POSTGAME: Rd 23 vs Geelong

[DubDee 20,549]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

So? Well… did we win???!

You promised you’d let us know. I’m still waiting. 😝

😂

we did it! Gawn after the siren. First ever MFC win with a kick after the siren in 150 years. I’m in shock. 
Not going into the office today. I reckon I’ll stay home for a couple of weeks and watch the replay on a loop

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

My last post on this because I've moved on from this game straight onto Brisbane.

But, the 2018 win against the Eagles was the best win I've witnessed. This game has officially overtaken that now.

Go Dees!

[stynewillalwaysbeonthevine 84]

The best win i've ever seen! 44 points down at skilled... are you kidding me! Still on cloud 9. 

Highlights outside of the big 3 (Oliver, Gawn, Lever): 

- Spargo kicking 2 goals for first time this year... had a run of singles all year.. huge 4th quarter. 

- Sparrow exceeded my expectations after costing us dearly with 2 x turnover smothers... took 3 special contested grabs.  

- Brayshaw is tough and gutsy. The way he danced out of traffic in the final 2 mins was class.  

- Viney. Checkside on the left, 9 tackles and a crucial goal assist. Underrated and born for finals. Selfless in his sacrifice of offense to defend for Trac and Oliver. 

- Salem re capturing his early season form. Two good games in a row and building.

All Australian squad announced today... 

Petracca, Gawn, Oliver, Lever are locks. May, Fritsch, Salem to make squad.   

[binman 37,966]

10 hours ago, A F said:

Is this on the AFL site mate? Would love to watch it.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/666764/hey-coach-make-this-rule-crystal-clear-name-a-medal-after-him?videoId=666764&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1629347831001

[Supermercado 2,609]

11 hours ago, layzie said:

@SupermercadoI remember you saying after Touhy’s winner that it knocked out the 2005 win as one of our best because the memory of this loss left such a bad feeling about that ground. Is this repaired now?  :) 

Hope I remembered that right!

Cripes, I don't know what to think anymore.

[Doug Reemer 900]

All the Viney and Brayshaw bashers have gone VERY VERY quiet!

[Guest]

Delete. 

Edited August 23, 2021 by Colin B. Flaubert

[whatwhat say what 18,897]

11 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

All the Viney and Brayshaw bashers have gone VERY VERY quiet!

viney's workrate to lay the shepherd on stanley to allow pickett that little bit more time to deliver the ball over the back of henry to allow fritsch to run into goal was unreal

brayshaw's ability to work back and spoil by creating a 2:1 in our favour across half-back without giving away 'front on contact' was outstanding

work rate from both unbelievably good

[Doug Reemer 900]

7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

viney's workrate to lay the shepherd on stanley to allow pickett that little bit more time to deliver the ball over the back of henry to allow fritsch to run into goal was unreal

brayshaw's ability to work back and spoil by creating a 2:1 in our favour across half-back without giving away 'front on contact' was outstanding

work rate from both unbelievably good

Viney kicked a magnificent Banana.

Brayshaw's composure by hand and foot on the wing was magnificent (all be it his handball was short to Oliver, but I was the right option)

Brayshaw's efforts in the last 2 minutes reminded me of Jones little foot tap to salem that sealed our win against West Coast in 2018 to get into the finals.

[DubDee 20,549]

14 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

viney's workrate to lay the shepherd on stanley to allow pickett that little bit more time to deliver the ball over the back of henry to allow fritsch to run into goal was unreal

brayshaw's ability to work back and spoil by creating a 2:1 in our favour across half-back without giving away 'front on contact' was outstanding

work rate from both unbelievably good

Agreed

the best part of Viney’s game aside from the usual aggression and smashing tackles was that he took the first simple option most of the time. Made a real difference to his game

[WalkingCivilWar 31,375]

Of all the great things Clarrie did on Saturday, one is not getting the praise it deserves… the stacks-on after the siren: boy, did he get some air right there! Hang time was amazing!!!😁

[DeeSpencer 23,113]

22 hours ago, CYB said:

Ok so have watched the replay a few times and am trying to make sense of the second quarter particularly where they kicked 8 consecutive goals. 
 

I’m not prepared to accept that it was an anomaly and for the amount of times Goodwin has said learnings this and learnings that - there has to be a lot of learning there. 
 

2-3 goals were pure @$$ Hawkins and Cameron goal line were massive defensive breakdowns.

There were about 4 goals however that were front of stoppage clearances, which says something about our midfielders. We were absolutely smashing them in Q1 here so not sure how this was able to flip the other way so quickly - then to flip back in Q4. The Lions and Power are a formidable stoppage team so we need to get this right. 
 

I’m also starting to get annoyed with Lingers (shocking I know) but his dinky high , slow kicking into forward 50 are just pointless. I think he needs to either square it up to high HF for somebody else to make the entry or kick it to the top of square if there is not an out number. Usually the ball comes straight back out.

