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Dees win $1million McClelland Trophy


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They've called it:

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1057726/brisbane-lions-surrender-1m-mcclelland-prize-in-costly-loss-to-st-kilda-saints

"The result will see Melbourne claim the McClelland-Trophy treasure, with Collingwood one game and nearly 18 percentage points behind."

Both our teams have contributed 64 points (with one game remaining for the women), so a nice and even contribution. Someday a club will win it with more of a contribution from one team over the other, but this ain't that.

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  • Grapeviney changed the title to Dees win $1million McClelland Trophy

No question about it. The Melbourne Football Club is the best, most successful club in Australia right now. The media questioning of the club’s  “culture “  is complete [censored]. 

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1 hour ago, Dees_In_October said:

They've called it:

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1057726/brisbane-lions-surrender-1m-mcclelland-prize-in-costly-loss-to-st-kilda-saints

"The result will see Melbourne claim the McClelland-Trophy treasure, with Collingwood one game and nearly 18 percentage points behind."

Both our teams have contributed 64 points (with one game remaining for the women), so a nice and even contribution. Someday a club will win it with more of a contribution from one team over the other, but this ain't that.

Love it 'Dees'...

If the girls can now make it back to back it will cap off a great season for the club.

 

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20 minutes ago, London Demon said:

No question about it. The Melbourne Football Club is the best, most successful club in Australia right now. The media questioning of the club’s  “culture “  is complete [censored]. 

Great win by our girls, but the culture in the men’s team can definitely be questioned. 

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

You can't include the girls into the men's in terms of culture. That's offensive to the girls program.

It's Separate. 

The girls are a very well drilled team which is driven hard by Mick Stinear who's created a fantastic culture for the women's. 

The boys could learn a thing or two from the way Mick and his team go about it from a culture point of view.

Couldn’t agree more. They could also learn from the AFLW teams ball movement and game plan a bit as well.

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14 hours ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

I have to say this list feels like a backhanded compliment but insulting at the same time. You’re implying women weren’t interested in football prior to AFLW’s introduction (which is demonstrably untrue) and that AFLW was only introduced to attract more women as spectators (also demonstrably untrue). I guess, though, my biggest issue I have with this post is your assertion it’s women’s fault was that AFLW doesn’t have the strong following AFL has is because women are still “talking the talk around BBQ’s” about male players and not female players. I’m sorry, but WTF? 
 

I’d hate to break it to you but football has always enjoyed support from female spectators since the beginning. Go look at footage of early 20th century games, you’ll see just as many women in the grandstands as you do men. As an example, my nana was born in 1910, she grew up around the corner from the Brunswick St oval, and she’d go every week with her parents and sister to Fitzroy games, as was the custom for many families, just like today. Even before AFLW sone clubs, including Melbourne, were having memberships showing equal representation of males and females. So the assertion you make that AFL needed to do more to attract women and families, and that’s the reason AFLW introduced, is wrong. It was introduced because women who were playing football wanted representation at a higher level. They wanted to be able to play football without people saying “you can’t do that, you’re a girl.” I was 1970s child, I used to love playing football in the backyard with my brother and his mates, we’d set up items in the yard to be goal posts, place the bins here, cricket stumps there, etc. I’d see the occasional girl in the little league in the G, or at my brother’s footy clinic, and I’d ask if I can join in, only to have my dad say, “no, you’re a girl.” It was demoralising to hear that as a kid. 

You implying AFLW doesn’t have a strong following because women need to stop talking about male players and start talking about women is absurd, sexist and contradictory. Contradictory because earlier in the post you made the assertion AFLW easily introduced to attract more female spectators, but then you state women spectators are only talking about the male players. Make your mind up, in your mind do we support footy or not? Sexist, because, well let’s face it, if I were to dissect your entire post on its levels of sexism I’d be here all day, and I’d much prefer to spend my day at Casey this afternoon supporting our AFLW team like I’ve been doing since the exhibition  matches. And absurd, because while you are implying women are at fault when we talk about male players, you make no mention that maybe, just maybe, men should perhaps talk more about female players. Why is it that women can be fans of both but men are only fans of the men? 
I’m a 52 year old woman who has supported my club since birth. I first became a member when my dad bought a family membership when I was 6 in 1977, and I’ve been a consecutive member since the age of 14 - next year will be my 39th year as a consecutive member. I‘be been in Redlegs since 1988, I’m a Demon Army member, a Ruby Demons committee member, a foundation AFLW member, I participated in forums last year run by David Rennick on the constitutional changes, I sponsor an AFLW player, and I volunteer my time for the football club. I’m an active participant and supporter of both men’s and women’s programs. And I’m a woman. I’d love it if more men showed as much support for the women in the club as they do for the men. Because we’re one club, that happens to pioneer representation of both men and women in the game. 

apologies to all. You are correct in all you say.

i have presented a poorly constructed and articulated comment.

it does certainly present as sexist criticism which was not my intention. Thank you for taking the time to respond and as you say it would require more time to dissect than it is worth.

i will contnue to watch and support our male and female players and encourage everyone to do the same.

