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It gives me goose bumps and brings tears to my eyes.  I'm not sure which of the two expressions moves me the most.  Both say so much.

The caption 'Youre a good man, the players love you' is what Roffey said to Goodwin at the start of the season to help him build belief in himself. 

What beautiful, quite and inspiring words. 

Another thing she said to him was:  'Be yourself', which became Goodwin's mantra/advice to the players through the finals.

Keep in mind that at the time externally, Goodwin's job was seen as being in jeopardy.  If ever a man needed support and belief, that was it.  Kate stepped up to the plate.

If you would like to see the whole interview it is the 'Offisders'.  The whole program is about our win.  There are some good insights that haven't been discussed in the general media.

The interview with Roffey starts @ 14.30

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/RS2008V037S00

This year our club has been built on 'Team', 'Support', 'Belief, and 'Selflessness'.  And it starts right at the top with our President. 

My admiration for her and her wisdom has gone through the roof.

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Thanks for that 

Simon needed the right people around him. To remove the President,  mid Season with Kate was a ballsy move, but it will go down as a masterstroke

Glenn’s leaving was amicable both ways i have been told, so it didn’t cause waves in the media. 
(Glenn was in the rooms Saturday night) 

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Kate was asked when will Melbourne fans get to see the players and the cup.

She said her dream would be to have an event at the G, replay the game and re-present the medals (hoping I heard that right).

Then I saw this mcc-keen-to-welcome-dees-for-fans-celebration

Kate's dream may not come to fruition and any event may depend on covid restrictions and MCC prep for the cricket season.

The article reminded me of our DL angst over recent years of where would we go to celebrate a GF the day after?

It won't be the day after but we have the answer:  Our spiritual home:  The MCG.  Imagine the MCG full of only Demon supporters!

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38 minutes ago, Premiers said:

  Imagine the MCG full of only Demon supporters!


A bit like the Elimination Final v Cats 2018 😉

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58 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

5 of the last 6 premierships have been won by clubs presided over by women.

It could be a coincidence, or it could be that it's time to bring in more women into administrative roles at football clubs.

 

I'm a massive advocate of best person for the job.

5 of the 6 last premierships were won with female presidents. Won on merit and not because they were women. 

No tokens.

Go dees and go women in football.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

5 of the last 6 premierships have been won by clubs presided over by women.

It could be a coincidence, or it could be that it's time to bring in more women into administrative roles at football clubs.

 

I'm intermittently working on some day publishing a paper - working title 'The Curie-Johnson effect' named after Marie Curie and NASA's Katherine Johnson. It is not specifically about women but it examines the idea that where a group is generally excluded from participation or progress in a particular area, then it stands to reason that the exceptions must be, well, exceptional!

I like to imagine it as an alternative to the highly problematic methods such as 'affirmative action' and tokenistic recruiting, in that to the extent that a person has overcome resistance to achieve in their field it is a valid demonstration of both their ability and their character which can legitimately be considered in a selection process.

Right now, with the likes of Daisy Pearce in commentary and Kate Roffey in club leadership, the AFL is seeing a breakthrough wave of women who have had both the ability and the resilience to push to the top against all kinds of resistance.

For a while there will likely be a pattern of women outperforming men at the very top level roles in football. With time as women's presence in football leadership is normalised (touch wood) the women in leadership will also just be 'normal' at the same standard as men.

Women can't all be Daisy Pearce... somewhere out there is the female equivalent of BT.

The horror.

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2 hours ago, Premiers said:

She said her dream would be to have an event at the G, replay the game and re-present the medals (hoping I heard that right).

Yeah, you heard that right. Kate said she’d love this to happen asap, as soon as restrictions are lifted. She said we’re not the sort of club that says ‘Don’t touch the Cup!’ She reckons it’s already been dropped and knocked about quite a bit, already got a couple of little dents. 

Another thing about Kate: you know how every so often you stop and think, ‘did that really happen? Did we really win the premiership?’ I know I’m still doing that, probs will be for a while yet. Well, Kate said that’s happening to her, and it takes for her to see a pic of herself and one of the players holding the cup for her to think, ‘yep, that really happened.’ Very relatable. 

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39 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

Good on Kate, but the credit really should go to Glen Bartlett.  He is the President that took us from the sh_it heap to the clusp of a Premiership. Kate was the lucky successor who took over with the hard work already completed. 

It wasn't 'luck', it was earned.

Drop the agenda.

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53 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

I'm intermittently working on some day publishing a paper - working title 'The Curie-Johnson effect' named after Marie Curie and NASA's Katherine Johnson. It is not specifically about women but it examines the idea that where a group is generally excluded from participation or progress in a particular area, then it stands to reason that the exceptions must be, well, exceptional!

I like to imagine it as an alternative to the highly problematic methods such as 'affirmative action' and tokenistic recruiting, in that to the extent that a person has overcome resistance to achieve in their field it is a valid demonstration of both their ability and their character which can legitimately be considered in a selection process.

Right now, with the likes of Daisy Pearce in commentary and Kate Roffey in club leadership, the AFL is seeing a breakthrough wave of women who have had both the ability and the resilience to push to the top against all kinds of resistance.

For a while there will likely be a pattern of women outperforming men at the very top level roles in football. With time as women's presence in football leadership is normalised (touch wood) the women in leadership will also just be 'normal' at the same standard as men.

Women can't all be Daisy Pearce... somewhere out there is the female equivalent of BT.

The horror.

