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Rising star this week well done Bowes🥰

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I love this kid already. We have kept him nice and secret and fresh for the finals.What a brilliant player he is going to be for us over the next decade and a half. Well done Jake! I was coach of the1

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Jesus Jason Taylor is certainly churning them out! Well done Bowser 👏

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Not sure if there is a Separate Rising Star 2022 thread, sorry if there is.

I was looking at the stats of some of the Rising Star players so far this season, and then out of interest went to see what the odds were on sportsbet were for the 7 nominees so far.

  • Daicos ($1.90)
  • Horne-Francis ($4)
  • Nic Martin ($6)
  • Rachele ($9)
  • Newcombe ($12)
  • Ginnivan ($15)
  • Bowey ($15)

Not meaning to take the topic into gambling, or advocating anyone places a bet, just thought he'd be better placed. Not sure if my MFC bias is pumping him up too much? Are the others more favored as they play "sexy positions'?

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1 minute ago, roy11 said:

Not sure if there is a Separate Rising Star 2022 thread, sorry if there is.

I was looking at the stats of some of the Rising Star players so far this season, and then out of interest went to see what the odds were on sportsbet were for the 7 nominees so far.

  • Daicos ($1.90)
  • Horne-Francis ($4)
  • Nic Martin ($6)
  • Rachele ($9)
  • Newcombe ($12)
  • Ginnivan ($15)
  • Bowey ($15)

Not meaning to take the topic into gambling, or advocating anyone places a bet, just thought he'd be better placed. Not sure if my MFC bias is pumping him up too much? Are the others more favored as they play "sexy positions'?

nah, probably coz he's short and a ginger 🤣

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27 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Not sure if there is a Separate Rising Star 2022 thread, sorry if there is.

I was looking at the stats of some of the Rising Star players so far this season, and then out of interest went to see what the odds were on sportsbet were for the 7 nominees so far.

  • Daicos ($1.90)
  • Horne-Francis ($4)
  • Nic Martin ($6)
  • Rachele ($9)
  • Newcombe ($12)
  • Ginnivan ($15)
  • Bowey ($15)

Not meaning to take the topic into gambling, or advocating anyone places a bet, just thought he'd be better placed. Not sure if my MFC bias is pumping him up too much? Are the others more favored as they play "sexy positions'?

Daicos is favourite mainly because his name is Daicos - simple as that  

 

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Daicos is favourite mainly because his name is Daicos - simple as that  

 

And he plays for Collingwood. Betting odds also reflect the bookmakers' liability. Hence, because Daicos is a Collingwood player, the bookies will be holding a lot of money from Collingwood supporters, because there are just so many of them. 

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58 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Not sure if there is a Separate Rising Star 2022 thread, sorry if there is.

I was looking at the stats of some of the Rising Star players so far this season, and then out of interest went to see what the odds were on sportsbet were for the 7 nominees so far.

  • Daicos ($1.90)
  • Horne-Francis ($4)
  • Nic Martin ($6)
  • Rachele ($9)
  • Newcombe ($12)
  • Ginnivan ($15)
  • Bowey ($15)

Not meaning to take the topic into gambling, or advocating anyone places a bet, just thought he'd be better placed. Not sure if my MFC bias is pumping him up too much? Are the others more favored as they play "sexy positions'?

It comes down to the opinion of the 'judges' so the players' status, club, name recognition, playing style and media profile all feature in the decision being made.  Bowey is a tough, yet skillful small defender who would sits behind a huge list of Melbourne players that the media would want to talk about before him.

I'd think he'd pick up some 'safe' 1 and 2 votes and finish top 5.

 

 

(Then win another flag)

 

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1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

nah, probably coz he's short and a ginger 🤣

I hope you're a ginger, otherwise that's racist 🙂

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Daicos is favourite mainly because his name is Daicos - simple as that  

 

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I can't really see him winning the rising star from some young gun midfielders, but i think if the MFC got to pick from that list we'd probably take Bowey.. 

He's the type of kid that just plays his role really well for 250-300 games and probably doesn't really get the accolades he deserves until towards the end of his career. 

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Still a long way to go, but it would take a miracle for Daicos to lose as he plays in a really friendly position. Bowey somewhat the same, but he has to defend. 
 

one injury and it’s wide open. Bowey will have the stats to go with him, and as posters have said - get a heap of 3, 2 and 1 votes. I’d love him to end up with a podium finish. 

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12 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I can't really see him winning the rising star from some young gun midfielders, but i think if the MFC got to pick from that list we'd probably take Bowey.. 

He's the type of kid that just plays his role really well for 250-300 games and probably doesn't really get the accolades he deserves until towards the end of his career. 

If Bowey

was placed in the centre and played a Sam Mitchell type game he would challenge the best no doubt. Only debit on Sam is I can't remember him ever kicking left foot yet.! 

I am hdppy him playing where it's best fit our team as he has  never let us down yet . 

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If Bowey

was placed in the centre and played a Sam Mitchell type game he would challenge the best no doubt. Only debit on Sam is I can't remember him ever kicking left foot yet.! 

I am hdppy him playing where it's best fit our team as he has  never let us down yet . 

Should be 

"Omly debit compared to Sam"

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18 hours ago, roy11 said:

Not sure if there is a Separate Rising Star 2022 thread, sorry if there is.

I was looking at the stats of some of the Rising Star players so far this season, and then out of interest went to see what the odds were on sportsbet were for the 7 nominees so far.