 

Yep I reckon there were 4 big factors:

1. We didn’t have a winner down back. May was battling with Hawkins, Petty with Cameron. And neither Lever nor Gawn could find any intercepts

2. The centre clearances were terrible. Gawn was getting smashed by Stanley. We couldn’t hold a tackle

3. No winners up forward. We couldn’t retain possession. That changed when Petracca played as a CHF in the second half 

4. The backline were panicking and not using the ball. May started switching the ball and opening up space. Suddenly our forwards and mids found room and we got some quick transition. 
 

Definitely agree on Langdon. He’s not getting that extra yard and balancing up. Low and wide or chips out in front are his best go. 

[low flying Robbo 979]

1 hour ago, stynewillalwaysbeonthevine said:

The best win i've ever seen! 44 points down at skilled... are you kidding me! Still on cloud 9. 

Highlights outside of the big 3 (Oliver, Gawn, Lever): 

- Spargo kicking 2 goals for first time this year... had a run of singles all year.. huge 4th quarter. 

- Sparrow exceeded my expectations after costing us dearly with 2 x turnover smothers... took 3 special contested grabs.  

- Brayshaw is tough and gutsy. The way he danced out of traffic in the final 2 mins was class.  

- Viney. Checkside on the left, 9 tackles and a crucial goal assist. Underrated and born for finals. Selfless in his sacrifice of offense to defend for Trac and Oliver. 

- Salem re capturing his early season form. Two good games in a row and building.

All Australian squad announced today... 

Petracca, Gawn, Oliver, Lever are locks. May, Fritsch, Salem to make squad.   

I would love to see the full ground vision for that moment of play. He got out of trouble and had a fair bit of time to deliver forward, but I reckon the Cats had a main in the hole, as he didn't just bomb it long, he gave off a (fairly tired) handball to Clarry who crumbed and gave it back to him, then he bombed it long. But that bit of extra time would have given our boys more chance to eliminate the extra man advantage that geelong had...

[layzie 28,698]

I'll move on tomorrow, still need a bit more of this! 

I remembered on Sat night there was a brief moment in the 3rd quarter where I remembered I think it was the 2011 season where Geelong blew Collingwood out of the water by 90 odd points and trying to tell myself that if that does indeed happen we can still make a GF. I think I even joked in the game day thread about 20 more goals till 186. 

So crazy in this sport how you can go from the wide range of emotions and one minute feeling almost embarrassed by what the tean is serving up to elation an hour later. It's crazy.

[roy11 2,924]

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

So crazy in this sport how you can go from the wide range of emotions and one minute feeling almost embarrassed by what the tean is serving up to elation an hour later. It's crazy.

Message sent by me in the group chat after Hawkins scored the first goal of the 3rd quarter.

"I am now switching to colour commentary in this chat as there is no way we can win so I will stop being serious"

[rufus 916]

Great character shown by the players...not sure how much Geelong taking the foot off contributed...but it's still not easy coming from 44 down to win. It takes a certain attitude and hopefully is a sign of a shifting culture for us. Saturday night was one of the best experiences I've had as a Demon fan.

As Petracca said, it's a new season now. I believe our success will be dictated by what we get out of our somewhat inconsistent senior players...if we get a decent baseline in the contest and some pressure applied by these guys when they have an 'off day', i believe our top end might just be good enough to have a real crack at it. A huge amount of work is in front of these guys and they've earned the chance to show everyone what they're made of.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

3 hours ago, stynewillalwaysbeonthevine said:

The best win i've ever seen! 44 points down at skilled... are you kidding me! Still on cloud 9. 

Highlights outside of the big 3 (Oliver, Gawn, Lever): 

- Spargo kicking 2 goals for first time this year... had a run of singles all year.. huge 4th quarter. 

- Sparrow exceeded my expectations after costing us dearly with 2 x turnover smothers... took 3 special contested grabs.  

- Brayshaw is tough and gutsy. The way he danced out of traffic in the final 2 mins was class.  

- Viney. Checkside on the left, 9 tackles and a crucial goal assist. Underrated and born for finals. Selfless in his sacrifice of offense to defend for Trac and Oliver. 

- Salem re capturing his early season form. Two good games in a row and building.

All Australian squad announced today... 

Petracca, Gawn, Oliver, Lever are locks. May, Fritsch, Salem to make squad.   

Gawn to be Captain....has there been a better Captain anywhere else?

[leave it to deever 15,317]

On 8/22/2021 at 12:18 PM, von said:

The late call on Anb was odd. Only after the ball had fallen loose and we were off did the whistle come. Suspiciously late. Not to mention how out of context the free was beside the other calls of the game. 