Sorry no woman is that bad.

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14 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Yeah, you heard that right. Kate said she’d love this to happen asap, as soon as restrictions are lifted. She said we’re not the sort of club that says ‘Don’t touch the Cup!’ She reckons it’s already been dropped and knocked about quite a bit, already got a couple of little dents. 

Another thing about Kate: you know how every so often you stop and think, ‘did that really happen? Did we really win the premiership?’ I know I’m still doing that, probs will be for a while yet. Well, Kate said that’s happening to her, and it takes for her to see a pic of herself and one of the players holding the cup for her to think, ‘yep, that really happened.’ Very relatable. 

This morning I got up walk out picked up the HUN and said to my wife " we won the bloody Grand Final".

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1 hour ago, Grand New Flag said:

Good on Kate, but the credit really should go to Glen Bartlett.  He is the President that took us from the sh_it heap to the clusp of a Premiership. Kate was the lucky successor who took over with the hard work already completed. 

Bartlett did a lot of good for our club.

This thread is about how Roffey supported Goodwin, gave him belief and helped drive the values the club has espoused this year.

Last year I recall Bartlett scorching Goodwin and the players publicly and by all accounts completely blindsided them.  Deserved?  Possibly.  But that behaviour was the antithesis of building teamwork, support and to engender belief in people.

Last year Bartlett put a real dent in our culture.  Roffey, as outlined in the Offsiders, has repaired it.  

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3 hours ago, Premiers said:

Kate was asked when will Melbourne fans get to see the players and the cup.

She said her dream would be to have an event at the G, replay the game and re-present the medals (hoping I heard that right).

Then I saw this mcc-keen-to-welcome-dees-for-fans-celebration

Kate's dream may not come to fruition and any event may depend on covid restrictions and MCC prep for the cricket season.

The article reminded me of our DL angst over recent years of where would we go to celebrate a GF the day after?

It won't be the day after but we have the answer:  Our spiritual home:  The MCG.  Imagine the MCG full of only Demon supporters!

Yes please🥰

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9 minutes ago, Premiers said:

Bartlett did a lot of good for our club.

This thread is about how Roffey supported Goodwin, gave him belief and helped drive the values the club has espoused this year.

Last year I recall Bartlett scorching Goodwin and the players publicly and by all accounts completely blindsided them.  Deserved?  Possibly.  But that behaviour was the antithesis of building teamwork, support and to engender belief in people.

Last year Bartlett put a real dent in our culture.  Roffey, as outlined in the Offsiders, has repaired it.  

Rubbish. Last year Bartlett said exactly what needed to be said at the time.

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14 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

I think that's quiet a sexist comment. I'd have thought supporters would be wrapped if we got an outstanding person regardless of gender or any other particular classification. 

No it’s not. They said ‘if’.

If the best person for ceo is a woman that would be great. If the best person isn’t a woman then that’s fine too 

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4 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

it could be that it's time to bring in more women into administrative roles at football clubs.

 

 

2 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

I'm a massive advocate of best person for the job.

5 of the 6 last premierships were won with female presidents. Won on merit and not because they were women. 

No tokens.

Go dees and go women in football.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, rjay said:

I would love it if the best person for the job when Pert steps down is a woman.

That would be a huge step.

 

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

I'm intermittently working on some day publishing a paper - working title 'The Curie-Johnson effect' named after Marie Curie and NASA's Katherine Johnson. It is not specifically about women but it examines the idea that where a group is generally excluded from participation or progress in a particular area, then it stands to reason that the exceptions must be, well, exceptional!

 

 

24 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

I think that's quiet a sexist comment. I'd have thought supporters would be wrapped if we got an outstanding person regardless of gender or any other particular classification. 

 

10 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

No it’s not. They said ‘if’.

If the best person for ceo is a woman that would be great. If the best person isn’t a woman then that’s fine too 

Poor old 'Cranky' after a premiership win surely you could be 'Less Cranky Franky' or even 'Friendly Franky'...

I did say "If"...

Sorry for yelling...

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21 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Rubbish. Last year Bartlett said exactly what needed to be said at the time.

Did he?

We we’re 3-5 with losses to the Eagles in Perth, Geel, Rich, Brisbane by under a goal in Queensland in a heartbreaker and got smashed by Port off a 4 day break.

We’d lost to the top 5 teams in the comp all in neutral or away locations.

The Port game was very disappointing but grandstanding about it changed nothing. We won the next 2 games which we were always going to do against the cellar dwellers, then had an up and down finish to the year.

We needed another summer of Burgo, better assistant coaches, maturing players to take ownership, a few more pieces of the puzzle in Brown and Bowey and the coach to hold his nerve. 

Kennett style internal drama only works if you really want a footy department to ignore the President and go through a Dunstall type figure. It’s better to have everyone working together which is why the Board saw a chance to make a change after the fast start this year.

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47 minutes ago, rjay said:

 

 

 

 

 

Poor old 'Cranky' after a premiership win surely you could be 'Less Cranky Franky' or even 'Friendly Franky'...

I did say "If"...

Sorry for yelling...

Let's just hope this is the start of an era of competent Presidents, Boards & CEO's for the Club as they have been few & far between in my time. Kate has certainly been impressive so far.

I'll change to Less Cranky after we get a 3peat.

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1 hour ago, Premiers said:

This thread is about how Roffey supported Goodwin, gave him belief and helped drive the values the club has espoused this year.

Exactly. Thanks (Luci?) ❤️💙

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