  • Daicos ($1.90)
  • Horne-Francis ($4)
  • Nic Martin ($6)
  • Rachele ($9)
  • Newcombe ($12)
  • Ginnivan ($15)
  • Bowey ($15)

Not meaning to take the topic into gambling, or advocating anyone places a bet, just thought he'd be better placed. Not sure if my MFC bias is pumping him up too much? Are the others more favored as they play "sexy positions'?

David King was asked a few weeks back about Bowey possibly win the Rising Star.  His response  "can a half back flanker win it?"  This backs up your point. 

Bowey is already a very good and consistent player in a great team. I agree with others here that I would choose him above all other Rising Stars to be in the Melbourne side right now. The fear is judges will see the others best highlights package and think that happens every game. It doesn't. 

Bowey plays like a 10 year player, full of poise and class, week in week out.

He is an important cog in a Premiership team, not a sparodic, flashy player in a middle to bottom side. 

I know what I value most.

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19 hours ago, roy11 said:

Not sure if there is a Separate Rising Star 2022 thread, sorry if there is.

I was looking at the stats of some of the Rising Star players so far this season, and then out of interest went to see what the odds were on sportsbet were for the 7 nominees so far.

  • Daicos ($1.90)
  • Horne-Francis ($4)
  • Nic Martin ($6)
  • Rachele ($9)
  • Newcombe ($12)
  • Ginnivan ($15)
  • Bowey ($15)

Not meaning to take the topic into gambling, or advocating anyone places a bet, just thought he'd be better placed. Not sure if my MFC bias is pumping him up too much? Are the others more favored as they play "sexy positions'?

There's some very good talent in there ahead of Bowey, though I'd rate him higher than the meeting odds place him. Horne-Francis is over-rated based on draft pick thus far compared to output of others there. Daicos and Martin in particular have been next level good and a clear level above the rest of the pack. I'd rate Bowey after them in 3rd spot. Very strong crop this year though. All those players there have had a big impact at their clubs and on games, Ginnivan has been a match winner on the big stage too.

19 hours ago, Sydee said:

Daicos is favourite mainly because his name is Daicos - simple as that  

Absurd comment. He's averaging 25 disposals a game to start his career and has already had some BOG games. He's probably having the best debut season from any midfielder in my lifetime. Others up there are Buckley, Selwood, Judd, Oliver (more his second season due to now abolished sub rule), and statistically he's well ahead of them all. He obviously gets more attention due to his family name, but take the blinkers off and acknowledge his output. He's having an incredible debut season and looks set to become an elite midfielder of the competition for many years to come. Barring injury, he will rightly win the Rising Star award no contest.

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I would give Horne-Francis bonus points by the way he flew the flag for his team last week. 

Didn't flinch.  Great leadership, character and tenacity. 

Hopefully the award is assessed beyond stats and flair. 

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I reckon the Rising Star is an award the AFL have created to maintain hope for crap teams with high draft picks. 

That's why Jacko's win last year was all the more extraordinary. I put his win down to some highly visually spectacular acts (strong contested pack marks, goal assists from picking the ball up below his knees etc). Poor Bowser is an equally worthy recipient but won't win for general excellence alone. 

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20 hours ago, roy11 said:

Not sure if there is a Separate Rising Star 2022 thread, sorry if there is.

I was looking at the stats of some of the Rising Star players so far this season, and then out of interest went to see what the odds were on sportsbet were for the 7 nominees so far.

  • Daicos ($1.90)
  • Horne-Francis ($4)
  • Nic Martin ($6)
  • Rachele ($9)
  • Newcombe ($12)
  • Ginnivan ($15)
  • Bowey ($15)

Not meaning to take the topic into gambling, or advocating anyone places a bet, just thought he'd be better placed. Not sure if my MFC bias is pumping him up too much? Are the others more favored as they play "sexy positions'?

Bowey is over-the-odds but the problem with him winning is the  criteria used for this award. OK, you have to be nominated as a weekly winner during the season which he has been already (and you can't be nominated more than once so that means there will be a pool of 23). I don't know the process employed each week but I'm sure that the whole panel doesn't watch every game played for that week. Regardless, it's just a panel of 'experts' that choose on a 5, 4, 3 , 2, 1 basis for the whole season. It's not done on a cumulative  basis each week so it will be hugely influenced by media coverage, rather than an objective appraisal of the rising star across 22 games. If it was like the Brownlow you would assume Ginnivan has taken a lot of votes off Daicos already this season, giving a lot more chance to Horne-Francis for instance, but it won't work like that. Following is a list of the experts used last year. Do former players really have any special expertise?

https://www.afl.com.au/news/670647/action-jackson-young-demon-crowned-rising-star/ 

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Bowey is over-the-odds but the problem with him winning is the  criteria used for this award. OK, you have to be nominated as a weekly winner during the season which he has been already (and you can't be nominated more than once so that means there will be a pool of 23). I don't know the process employed each week but I'm sure that the whole panel doesn't watch every game played for that week. Regardless, it's just a panel of 'experts' that choose on a 5, 4, 3 , 2, 1 basis for the whole season. It's not done on a cumulative  basis each week so it will be hugely influenced by media coverage, rather than an objective appraisal of the rising star across 22 games. If it was like the Brownlow you would assume Ginnivan has taken a lot of votes off Daicos already this season, giving a lot more chance to Horne-Francis for instance, but it won't work like that. Following is a list of the experts used last year. Do former players really have any special expertise?

https://www.afl.com.au/news/670647/action-jackson-young-demon-crowned-rising-star/ 

Yep I’ve got a whole 4 bucks on him at 15/1

Not holding my breath but believe he deserves it

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