Watched the first half of the replay yesterday and the umps really gave a lot of frees in that half to cats that resulted in goals. Most of them were awarded in the middle.

But the three insufficient intents or whatever you call them were way off. Especially Gus's in the last min of the game. What motive could he have had ....we were losing.

Also there were a couple of cats ones that just were not called. Umpiring was very inconsistent and as such very poor.

Also watching the game live I thought we were playing really poorly in that onslaught.

But watching the replay we didn't seem to be doing too much wrong apart from not sticking the odd tackle and poor communication.

Cats just got on top of the centre clearances and got a good run from umps .

Danger was on fire and Hawkins was getting on top. Having dangerfield off in the last qrt for a while really helped us out. He is an awesome player.

Tmac had an absolute shocker but not playing for a while it was understandable. We need him back in some kind of form.

I also thought the umps were not paying htb on cats players going to ground and rolling over on it. Funny I thought no crowd would make a difference with the umps. Maybe it did.😮

Gee Max may have been average early on but wow did he storm home. Full credit to Oliver for kicking true for once. You too Max.

Edited August 23, 2021 by leave it to deever

[Hayden Junt 54]

On 8/21/2021 at 10:22 PM, Blinkybill said:

Has any team come from 44 points down at Geelong and win? Not for many years if at all.

But I had hope late in the third quarter.

West Coast came back from 54 points down in the third quarter to win by 3 points at Kardinia Park in R10 2006.

Sydney came back from 45 down at quarter time in 1976 to win.

 

Given what was on the line and how little time we had to come back, I would say our win was more impressive than both of those.

 

Carn the f--n Dees.  

[leave it to deever 15,317]

44 minutes ago, Hayden Junt said:

how little time we had to come back, I

Funny enough we drew within a kick with ten mins to go in the last.

It seemed in the last five cats were trying to run out the clock.

The irony of Max kicking the winner was supreme but stressful to watch.

He looked nervous.

[Demonstone 19,084]

19 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

He looked nervous.

Not as nervous as me and thousands of other Melbourne fans!

It was the longest, most agonising few seconds of my life until the ball sailed through and the sustained hootin' and hollerin' began in my lounge room.

[Sir Why You Little 34,432]

[Hayden Junt 54]

Some more thoughts after rewatching: 

• Sparrow was fantastic (specifically his mark with 6:01 remaining). Showed his talent, great selection.
• Kozzy is one of the most accurate field kicks I've ever seen, especially for short <25m kicks. Watch his passes, he has a beautiful kicking action and never misses.
• Rhys Stanley not marking up Gawn was the only reason Max got a free mark and shot at goal. Huge mistake from Stanley as he obviously thought Lever was going for the shot.
• Petracca's emotion in his interview on Twitter is pretty emotional stuff. Good luck watching that without shedding a tear.
• Clarry with 26 contested possessions. TWENTY SIX. Agree with Seraph, I think he is the best midfielder this club has ever had.

Edited August 23, 2021 by Hayden Junt

[Dee Zephyr 17,425]

Just home from work and asked the kids how remote learning went today. 
Their answer:

” Very good Dad, our kicking was elite in the last quarter” 

[von 1,217]

2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Watched the first half of the replay yesterday and the umps really gave a lot of frees in that half to cats that resulted in goals. Most of them were awarded in the middle.

But the three insufficient intents or whatever you call them were way off. Especially Gus's in the last min of the game. What motive could he have had ....we were losing.

Also there were a couple of cats ones that just were not called. Umpiring was very inconsistent and as such very poor.

Also watching the game live I thought we were playing really poorly in that onslaught.

But watching the replay we didn't seem to be doing too much wrong apart from not sticking the odd tackle and poor communication.

Cats just got on top of the centre clearances and got a good run from umps .

Danger was on fire and Hawkins was getting on top. Having dangerfield off in the last qrt for a while really helped us out. He is an awesome player.

Tmac had an absolute shocker but not playing for a while it was understandable. We need him back in some kind of form.

I also thought the umps were not paying htb on cats players going to ground and rolling over on it. Funny I thought no crowd would make a difference with the umps. Maybe it did.😮

Gee Max may have been average early on but wow did he storm home. Full credit to Oliver for kicking true for once. You too Max.

During that 20 minute period they didn’t have a single bounce of the ball/drop of the ball/ umpiring decision go against them. They had many umpiring decisions in that period help set up goals too. Every time the ball fell out of a pack it fell right in their hands. We were constantly wrong footed or slipping over. You get a few of them a year and they were able to capitalise on it because they’re good. They won’t do that again all finals and I doubt we will have that happen against us again this year. Even if it happened again they might kick four, but eight was nuts. I would think everyone has been on both ends of it playing sport at any level. Sometimes you get a golden run and sometimes you’re left standing there looking stupid thinking I’m not doing much wrong here.