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On 8/6/2021 at 11:57 PM, whitito said:

Six weeks is a slap on the wrist. This is disgraceful. There is talk of self reporting   , however that is hollow as Tex said it without a thought and this is the problem.

If the official doesn’t say anything …Tex goes about his business and the attitudes to race remain unchallenged.

The AFL must increase the penalty. I don’t think 22 weeks is unreasonable. 

What did Tex say? 

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6 hours ago, deanox said:

 

I think anyone disparaging baby boomers isn't actually being ageist. Baby Boomer is a statement of mind. If it doesn't apply to you, it isn't aimed at you.

https://www.theoccidentalnews.com/opinions/2019/11/19/ok-boomer-attacks-a-mindset-not-a-generation/2899726

That's an opinion piece from an alt-left writer.

 

Toilet paper.

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8 hours ago, deanox said:

 

I think anyone disparaging baby boomers isn't actually being ageist. Baby Boomer is a statement of mind. If it doesn't apply to you, it isn't aimed at you.

https://www.theoccidentalnews.com/opinions/2019/11/19/ok-boomer-attacks-a-mindset-not-a-generation/2899726

Thanks. An interesting take on the term. Most things are a statement of mind issue.  

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18 hours ago, rjay said:

Unfortunately I suspect the small, vocal minority might be a bit larger than we think.

Many might not speak out but it's the underlying thoughts that bother me, Tex just spoke to probably what was always on his mind.

There will always be a minority that does the wrong thing.  Just because we outlaw domestic violence & tell everyone to stop doing it doesn't mean it will go away completely.

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I find it encouraging that the vast majority of posters on this site and people in general have called out Walker's comment for the vile racism that it demonstrates. 

Notwithstanding a minority of Neanderthal outliers, it seems that the message is finally getting through.

It's not that long ago that people making a stand against such behaviour would be labelled "woke" or "virtue signalling", as if caring about others and supporting social justice were bad things deserving of ridicule and criticism.

 

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On 8/6/2021 at 6:20 PM, Smokey said:

Tex walker can go and get ******

He already has been; will never play another game for the Crows ... if he does, then his sentiments at Adelaide FC are more widespread than currently known. 

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3 hours ago, faultydet said:

That's an opinion piece from an alt-left writer.

 

Toilet paper.

What a weird comment.

Alt-right is a phrase made up by neo-nazis to describe themselves.

There is no such thing as "Alt-left", it's a phrase made up by centre right "alt right" sympathisers as a way of trying to shift the Overton window further right by claiming extremists on the left are of equal threat as those in the right. They aren't, as demonstrated by the fact that no security or intelligence agency are worried about them.

 

But that isn't relevant here. What is relevant is that when young people rag on baby boomers, they aren't ragging on an age group, they are ragging on people who emulate and embody a particular state of mind. Regardless of who wrote that article, it served as a reference for this particular point.

 

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8 hours ago, deanox said:

 

I think anyone disparaging baby boomers isn't actually being ageist. Baby Boomer is a statement of mind. If it doesn't apply to you, it isn't aimed at you.

https://www.theoccidentalnews.com/opinions/2019/11/19/ok-boomer-attacks-a-mindset-not-a-generation/2899726

nobody mentioned ageism......except you

op made a gratuitous comment linking racism to boomers

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3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

nobody mentioned ageism......except you

op made a gratuitous comment linking racism to boomers

Ok so if no one mentioned ageism, why did you take offence at linking racism to boomers?

If you are concerned that OP was saying "all people of a certain age are racist" then there it is.

If you don't think OP was relating it to age, what was your problem with their statement?

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11 minutes ago, deanox said:

Ok so if no one mentioned ageism, why did you take offence at linking racism to boomers?

If you are concerned that OP was saying "all people of a certain age are racist" then there it is.

If you don't think OP was relating it to age, what was your problem with their statement?

a boomer is not an ageist thing..... it's a stupid arbitrary so-called "generation" label.

i've been a boomer all my life even when i was a toddler so i fail to see being a boomer, in itself, as ageist 

and.....i explained why i took offence, just that you seem blinded or just stubborn

p.s. whilst i saw it as unnecessary and offensive i wasn't about to lose any sleep over it

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2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

a boomer is not an ageist thing..... it's a stupid arbitrary so-called "generation" label.

i've been a boomer all my life even when i was a toddler so i fail to see being a boomer, in itself, as ageist 

and.....i explained why i took offence, just that you seem blinded or just stubborn

p.s. whilst i saw it as unnecessary and offensive i wasn't about to lose any sleep over it

Imagine turning a thread about racism into being offended about being called a 'boomer'.

 

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3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Imagine turning a thread about racism into being offended about being called a 'boomer'.

Didn't they just win Olympic Bronze 🙂

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Eddie Betts in the W.A Today

“As AFL players, we are educated on this every single year. Every single year, we go through racial vilification awareness. So every single player knows it. Every single person that gets drafted knows it.”

This is what I don’t understand about Walker’s comments. He has been privileged enough to have more information about indigenous disadvantage than probably 98% of the population. He has played with and against and, no doubt, been friends with many indigenous players since being crafted as a 17 yo. 
He has been lucky to play alongside (literally) one of the great players and roles models in Eddie Betts.

How Taylor can still hold these racist views is astounding 

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3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Imagine turning a thread about racism into being offended about being called a 'boomer'.

 

totally missed the point, nev

i was NOT offended at being called a boomer

i was offended as being a boomer and gratuitously linked to racism

you really need to lift your comprehension skills

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2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

totally missed the point, nev

i was NOT offended at being called a boomer

i was offended as being a boomer and gratuitously linked to racism

you really need to lift your comprehension skills

Thoughts and prayers.

