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POSTGAME: Rd 21 vs West Coast


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53 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Every game this round frees about equal. 28-16 Eagles way.

The last 15 minutes 10-2.

Well done Dees you beat 21.

Great effort Dees, back on top.

This.

i hate this stadium and it’s self entitled WA supporters.

How can “professional” umpires be influenced by the baying crowd? How?

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2 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

Yeah, his role has to change I think. A better option than Sparrow, will earn more possessions and similar disposal quality. I am concerned that after 2 weeks break and on the back of pretty ordinary form he may not perform at all (let me be wrong, please). The great thing about Harmes tonight was his burst/movement to space and creation of an outside option for Trac and Clarrie. Viney does not do that, thinks differently, and doesn't have the class to hit Harmes on the break. It's a problem for mine.

Yeah, I'm a firm believer in the Viney as a mid/forward role, especially if Harmes can keep his form in the middle. Agree that Harmes' burst helps, but not getting ahead of myself in expecting it more often yet.

 

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Just now, Webber said:

Makes me laugh to think that if he has a quiet one next week, there’ll be those calling for him to be dropped. Nibbler would be one of the first 10 selected every week. Unquestionably.  Nobody does what he does across 4 quarters. Ain’t always pretty, but it is always valued by those who matter. 

Well said Webber, unfortunately, those type of dees fans will always exist, he's been so consistent this year though I don't think he'll be going anywhere. 

So odd to think he was publicly on the trade table last year and no one wanted him. He's proved everyone wrong and its so good to see.

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Just now, Lord Nev said:

Yeah, I'm a firm believer in the Viney as a mid/forward role, especially if Harmes can keep his form in the middle. Agree that Harmes' burst helps, but not getting ahead of myself in expecting it more often yet.

 

Yep, I might be getting a bit ahead of myself haha. Harmes might have a shocker against the Crows next week and I'll be crying to get Vines back in the guts. 🤣

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56 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Nah I've got zero time for this attitude.

An unprecedented 30 minute break when we have the game entirely under control, in hostile territory, forcing West Coast to change their entire attitude, after a week in quarantine, off the back of a day last weekend on a plane.

This is a win to savour, not to complain about.

Yes, the club and the players and coaching staff have shown great resilience and fortitude over this period. All good pointers to a successful finals campaign. 
 

Bring it on - can’t wait!

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9 minutes ago, Pates said:

EDIT: Had to also mention Gawn’s miss from dead in front. For a ruck man that is actually pretty decent at field kicking his set shots are a complete lottery. 

Honestly think they should start again with his left foot. He strikes them pure on the left. His right is a bunch of nonsense, spinning the ball around, arcing out and then praying he gets the big draw on it.

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Just now, Boots and all said:

Yep, I might be getting a bit ahead of myself haha. Harmes might have a shocker against the Crows next week and I'll be crying to get Vines back in the guts. 🤣

Haha yeah never know with old Harmesy, but I reckon you're on the money in that the best chance is Harmes in the middle, and for mine that means Viney more as a mid/forward than in the guts.

Means we can get that burst from Harmes and the forward tackling pressure from Viney.

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1 minute ago, Webber said:

It IS the pinnacle of our season so far. By definition. 

I’d argue the pinnacle of our season so far was our undefeated run to start the year.

I’ve been on many journeys with this club,  [censored] years of the 70’s & 80’s, the run in 87, the GF in 88, the journey of beating the Hawks twice in 2 weeks in 1990 (basically unheard of back then, only to lose to the Eagles after having a week off), 1994 with arguably our greatest ever forward line, 2000, seeing us going 14-4 then not winning another game in 04, the drought breaking 2018.

There’s only 1 journey I want to be on and I hope like hell it is the journey I’m on this year. We have not been in  a better position to achieve it for a very long time. When you’re aiming for the gold medal are you happy settling for the silver or bronze. Maybe you might be satisfied with that (no problem if you are), but I’m all or nothing.

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Where’s Dr D(rivel), the Oracle of Dross, the Demon Doomsayer, he who reverentially refers to himself in the third person, firing his scattergun of prophetic excrement all over the forum walls with narcissistic pleasure? 

Check your very well-researched ladder predictor, Drivel. No vindication for you after all. Try again next year. Or, better still, don’t.

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Just now, Ben E said:

Where’s Dr D(rivel), the Oracle of Dross, the Demon Doomsayer, he who reverentially refers to himself in the third person, firing his scattergun of prophetic excrement all over the forum walls with narcissistic pleasure? 

Check your very well-researched ladder predictor, Drivel. No vindication for you after all. Try again next year. Or, better still, don’t.

Well said.

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4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Haha yeah never know with old Harmesy, but I reckon you're on the money in that the best chance is Harmes in the middle, and for mine that means Viney more as a mid/forward than in the guts.

Means we can get that burst from Harmes and the forward tackling pressure from Viney.

