GRAND FINAL: Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs

[Willmoy1947 3,758]

First bounce May in the middle?

[binman 37,722]

Wrong thread 

Edited September 25, 2021 by binman

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1 minute ago, Engorged Onion said:

A wrist or a forearm injury in the PF I think.

That Gf was at a frantic pace.

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1 minute ago, binman said:

Many seem to be considering the dog's performance in the prelim to be the equal of ours. I don't.

They were reasonably close but port are not as good a team as cats.

The real indicator was the dogs only just beating lions. Got a fair ride from the umps.

But that aside justice is afoot with the years two best teams facing off.

I think with the way Max and Jv are playing it is our midfield that will dominate.

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1 minute ago, Engorged Onion said:

A wrist or a forearm injury in the PF I think.

‘00 us are thinking never mind, blue skies ahead! He’s only young, he’ll get plenty of opportunity for another crack! We went this well with a young team, imagine how good we’re going to be in 2-3 years time?

Just reinforces the point about how bloody hard getting this far is. Even those invincible Bombers got knocked off the following year because another invincible team, Vossy’s Lions, popped out of the woodwork in ‘01. Can’t help but feel we will most probably never get another chance as good as this one. Goody of all people knows this - flag in his first two seasons as a player then no more grannies in an illustrious career. Bring it home boys.

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4 minutes ago, willmoy said:

First bounce May in the middle?

First bounce will be (not May be) in the middle.

[Deemania since 56 6,119]

On 9/24/2021 at 9:50 AM, Fat Tony said:

There’s a lot of talk about targeting Gawn but I hope we are super aggressive on the Bont and English. 

Everyone from Barassi to Demonland to the general public, to all footballing fanatics that you talk to about today's GF have a very strong awareness of the season (and longer) advantage given to the Bulldogs (and Geelong) at the drop of the whistle through the allegedly impartial umpires.

Surely someone in authority across the League and the population in general has had a word about this contradictory conundrum of our game to raise it directly with the AFL - and thus have stimulated the AFL to have a very serious word or two to the umpiring panel and its selections for the GF - STOP IT !!!!

How many actual games have been unfairly gifted to the Bulldogs (and Geelong) in recent seasons? Clean up the act; this is our Premiership, not a toy for the umpires to play with in their biased ways.

 

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9 minutes ago, binman said:

Too distracted to post much of late.

I think we win, and win pretty easily in the end.

Objectively the bookies have got the price right at 1.65 (it has been the quote for two weeks now). 

We have won our last six matches, including 3 win against top 4 sides. In doing so we averaged 100.5 games.

In that same period the dogs have gone 4 win and 3 losses and averaged 80 points per game.

In that period we have significantly improved two key elements - we have been scoring from stoppages and starting fast. All season the dogs have been terrific in both these areas, but have fallen away in the last 6 weeks

Even with the two week break to freshen up the dogs are playing tow players that are the very least suspect fitness wise in keath and Martin.

By contrast, we could barely be fitter. We are fitter and stronger than the dogs and will run out the game better. As we have show all season, if the dogs have a lead at 3 quarter time they will struggle to hold us off. Conversely if we have a lead, which i expect we will, we will be very hard to run down.

Despite reports the contrary, Beveridge is not a coaching savant who will magic up tactical moves that will bamboozle Good and his coaching team and overcome our advantages. 

Many are suggesting the  two week break really helps the dogs. Not sure why.

Who knows what impact it will have, but we were able to have a full scale hit out las Saturday arvo. They couldn't becuase they needed to freshen up their weary troops.

Also the dogs get an advantage from the two week break narrative cuts against the us against the world  palaver Beveridge loves to engineer.

And the dogs would have probably preferred to keep going given their momentum - and bevo could also play the we have been in quarantine and the dees haven't, look at them at the beaches and cafe, card. 

Our preparation has been perfect, we have established a routine over the last month - one that as Pert noted on the Demonland podcast, was planned with exactly this scenario in mind.

