club.

I absolutely love the name change for the indigenous round and am STOKED that we are leading the way across the league with this initiative.

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7 hours ago, deanox said:

I'm not sure that makes any sense at all.

I clearly said it would need to be checked off by the appropriate groups. That isn't sh*ts and giggles, that's respectful.

By adopting the name Narrm, we make it clear we are proud to be associated with this culture.

For our supporters to adopt this language and placename to describe themselves who be as a badge of honour and be promoting it outside of the official indigenous round, demonstrating its importance. It doesn't make light at all.

 

If it wasn’t modelled on the Barmy Army chant, maybe so. It’s got that whole cheeky larrikin vibe going on. I’m guessing some may feel it doesn’t befit the occasion. 
Besides, I’m not saying it shouldn’t be adopted. I’m saying I can’t see it being ‘checked off’ by those whose feelings on this are of the most importance. 

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7 hours ago, deanox said:

By adopting the name Narrm, we make it clear we are proud to be associated with this culture.

For our supporters to adopt this language and placename to describe themselves who be as a badge of honour and be promoting it outside of the official indigenous round, demonstrating its importance. It doesn't make light at all.

 

This is true. And really well-put. But it’s not to what I refer. The Barmy Army chant is the issue here. 

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36 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

If it wasn’t modelled on the Barmy Army chant, maybe so. It’s got that whole cheeky larrikin vibe going on. I’m guessing some may feel it doesn’t befit the occasion. 
Besides, I’m not saying it shouldn’t be adopted. I’m saying I can’t see it being ‘checked off’ by those whose feelings on this are of the most importance. 

 

32 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

This is true. And really well-put. But it’s not to what I refer. The Barmy Army chant is the issue here. 

That's for clarifying WCW!

I guess I'm saying that by continuing to use the name in our chants it potentially has the same effect.

I can see the position that Barmy Army related chant might be an issue, and would completely respect that position. I'm not in a position to be able to judge or approve that so would be guided.

 

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32 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

Does anyone know if this can be used as our clash? I love our indigenous gurnseys, would like to understand if they can be something more ingrained through the season.

Great idea! If not this one, have an indigenous designed clash guernsey for keeps. 

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14 minutes ago, deanox said:

 

That's for clarifying WCW!

I guess I'm saying that by continuing to use the name in our chants it potentially has the same effect.

I can see the position that Barmy Army related chant might be an issue, and would completely respect that position. I'm not in a position to be able to judge or approve that so would be guided.

 

All good. How could I disagree with someone who has lil Alex as his avi? 😉

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15 hours ago, one_demon said:

I reckon all clubs will do this

I'm not sure they can. Clubs named after inner urban Melbourne suburbs, such as Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond are presumably a part of the same land as us and I imagine would also be part of Narrm. Perhaps interstate clubs and Geelong could do it should they choose. 

It's a great sign of how we're going that any of Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond etc could have got the jump on us and called themselves Narrm before us.

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5 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm not sure they can. Clubs named after inner urban Melbourne suburbs, such as Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond are presumably a part of the same land as us and I imagine would also be part of Narrm. Perhaps interstate clubs and Geelong could do it should they choose. 

It's a great sign of how we're going that any of Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond etc could have got the jump on us and called themselves Narrm before us.

Saints should be able to do it, as Moorabbin is part of Boonwurrung land. 

 

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12 hours ago, rpfc said:

The main reason I would prefer you not bother comparing this to Garry Hocking changing his name is because it trivialises something that means more in the positive to some than it does to you in the negative.

You can call it precious, or call it manners, or whatever, but I just don’t see the need to make it known that you don’t like something that is meaningful to a group of Dees fans that haven’t been embraced in the past.

We are ALL entitled to an opinion, and thankfully this site allows us to express it provided we don't go throwing abuse at each other.

I think the club (and League) is doing more than enough to recognize our indigenous people and don't think the name change is necessary. Am I getting worked up over it? Not at all, and certainly not as much as you are about someone expressing an opinion you don't like.

Please refrain from asking me to keep mine to myself from this point forward

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3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm not sure they can. Clubs named after inner urban Melbourne suburbs, such as Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond are presumably a part of the same land as us and I imagine would also be part of Narrm. Perhaps interstate clubs and Geelong could do it should they choose. 

They could use the Aboriginal name for Tiger, Magpie etc 

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