Oliver handball to Trac handball to Harmes who is in space works!  (But need to see it for another week at least) 
 

Viney getting in trac + Oliver way, and then opposition clears the ball absolutely kills us. Viney should never be in the middle - defensive pressure fwd only. 
 

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1 minute ago, Ben E said:

Where’s Dr D(rivel), the Oracle of Dross, the Demon Doomsayer, he who reverentially refers to himself in the third person, firing his scattergun of prophetic excrement all over the forum walls with narcissistic pleasure? 

Check your very well-researched ladder predictor, Drivel. No vindication for you after all. Try again next year. Or, better still, don’t.

I think he slunk away when Luke "He'll never be a forward" Jackson kicked 4 goals last week...

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13 minutes ago, Nicko said:

Last time we won 15 games (home and away) was 1958!!!

hmm i don’t think so. off the top of my head i’m pretty sure we won 16 in 1990. but there ARE still 2 games to go and either way it’s a great accomplishment. 

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8 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I’ve been on many journeys with this club,  [censored] years of the 70’s & 80’s, the run in 87, the GF in 88, the journey of beating the Hawks twice in 2 weeks in 1990 (basically unheard of back then, only to lose to the Eagles after having a week off), 1994 with arguably our greatest ever forward line, 2000, seeing us going 14-4 then not winning another game in 04, the drought breaking 2018.

Strangely enough, those of us over 40 or so have all been on that journey, not just you. Your comment about being happy with silver or bronze is completely missing the point. If you can’t enjoy the ‘now’, then you’re ignoring the whole premise upon which the ‘gold’ even exists.

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I thought we were in trouble early without another tall target, because Brown was marking everything, but up the ground. He had little to kick to. We needed a bit more chaos and wet weather football going to exploit their weakness at ground level. Once we got chaos and the ball on the deck, our forward half game looked really dangerous.

There's still a bit to tidy up around stoppages. Wowee, Kozzy was poor. Zero tackles and that Yeo clearance at the start of the 2nd or 3rd was woefully defended. You could see it coming a mile away. The very next centre bounce, Harmes set up perfectly to defend. I don't think Kozzy was in there again after that.

Some really big positives in the game though...

Brown continues to develop in our system.

Bowey looks great and will be better for that turnover that cost us a goal. He'll learn. His ball use and pace is brilliant and if Hunt is out, we've got a ready made replacement that we can use there and bring Hibberd back.

Aside from an early turn over, I thought Harmes played just about his best game for the year. Again, as soon as Viney comes out, he just looks like a different player to me. They can't get in each other's way if Viney isn't playing. #playvineyforward

ANB in his 100th was incredible. I can't remember him making an error and his pressure and ball use was super. Well done, Alex.

Clarry. That's all.

Max seemed to have better connection with his mids tonight. Not a heap of hit outs to advantage, but those he got were pure and we got some good looks from centre bounce. 

Petty's first three quarters were really solid. I think he was outmarked once by Kennedy in that time. In the last quarter after the resumption, he was outmarked a few times. A young player though whose focus may have drifted and to be fair, they were having to defend repeat entries.

I thought the Melksham selection was a very good one. It helped that Hurn went down, because it meant Melksham could play essentially a negating role on McGovern. He gave away a few free kicks doing this, but McGovern didn't have his usual influence and he kicked his two goals.

I'd be tempted to drop Fritsch for McDonald next week. I thought his game was horrible and how Vanders gets a game I'll never know. 

Other than that, I'll take the 4 points and run.

We owe Adelaide a smashing next week....

 

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29 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I definitely feel the stop in play due to the thunder and lighting hindered our momentum with a 32 point advantage.

I think we had the first three scoring opportunities after that break. Kick three goals and it's a nine goal margin and the Weagles would have turned their toes up.

Don't wanna sound like Dr D. but set shot kicking is going to cost us big time one day.

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25 minutes ago, Pates said:

It’s (the goal kicking) disgraceful overall, not just in isolation of today. I’m bloody stoked with the performance and the win today, even with the fade out in extremely unusual conditions, I’m bloody proud of the boys. But why should I be happy about the FACT that yet again we failed to execute a fundamental skill of the game? We do that, ie Jackson slots his set shot or Petracca knocks out that shot at the start of the restart and it’s game bloody over. But we allowed West Coast to stay in the game, in the same way we allowed Adelaide to stay in the game, and Hawthorn. It also kicked us out of the game against the Dogs  

I’m super happy with the result tonight, be we need to effing work on our finishing off good work. It’s cost us in the H&A season, will you be content with it costing us in the finals?

I agree the delay helped WC, no doubt on that. 

EDIT: Had to also mention Gawn’s miss from dead in front. For a ruck man that is actually pretty decent at field kicking his set shots are a complete lottery. 

Look I don't disagree but ill worry about that tomorrow not right after a win on the road like that that's sees us reclaim top spot with 2 rounds to go

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3 minutes ago, A F said:

tempted to drop Fritsch for McDonald next week

Not a temptation the selectors will even remotely consider, and for good reason, right there on the competition’s goal kicking ladder. 

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