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It’s a Catch 22 situation. If he performs to a high standard, someone else will draft him in the first 40. If not, then he’s available if we want him.

Where’s the incentive to develop young players if other clubs gain from the fruits of our labour? 

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5 hours ago, The Third Eye said:

Where’s the incentive to develop young players if other clubs gain from the fruits of our labour? 

Because the AFL and it's competing clubs need to do way more to support junior football, and not just at the higher levels.

It is too easy to cop out and use the pandemic as an excuse, but participation is down, standard of play is down, volunteer numbers are down, and interest in the game from juniors is down. The AFL and the clubs need to give more back.

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13 hours ago, Darkhorse72 said:

Wasn't it top 20 last year, why would and when did that change?  Top 40 is pretty much the whole draft for most teams nowadays.

 

Yes, hence why the system is a rort..

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On 4/5/2022 at 3:34 PM, Action Jackson said:

Yeah agreed. Not sure why there should be any scaling for father son and academies?

You already have access to them, why also get it at a reduced cost than others would pay. Doesn't make sense.

Well said Action Jackson. 

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17 hours ago, poita said:

Because the AFL and it's competing clubs need to do way more to support junior football, and not just at the higher levels.

It is too easy to cop out and use the pandemic as an excuse, but participation is down, standard of play is down, volunteer numbers are down, and interest in the game from juniors is down. The AFL and the clubs need to give more back.

I think that was third eye's point.  Incentive to promote development.  Why bother if all the hard work goes elsewhere?

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Alan Jarrott, a competitive and nuggety type who played 91 games for Melbourne in the 80s after crossing from North Melbourne, was from Moyhu. 

The only other VFL/AFL recruit to hail from there was Hawthorn's John Hendrie, a forward who played in two premierships and who was more than a decent player.

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8 hours ago, monoccular said:

I think that was third eye's point.  Incentive to promote development.  Why bother if all the hard work goes elsewhere?

Yep our NGAs may get picked and we can also pick Academy players of other teams if we want them and they are available at our pick 

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PMBangers from https://central.rookieme.com/ answers a question about Finn on a draft thread from bigfooty.

 
PMBangers I’m liking what I see with Emile-Brennan at Dandy. I’ve seen him play a couple of times now, again yesterday and IMO he will be exciting clubs with his run off HB. I know it’s early but I can see him becom a rnd 1 selection. What are your thoughts?
Yeah he really caught my eye in Round 1 vs Eastern, I've made the Wanganeen-Milera comparison with his movement and kicking at short to medium distances, uses it really well by hand and is surprisingly comfortable with contact for a slim frame, in comparison to some of the other medium defender options in the draft frame he's looking pretty high up, especially if he can keep improving each week. I could see him going first round if he gets an opportunity in the midfield, but currently I think a guy like Conrad Williams provides a similar skill set and he's more proven over time.
 
 
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On 4/12/2022 at 8:59 AM, Demonstone said:

Alan Jarrott, a competitive and nuggety type who played 91 games for Melbourne in the 80s after crossing from North Melbourne, was from Moyhu. 

The only other VFL/AFL recruit to hail from there was Hawthorn's John Hendrie, a forward who played in two premierships and who was more than a decent player.

I'm from Moyhu.....unfortunately my footy credentials don't quite stack up against those  two! :)

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On 4/11/2022 at 9:20 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

The mighty Hoppers.

Yes Dazzle-got done by Greta last Saturday though. I occasionally do my morning exercise on the oval-for some reason early morning its always wet that time of day-guaranteed wet socks and feet! :)  I'm a couple of klm's north of Moyhu but can see the lights on during training and can hear the boys calling for the ball. :)

 

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Just throwing it out there as I have no idea about the fine detail, but what if a club chose your NGA kid, you had 5 minutes to agree to a trade with that club. They get whatever offer they accept, you get the kid. No deal accepted, you miss out, they get him.

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On 4/5/2022 at 10:49 AM, Action Jackson said:

Not being able to pick a player inside the top 40 is one of the more ridiculous drafting rules they brought in.

I can kind of understand the top 20 to an extent, but there is just no incentive to put any time or effort into the players if you lose access to them.

 

On 4/5/2022 at 11:34 AM, daisycutter said:

personally i think the father/son and all academies priority picks should be changed

make all the club for academies be more responsible for development activities (monitored and measured)

scrap all point discounts (getting priority is enough of an incentive)

all clubs to get priority (f/s or academy) but at the full points value bid (i.e. no discounts)

limit the number of priority picks in any year to 1

maybe not allow for future points to be used for priority picks (not sure on this one) or set a maximum future points limit

Personally,  I like the traditional of the father/son rule, but I think the academies should be abolished in as far as they currently exist.  Somewhat annoys me that we miss out on getting our cream, when others like the Bulldogs and Sydney have had their lick of the ice cream (and Sydney is still at the Ice cream shop lining up for more).  However, if it's not regulated and moderated, I could easily see this going back to be like the old 80s zone system, where those with the most productive zones consistently get the best players, or a higher proportion of them.

For the benifit of the game overall, I think it would be much better if the league/clubs put more money into developing elitle talents at TAC clubs etc and through providing more development and administration support at local grass roots weekend footy (excluding the private school boy stuff that is already generally funded and resourced to the hilt).  Could employ a bunch more of the ex/retired AFL level footballers and assist them to transition to life after football and still utilise and leverage their elite skills and professional sporting background to teach these same skills and ethos to the lower levels and next gen of up and commers.

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Still going strong according to the latest Rookie Me Central scouting notes - 

#13 Finn Emile-Brennan

The classy defender was able to produce some outstanding dash and drive out of defence, with a long booming kick. Though he made the odd rare mistake, when his kicking was on-point, it was deadly, and he was able to run hard in transition, showing clean hands and neat overall skills. Emile-Brennan’s best kick came in the second term when he was coming out of defence and managed to nail a long-range kick under pressure. He also showed strong evasion to avoid opponents at a stoppage, and always kept involved on his way to the second most disposals for his side.

 

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On 5/10/2022 at 7:58 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Finn Emile-Brennan has been called up to the Vic Country team to play the AFL Vic Young Guns next weekend.

All eyes on the target - a report would help after this match.

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