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On 9/19/2021 at 10:01 PM, Webber said:

I made the same point on the Brownlow thread, and I’m gonna do it here. It’s fascinating that ‘people’ place any kind of meaning in utterly irrelevant stats like this. I know it’s an MFCSS thing to need to find reasons for failure, a desperate search for some kind of self-fulfilling doomsday narrative, but please, this is just silly. Maybe just find another meaningless stat to balance it out, cos I guarantee there’ll be a squillion of them. 

Is there an AFL equivalent of Professor Alan Lichtmann, the bloke who came up with the ‘keys to the White House’ theory that predicted Trump in ‘16 when no one else did?

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I still remember when Petracca stole Salem’s (ANZAC Eve) medal as soon as the words “Christian” were announced… 🤣🤣🤣 he’s so hungry for the big stage, the big games. He might unleash this week and go full-beast mode!

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5 minutes ago, DeezNuts said:

I still remember when Petracca stole Salem’s (ANZAC Eve) medal as soon as the words “Christian” were announced… 🤣🤣🤣 he’s so hungry for the big stage, the big games. He might unleash this week and go full-beast mode!

Oh it’s Petracca…god that was an embarrassing presentation 

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I have a feeling Jacko could have a much more significant role to play in this game than people realise.

Most focus in media etc has been on Gawny, Clarry and Trac. Gawny's dominance in the ruck in the previous games hasn't translated to clearances. So do we lose much by putting Jacko in much more of the ruck contests and free up Gawny to create a match up nightmare in the forward line or dropping back to chop out in defence.

It might even work against the Doggies system if the ruck contests are more even and they can't shark off us as much. They would potentially get caught between setting up for winning contests themselves not just defensively sharking off us. If it is neutralised then Jacko becomes even more of a clearance weapon once it hits the ground and he can then run Martin into the ground. He'll be cooked before the last quarter. 

Also have a feeling Vines is going to have a blinder. This game will be tailor made for his manic attack on the ball and player at stoppages which is where the Doggies must win to have a chance of winning the game. 

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5 minutes ago, It's Time said:

I have a feeling Jacko could have a much more significant role to play in this game than people realise.

Most focus in media etc has been on Gawny, Clarry and Trac. Gawny's dominance in the ruck in the previous games hasn't translated to clearances. So do we lose much by putting Jacko in much more of the ruck contests and free up Gawny to create a match up nightmare in the forward line or dropping back to chop out in defence.

It might even work against the Doggies system if the ruck contests are more even and they can't shark off us as much. They would potentially get caught between setting up for winning contests themselves not just defensively sharking off us. If it is neutralised then Jacko becomes even more of a clearance weapon once it hits the ground and he can then run Martin into the ground. He'll be cooked before the last quarter. 

Also have a feeling Vines is going to have a blinder. This game will be tailor made for his manic attack on the ball and player at stoppages which is where the Doggies must win to have a chance of winning the game. 

Agree, vines is going to hurt them

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19 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Where the Dogs excel is winning clearances from opposition's taps.”

This is spot on. I watched the Rd 19 game in full and this is what lost it for us. They were always on the move and expecting and predicting where Max would tap it. They obviously put a lot of work into his tapping patterns. Max eventually got frustrated and started just aimlessly slapping the ball 20 metres forward. If this starts happening, I’d be throwing Jacko in the ruck and getting Max forward and behind the ball. Jackson is less predictable and is like an extra mid. Have a plan B

sometimes in a big finals punching it forward or grabbing it and kicking as sometimes Max does is very effective. better to get some ascendancy than win most of the taps with no ascendancy. and surely they've had time to be unpredictable. you'd like to think the first quarter with Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Viney we can win the clearances. the centre clearances are more vital with the 6-6-6 rule and thats what they will be panicking about. we smashed Geelong when we won the centre clearance.

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2 hours ago, It's Time said:

I have a feeling Jacko could have a much more significant role to play in this game than people realise.

Most focus in media etc has been on Gawny, Clarry and Trac. Gawny's dominance in the ruck in the previous games hasn't translated to clearances. So do we lose much by putting Jacko in much more of the ruck contests and free up Gawny to create a match up nightmare in the forward line or dropping back to chop out in defence.

It might even work against the Doggies system if the ruck contests are more even and they can't shark off us as much. They would potentially get caught between setting up for winning contests themselves not just defensively sharking off us. If it is neutralised then Jacko becomes even more of a clearance weapon once it hits the ground and he can then run Martin into the ground. He'll be cooked before the last quarter. 

 

I have been wondering the same thing, it would throw the Dogs If Jacko took the first bounce (wont happen) as their sharking plans will be off and the extra tall mid in the center may cause some mayhem. It would also mean their plan to be one extra and one wide at clearances is also disrupted. I'd certainly make the change for the second centre bounce. 

Whilst the dogs try to disrupt Lever big Max can drop back. I also think this whole idea (which the Cats also were on about) of having too many talls for our backs is misplaced. Everyone seems to forget Petty can take the number one forward we have 3 very good tall backs along with Rivers who is a good match for Hannan. 

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Today’s training gallery has Spargo featuring in 4 of the first 5 photos and 7 out of the total 41. Reassuring the supporters as all photos show him in boots. 

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4 hours ago, It's Time said:

I have a feeling Jacko could have a much more significant role to play in this game than people realise.

Most focus in media etc has been on Gawny, Clarry and Trac. Gawny's dominance in the ruck in the previous games hasn't translated to clearances. So do we lose much by putting Jacko in much more of the ruck contests and free up Gawny to create a match up nightmare in the forward line or dropping back to chop out in defence.

It might even work against the Doggies system if the ruck contests are more even and they can't shark off us as much. They would potentially get caught between setting up for winning contests themselves not just defensively sharking off us. If it is neutralised then Jacko becomes even more of a clearance weapon once it hits the ground and he can then run Martin into the ground. He'll be cooked before the last quarter. 

Also have a feeling Vines is going to have a blinder. This game will be tailor made for his manic attack on the ball and player at stoppages which is where the Doggies must win to have a chance of winning the game. 

I like this. Just have to make sure Gawny has his kicking boots on. Stef will be cooked by first quarter given how Dogga moves.

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I doubt Martin will be able to keep up with big Max or be able to cope when Max goes forward. I think Max will run him around early to the point of exhaustion then go forward and Jacko into the ruck. That will force them to move English into the ruck from forward, Martin to bench with Max forward. 

Max would be full of confidence and height of his powers. He will cause huge headaches for the Dogs when he goes forward. Apart from his incredible marking during the last couple of months we have seen a much more agile and athletic Max around the ground. 

I am backing our mids to play very well.

No doubt you would have watched the Mike Sheahan interview on the MFC website. Ranks our list as easily the best he has seen for the MFC. Ranks our mids as the best currently and Max as the best ruckman.

We just have to produce top performance on the day. Max, Trac, Oliver and Viney seem very single minded and determined to produce whatever it takes..

Do Dees!!!!!!

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