Does 83 in a Prelimimary trump 186

[640MD 2,743]

Now I do not know what the 186 defeat was like.  Left a day before and was in Canada and back then, phones and internet was very ordinary.

So tell me what is better.  I cannot see any time we have played better in the last 50 years. Goody got the brickbats he deserves the plaudits.

But are we avenged?

[rpfc 27,391]

Yes

[one_demon 826]

Yesterday has nothing to do with 186

[Guest]

To be honest, it doesn’t trump it as I believe that metric no longer applies.

The list, the admin and the coaching staff of now and that day are chalk and cheese. Geelong are also a very different team.

I, and @Sir Why You Little moreso, have spoken about how pivotal that game was. It’s now an irrelevancy for what we are trying to achieve.

 

[WERRIDEE 5,198]

186 was a lifetime ago that was the terrible era of Bailey and Neeld. This is the glorious era of Roos and Goodwin.

[durango 1,976]

This win is a reminder of the teams of the 1950's where MFC was a great team and a Premiership team with 5 premierships in 6 years and 7 grand fianl appearances from 1954 to 1960.

This team is good but will it be great will depend on whether it can convert appearances in Grand Finals to Premierships. 

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

In the post game thread I wrote:

186 Atoned.  

83 in the penultimate game on the big stage vs a nothing at stake game at sleepy hollow, Geelong.  Hell yes 83 trumps 186!!

Let the scars from this game sink deep into their dna and may it take them a decade to recover.

Geelong are now our 🐰!!

[layzie 28,488]

You best believe it does

[deebug 1,754]

Lets enjoy what we have right now😁

 

[Jaded No More 57,629]

We did to Geelong yesterday what they did to us that day. We put a final nail in their coffin. 
Suffer Geelong. Just suffer. 
 

edit: I hope somewhere Dean Bailey is watching and smiling. 

Edited September 10, 2021 by Jaded

[gs77 3,270]

186 was a special kind of horror. Years later I dug up and read through the gameday thread of that game. Macabre stuff. But while it was the low watermark, 186 was but one of so many pastings we've had at the hands of the cats over the years. 

After two heartbreakingly narrow losses to them in the H&A 2018 season, the 2018 Elimination Final went some way towards healing the wounds of the past, but to put them to the sword in a Prelim when their trading and list management has put them in such a precipitous position, having also beaten them first in a controlled manner early in the season, then in the soul-crushing 44-pt goal-after-the-siren rd23 bonanza, this to me consigns 186 to an historical footnote irrelevant to our current team.

 

[Sir Why You Little 34,407]

38 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

To be honest, it doesn’t trump it as I believe that metric no longer applies.

The list, the admin and the coaching staff of now and that day are chalk and cheese. Geelong are also a very different team.

I, and @Sir Why You Little moreso, have spoken about how pivotal that game was. It’s now an irrelevancy for what we are trying to achieve.

 

I just feel sorry for Dean Bailey and always will. 
The players loved him. 
It just shows what a mess the Club was in. 
A mess PJ quickly cleaned out and then the long road back

Attitude…..

[Sir Why You Little 34,407]

26 minutes ago, gs77 said:

186 was a special kind of horror. Years later I dug up and read through the gameday thread of that game. Macabre stuff. But while it was the low watermark, 186 was but one of so many pastings we've had at the hands of the cats over the years. 

After two heartbreakingly narrow losses to them in the H&A 2018 season, the 2018 Elimination Final went some way towards healing the wounds of the past, but to put them to the sword in a Prelim when their trading and list management has put them in such a precipitous position, having also beaten them first in a controlled manner early in the season, then in the soul-crushing 44-pt goal-after-the-siren rd23 bonanza, this to me consigns 186 to an historical footnote irrelevant to our current team.

 

 

[Call Me What You Will 691]

As long as Scott and all his followers are feeling humiliated, then yes it does.

[Bleed red and blue 59]

Yes a massive prelim win beats a home and away game any day of the week

Carn dees

[Chook 14,389]

Yes, but only because of the order of the results. If last night were 186 and 11 years ago were a barnstorming prelim win, 186 would be the bigger result. 
 

Lucky we’re trending upward and very happy the cats are tending the opposite way. 

[leave it to deever 15,155]

The margin was really bigger than 83.

Cats had two goals that were from iffy free kicks.

In the final quarter...oliver...trac and Max spent a good deal of time on the bench.

Could have easily been 100 plus and that in a prelim is better.

[leave it to deever 15,155]

That final plus our remarkable comeback at fortress kardinia will make it hard for the gfc to beat us for a long time.

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I just feel sorry for Dean Bailey and always will. 
The players loved him. 
It just shows what a mess the Club was in. 
A mess PJ quickly cleaned out and then the long road back

Attitude…..

The problem was on that day that Geelong just ripped off a festering sore and the pus just oozed out. They were merely the agent who delivered the message. 

Goody talks about how he wants us to be proud of our team. For the vast majority of this year, we have been.

Never have I felt more ashamed of supporting Melbourne than I did on that day (but more so on the day after).

Jimmy being forced to face up to a presser when he should have been elsewhere was absolutely unforgivable.

In addition, Bails got absolutely appalling treatment.

The sponsors boards were taken away from his segment of the presser. I believe he sat with his son (?) instead of club officials before the press pack. Efforts had to be made so he and CS wouldn’t cross paths during the day.

And remember… He had to pay from his own credit card for the players hotel rooms in Geelong in the lead up.

Whatever you thought of Bails and whether he was going to be the right coach, that was deplorable.

And thank goodness we are light years away from that era. And I will leave that there. No need to bring the mood down too much!

Edited September 10, 2021 by Colin B. Flaubert

[Pinball Wizard 272]

Wot’s a “Prelimimary”?

[Smokey 4,112]

Yes it does 

[KLV 1,623]

Yes

[Jaded No More 57,629]

31 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

The margin was really bigger than 83.

Cats had two goals that were from iffy free kicks.

In the final quarter...oliver...trac and Max spent a good deal of time on the bench.

Could have easily been 100 plus and that in a prelim is better.

We also played for a good 10-15 minutes with our best players resting on the bench. Gus went into the gut and Tmac went down back. We literally just cruised home in the last. We could have probably kicked 6 more if we didn’t go into self preservation mode… and rightly so! 

[whitito 187]

There is no such thing as revenge in my books.

However it simply validates where we were to where we are to where we are going.

I think many supporters of other clubs have forgotten how dire our situation was. 

In that era i disregarded the score and wanted to see how we went in the inside 50 totals…(as we often couldn't get it past half way).

I vividly remember going to Christian Salems first game versus Sydney, they were strong and professional and he got his first kick and hit a target. The crowd went crazy.

Not a goal
Not a mark.

A simply skill every other team took for granted.

Enjoy the ride and Go Dees! 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,788]

Causing complete carnage on a national prime time stage in the penultimate game of the season is the ultimate humiliation and i loved every little second.

186 was a political statement by the players against the board, played on a Saturday afternoon on cable tv Foxtel. Darkest day in our clubs history for sure but not witnessed by the masses on Prime time friday night coverage.

Why you ask because we exposed Geelong as a club they are the epitome of a bunch of front running upstarts who have bled the government for funds.

They have needed to keep competing to keep membership money rolling in to pay off their part of the debt, they know it and the football public know it.

Its the complete arrogance in which they operate and utter disregard for their list thinking they could buck the trend and keep topping up to win a flag.