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Maybe there would be some basis for bullying claims, to Gil, from Footscray, Geelong and Brisbane.

Hey, shyt stirrers in the press - WE ARE PREMIERS. 

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1 hour ago, Sydney_Demon said:

The Dr (Zeeshan Arain) sued for wrongful dismissal and sought $250,000. He reveived a pre-trial settlement of $100,000. The fact that he reveived $100,000 is not necessarily an indication he had  a strong case. I would suggest that the fact he accepted $100,000 shows he probably didn't. Non-disclosure clauses are standard. Why would you give someone $100,000 and then let them sell their story later? The whole reason you are making a payment is for the story to go away. The Club didn't try to bury this totally. They took the workplace bullying accusation seriously and the Doctor's ongoing cooperation with this investigation was part of the payout agreement.

I previously worked in insurance and the reason why so few cases end up in court is because the defendant doesn't want a precedent to be set by a negative trial outcome. Even if you think you have a strong case you don't want to take the risk and a $100,000 payout in this instance might be considered a good option. $100,000 is nothing in terms of expenditure at an AFL Club.

You are more patient than me explaining this.

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Speaking to a doctor who left the club at the end of 2020 claims this is somewhat true but more along the lines of Simon asking him to have players ready before he was telling him they would be. Doctor took this as bullying and went for the pay out. Easy enough to spin it that way.

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1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Something which I feel hasn't nessacerilly been addressed in the media reporting of this is that AFL is not necessarily your standard workplace.  Whilst it's a fine line and I wouldn't condone workplace bullying, I think what also needs to be taken into consideration is that competitive contact sports are not your standard workplace and I feel that context is somewhat missing.  I think there is some level of aggressiveness and ultra competitiveness that could at times be perceived as bullying in any other workplace, that would be fairly standard behavior of most sporting organisations.  Perhaps this doctor wasn't a good fit for that culture.  I have no facts here, I'm only speculating, but so are the media, with the limited published facts, incomplete and one sided story they have.

I'd like to know how other clubs and coaches would measure up in this respects.  I dare say there are a number of other recient past and present AFL coaches that I can think of that have an intimating nature about them, that I think could have easily overstepped the line of what would be considered work place bullying in a standard workplace.

Kane Cornes alluded to this in his first response 9am yesterday.  Robust discussions between medicos and coaches are a weekly, if not daily, occurrence in high performance sporting environments.  Cornes was of the opinion it is all a non-story, while bizarrely praising the reporter....

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1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You can have accountability without totalitarianism.

And the lack of accountability has a very wide circle in this 'non-totalitarian' country. The recent tripe about the female Chinese tennis player is just one example.

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Without delving too deep into it my first reactions to all of this is the tall poppy syndrome coming out to play to create turmoil and manufacture a news story. That the beers in Sorrento have been dragged into this is the greatest example of gutter journalism by the HUN, while also bringing up old news that has been reported on multiple occasions (both negatively and positively) shows that they had a whiff of a story and needed other old details to fatten it out. 

Clearly there wasn’t a  positively functioning relationship between Bartlett by the end of his tenure which was why he was moved on. It’s rare that the club gets these things right but by putting in place the idea of a potential review mid 2021 it meant that either Glenn or Goody was going to be subject to removal. Goody performed and Glenn’s relationship meant he had to go. 

Our current president has phrased a strong letter to the members reiterating their back of our coach (pointing out that he’s the bloody premiership winning and coach of the year!) and all I can say is I’m glad the we didn’t follow Gil’s line of thinking. 

I hate to have the conspiracy style of thinking but it does seem like this is an attempt to destabilise us when we are at our peak of functionality. 

Gutter journalism of the HUN as usual. 

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1 hour ago, old dee said:

Agree but how do you get them? or am I just old and have given up.

Just old and given up,Iknow the feeling.Retired 2 weeks ago and nobody noticed

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Hang on, a review? I didn’t think there was a review?! At the time wasn’t the club pains to point out there was no review just a normal review every club goes through. 
 

Hahaha they’ve finally been found out it really was a review review! 

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Wish you would shut this down.Gf coach hung out to dry with no way of responding.The thing should be ignored.He is a good bloke or he would never have got to where he is in the afl ,he has had his problems in life like everyone .People who live in glass houses shoundnt through stones.

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We have had it too good for too long. Everybody loved us since Grand Final. Im not suprised some old lags want to get into us.

Now that we havent lost any players, havent had any injuries and we look to be on top of the pack again, there may be efforts to try to take us down a peg or 2.

This is weak and petty. Its all they (media) have got. I love it. Bring it.

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15 minutes ago, forever demons said:

Just old and given up,Iknow the feeling.Retired 2 weeks ago and nobody noticed

Have you yet become invisible fd? There are upsides like staying in bed on a cold winters morning because you can.

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5 minutes ago, Vitamin Dee said:

Let's all take some good learnings out of the experience, and get back to preparing for a back to back tilt at Premiership success. 

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5 minutes ago, old dee said:

Have you yet become invisible fd? There are upsides like staying in bed on a cold winters morning because you can.

Think i have,waiting for bus the other day and 2 went straight passed me.Gave up and went home

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19 hours ago, Redleg said:

Now we hear from the HSun that they have seen “secret documents” and a “cache of documents”. Time to bring in the Police for theft investigations.

The whole theme now surrounds the removal of Bartlett. Starting to look like there is a prime candidate for the “leaker” role.

Yes he does Red, along with someone he was pushing for a spot on the board (and it wasn't Peter Lawrence)

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34 minutes ago, forever demons said:

Retired 2 weeks ago and nobody noticed

 

11 minutes ago, forever demons said:

waiting for bus the other day and 2 went straight passed me.Gave up and went home

We all ‘see’ you, FD. You’re not invisible here. 😊

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Just now, Pates said:

I tend to agree, as much as I think the story seems to come from what was brewing between Glenn and Goody, Bartlett has never struck me as the type of person that holds his ego above the club which was why when he left there was minimal fuss (unlike a certain former pies president *cough cough*). Glenn played his part as much as anybody getting the club to where it is now so it seems strange he would now torch it. 

Doc and potential board nominees seem the obvious candidates, which doesn’t exactly scream “vote for change”. 

Think more clearly 'Pates'...where would the information come from, they don't have access to it.

...and this type of leak will only galvanise support around the incumbents.

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