Our game is built for the g and Optus oval is almost exactly the same dimensions. It suits us and with our defensive system and running power of all players, gives us a considerable comparative advantage. And this will be third time we have played there in the last 2 months. And in that time we have probably trained there at lest 5 times

Many seem to be considering the dog's performance in the prelim to be the equal of ours. I don't.

Port were woeful and bizarrely did not bring the heat in the first quarter. Perhaps it was something to do with the fact Port thrive on the energy of their home crowd and there was on 26, 000 people there. 

The Cats were hard at it all game as evidenced by the pressure rating for the match with which was something like 185 to 175 our way.

And there is simply no way we give Hannan and Smit the space to run into Port did. 

That's a really poor preparation for the blitzkrieg they will face tonight. 

I'm surprised more people have not pointed out the advantage we get of having already experienced the insanity of packed Optus Oval with its colour, intensity and above all deafening noise. That will all come as a shock to the dogs as might the fact it will be a very pro demons crowd. 

The major issue for the dogs is that we are unlikely to concede more than 70 points. Which means they have to keep us under 70 points to win. On a perfect deck, in perfect conditions and with our offensive weapons' and ability to generate repeat inside 50s on back of forward half pressure, they will struggle mightily to do so. 

I think we will come out of the blocks and blitz them. They might stick with us for a quarter, maybe even a quarter and a half. But i expect we will get on top and be better place to take advantage of periods in the first half when we get the momentum.

I can see us with 4-5 goal lead at half time, with the dogs pressing super hard in the third quarter but not being able to significantly bridge the gap. So a 4-5 goal lead at three quarter time. 

Last quarter the dogs have spent there petrol tickets and we keep rolling to a 43 point win.

Tracc or Viney for the Norm Smith.

Good luck and super positive vibes to the Demonland posse. Thanks to all for your fantastic posts and for the dees community vibe. I've loved that aspect and its gone  along to way to mitigate the impact of the game not being here at the g.  

I hope everyone has wonderful days.

See you on the other side.

Go redlegs.

On song as usual Binman !

Even better than our last 6 matches, just look at our last 10 quarters, immense! Our percentage is over 200% in that time - we look rock solid!

Bont isn’t 100% on top of Martin & Keath!
 

The one move I would make is Harmes as half forward onto Daniels, will kill him in air, and put immense pressure on him!

Demons just kick straight and put Dogs away by half time!!

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1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Everyone from Barassi to Demonland to the general public, to all footballing fanatics that you talk to about today's GF have a very strong awareness of the season (and longer) advantage given to the Bulldogs (and Geelong) at the drop of the whistle through the allegedly impartial umpires.

Surely someone in authority across the League and the population in general has had a word about this contradictory conundrum of our game to raise it directly with the AFL - and thus have stimulated the AFL to have a very serious word or two to the umpiring panel and its selections for the GF - STOP IT !!!!

How many actual games have been unfairly gifted to the Bulldogs (and Geelong) in recent seasons? Clean up the act; this is our Premiership, not a toy for the umpires to play with in their biased ways.

 

I would like to see the insufficient intent rule arbitrated more accurately. The umpires have made a meal of this rule all year.

I know I'm bias but I watched the replay of our last dogs game and while most of the 25 frees to the dogs were fair except two maybes it was the lack of calls we didn't seem to get leaving us with only 11.

The five blatant misses probably wouldn't have got us across the line but it may have come down to a kick.

The port dogs final I thought was a game of some very soft frees to the dogs which helped the dogs score goals.

I just hope the umps don't get too involved tonight that's all unless Max gets unfairly treated.

I think there will be a lot of rough stuff tonight but we are certainly not a bruise free team.

Edited September 25, 2021 by leave it to deever

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On 9/12/2021 at 11:17 AM, Fork 'em said:

Spent the whole year on top of the ladder.
Beat every-one.
Strong all over the ground.
Just put together the best game I've seen a Melbourne side play
Goin' in absolutely red hot and just gotta do what we've done all year on GF day.
Show every-one why they finished on top.
And they will.
And it will be glorious.
 

FIG JAM 😅