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13 hours ago, DurriePirate said:

Agreed, less of a vocal minority and more a case of Baby Boomer era majority populous that don't have the desire to educate and grow with the times.

I think we've all given him too much of our valuable time and energy that should be focussed on more positive endeavours like the mighty Red and Blue!! 

 

12 hours ago, daisycutter said:

hey, that baby boomer comment is plain offensive and unwarranted. more your prejudice showing.

 

11 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Kevin Rudd is a baby boomer and the only politician, so far, with th guts to do a Federal Parliament apology to Stolen Generation.

Wer'e all not the same.

'Durrie', if only it was a case of 'Boomers', then when we die out it there would be no more racism and the world would be a better place. I know people of all generational segments with less than optimal views on race...

Unfortunately as Tex just proved, it's not only the problem of one generation.

The bigger problem is the attitudes passed down through generations, from family to family...this cycle is very hard to break.

Anyway, as you say...enough of Tex and onward to Monday night and beyond.

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48 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

Eddie Betts in the W.A Today

“As AFL players, we are educated on this every single year. Every single year, we go through racial vilification awareness. So every single player knows it. Every single person that gets drafted knows it.”

This is what I don’t understand about Walker’s comments. He has been privileged enough to have more information about indigenous disadvantage than probably 98% of the population. He has played with and against and, no doubt, been friends with many indigenous players since being crafted as a 17 yo. 
He has been lucky to play alongside (literally) one of the great players and roles models in Eddie Betts.

How Taylor can still hold these racist views is astounding 

I'm surprised that you are surprised.

For many people, no amount of training or education on the effects of racist comments would ever change their opinions.

Life experiences always last longer than a training program.

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52 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

Eddie Betts in the W.A Today

“As AFL players, we are educated on this every single year. Every single year, we go through racial vilification awareness. So every single player knows it. Every single person that gets drafted knows it.”

This is what I don’t understand about Walker’s comments. He has been privileged enough to have more information about indigenous disadvantage than probably 98% of the population. He has played with and against and, no doubt, been friends with many indigenous players since being crafted as a 17 yo. 
He has been lucky to play alongside (literally) one of the great players and roles models in Eddie Betts.

How Taylor can still hold these racist views is astounding 

Eddie Betts = all class. 
I love how he weighed in on this issue by a simple yet powerful message written in texta on his wrist tape. “No room for racism”

He’s Class personified. 

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1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

totally missed the point, nev

i was NOT offended at being called a boomer

i was offended as being a boomer and gratuitously linked to racism

you really need to lift your comprehension skills

If this is the case though, what I said should have put it at ease.

It isn't about the age group (or generation if i want to be semantic). Boomer has become synonymous for a state of mind, regardless of age/generation.

If it does apply to you because that isn't how you behave, then there was nothing to be offended about. But if you keep insisting you were offended maybe the label sticks?

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1 minute ago, deanox said:

If this is the case though, what I said should have put it at ease.

It isn't about the age group (or generation if i want to be semantic). Boomer has become synonymous for a state of mind, regardless of age/generation.

If it does apply to you because that isn't how you behave, then there was nothing to be offended about. But if you keep insisting you were offended maybe the label sticks?

really deanox, this convo has gone on long enough.

as i said before i'm not losing sleep over it. i'm pretty thick skinned and i didn't think the op was personally targeting me.

i just felt obliged enough to pull up the original op  for stereotyping a group unfairly with racism 

can we leave it at that?

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4 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I find it encouraging that the vast majority of posters on this site and people in general have called out Walker's comment for the vile racism that it demonstrates. 

Notwithstanding a minority of Neanderthal outliers, it seems that the message is finally getting through.

It's not that long ago that people making a stand against such behaviour would be labelled "woke" or "virtue signalling", as if caring about others and supporting social justice were bad things deserving of ridicule and criticism.

 

Well there is quiet a difference between those calling for an appropriate penalty for his comments and the lynch mob calling for blood and wanting to destroy Walker. There are plenty of the latter on Demonland.

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16 hours ago, DurriePirate said:

Agreed, less of a vocal minority and more a case of Baby Boomer era majority populous that don't have the desire to educate and grow with the times.

I think we've all given him too much of our valuable time and energy that should be focussed on more positive endeavours like the mighty Red and Blue!! 

Whoa there. "Baby boomer majority populous"? Does that actually mean something? Aren't you guilty of making the sort of gross generalisations that create bias and prejudice? If you're suggesting that 'Baby Boomers' are racist, uneducated and afraid of change, you're showing a clear predilection for swallowing populist propaganda. We 'Boomers' might be a lot of things,  but to suggest that we are a racist majority is truly offensive and plain ignorant. I'm getting a bit tired of this inane commentary on a generation that took the opportunities available to them and made something of themselves without waiting for someone else to give it to them.

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3 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

Eddie Betts in the W.A Today

“As AFL players, we are educated on this every single year. Every single year, we go through racial vilification awareness. So every single player knows it. Every single person that gets drafted knows it.”

This is what I don’t understand about Walker’s comments. He has been privileged enough to have more information about indigenous disadvantage than probably 98% of the population. He has played with and against and, no doubt, been friends with many indigenous players since being crafted as a 17 yo. 
He has been lucky to play alongside (literally) one of the great players and roles models in Eddie Betts.

How Taylor can still hold these racist views is astounding 

I guess no amount of training, education, indoctrination or whatever term one uses, can necessarily alter ingrained thoughts … but at very least it should make it very clear not to express them outside of their own mind (or even clique).   There still is, after all, freedom of thought. 

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