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1 hour ago, Demonsterative said:

Great win by our girls, but the culture in the men’s team can definitely be questioned. 

Really? You maybe read the Herald Sun and Robbo, or you listen to the Cornfield a wee bit too much for your health of mind. 😎😍🥰

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Congrats to the women's and men's teams on winning the McClelland. Thoroughly deserved the women have been brilliant.   

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3 hours ago, London Demon said:

No question about it. The Melbourne Football Club is the best, most successful club in Australia right now. The media questioning of the club’s  “culture “  is complete [censored]. 

RE the best club in Australia:

Whether you used AFLW S6, S7 or a combinatuon of both, if they had awarded the Mcellend Trophy using the same formula in 2022 we would've won it last year as well.

2021 didn't have all 18 clubs in the AFLW, but we would've won it that year too, based on the club's that were in.

3 years in a row being the most dominant club in the land.

 

 

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11 hours ago, dpositive said:

apologies to all. You are correct in all you say.

i have presented a poorly constructed and articulated comment.

it does certainly present as sexist criticism which was not my intention. Thank you for taking the time to respond and as you say it would require more time to dissect than it is worth.

i will contnue to watch and support our male and female players and encourage everyone to do the same.

Thank you, I really appreciate your response. 

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15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

You can't include the girls into the men's in terms of culture. That's offensive to the girls program.

It's Separate. 

The girls are a very well drilled team which is driven hard by Mick Stinear who's created a fantastic culture for the women's. 

The boys could learn a thing or two from the way Mick and his team go about it from a culture point of view.

Yep @dazzledavey36 been thinking for ages that Mick should be in helping Goody in some capacity at aflw seasons end.

It's not just culture, he seems to be a great tactician as well.

He's a gem

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29 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Yep @dazzledavey36 been thinking for ages that Mick should be in helping Goody in some capacity at aflw seasons end.

It's not just culture, he seems to be a great tactician as well.

He's a gem

It'll be a matter of time before he is snapped up in the AFLM environment. 

Whoever does that will be incredibly lucky to be get such a valuable asset into their environment. 

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Fantastic recognition for our AFLW & AFL teams, we are all enjoying our most successful era since the mid 50’s - mid 60’s. Soak it up and enjoy their success, we are in great shape as a club, let’s hope that our AFLW team can go back to back in 2023, the flow on effect will be enormous. Even more boys and girls running around in Red & Blue next season, I am loving this experience.❤️💙

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Just now, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Surely there is a position he can take up in the current coaching set up.

Haha he may want to go back- to back - to back, we just need to lock Mick into a long term deal.!!

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2 hours ago, Brownie said:

Yep @dazzledavey36 been thinking for ages that Mick should be in helping Goody in some capacity at aflw seasons end.

It's not just culture, he seems to be a great tactician as well.

He's a gem

 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It'll be a matter of time before he is snapped up in the AFLM environment. 

Whoever does that will be incredibly lucky to be get such a valuable asset into their environment. 

 

20 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Agree that Mick Stinear has a lot to offer Goodwin and his coaching group.

 

8 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Surely there is a position he can take up in the current coaching set up.

Spend five minutes with Mick and the girls and you’ll see…he ain’t goin’ nowhere. 😁

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It'll be a matter of time before he is snapped up in the AFLM environment. 

Whoever does that will be incredibly lucky to be get such a valuable asset into their environment. 

I think Mick is fantastic, he and Daisy set up this team and are a big part of the culture.

The team themselves, what a great bunch they are.

Peter Jackson again had the foresight to get on board way back when others couldn't see it.

It mustn't also be forgotten that one of the people 'Robbo' has been taking pot shots at...the Prez, Kate Roffey has been very proactive.

...and I will also say a big part of the success of the women's team are the cheer squad who are the envy of the competition and an absolute credit to themselves and the club.

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2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It'll be a matter of time before he is snapped up in the AFLM environment. 

Whoever does that will be incredibly lucky to be get such a valuable asset into their environment. 

I believe he lives down Apollo Bay way so if he was to get into a men’s coaching role on a full time basis as much as I would love it to be with us, that tax payer funded club in Cotton On FC would be attractive from a location point of view. You can wear the travel for a shorter AFLW season but with a young family the travel and time commitment with our men’s program may be too much. Daisy to come home and take over the AFLW program and Mick promoted to the men’s program would be a dream scenario.

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38 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think Mick is fantastic, he and Daisy set up this team and are a big part of the culture.

The team themselves, what a great bunch they are.

Peter Jackson again had the foresight to get on board way back when others couldn't see it.

It mustn't also be forgotten that one of the people 'Robbo' has been taking pot shots at...the Prez, Kate Roffey has been very proactive.

...and I will also say a big part of the success of the women's team are the cheer squad who are the envy of the competition and an absolute credit to themselves and the club.

Thanks for the acknowledgment, rjay. We are baffled as to why the other clubs don’t get involved to the level we do. It’s so rewarding. The players are 

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