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The Demonland Podcast is LIVE Tonight 12/7 @ 8:30pm featuring @george_on_the_outer, @binman, @Supermercado & @Demonland

We'll be chatting with @Supermercado about his latest book The Last Hurrah as well as discussing our glorious on the road win in Port Adelaide that propelled us back to the Top of the Ladder.

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question for the crew: last time we had a significant gap between games (10 days between the bears win and the queens birthday loss) we seemed to come out 'flat' from the get go - do you think that the thursday evening til saturday twilight (9 days) poses a threat to our ability to start strongly?

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11 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

question for the crew: last time we had a significant gap between games (10 days between the bears win and the queens birthday loss) we seemed to come out 'flat' from the get go - do you think that the thursday evening til saturday twilight (9 days) poses a threat to our ability to start strongly?

Didn't see this until well after the show. You should have jumped in the chat room to ask.

My answer: It's a strong possibility. I'm worried.

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14 minutes ago, RedsoxMan said:

Brian Wilson was a very good recruit from another club

Won a Brownlow 

As did Peter Moore

Edit: shame he finished 13 games of qualifying Darcy to be eligible for father-son for us as well as the filth*

*he was never going to 'nominate' us

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Absolutely loved this pod, forwarded on to a number of non-MFC friends who have also enjoyed it.

Brilliant content as always, a fixture on my weekly pod rotation.

 

Many thanks again all

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As promised on the podcast here are my rankings of imported players since 1980. The criteria is plucked from thin air. Hopefully I haven't missed anyone. Probably a bit of recency bias at the top but that's what happens when most of the last 40 years have been a disaster.

  1. Jeff White
  2. Brian Wilson
  3. Darren Bennett
  4. Brent Moloney
  5. Anthony Ingerson
  6. Steven May*
  7. Clint Bizzell
  8. Ed Langdon*
  9. Jake Lever*
  10. Peter Moore
  11. Shane Zantuck
  12. Bernie Vince
  13. Michael Hibberd*
  14. Marcus Seecamp
  15. Peter Rohde
  16. Brent Crosswell
  17. Shaun Smith
  18. Jake Melksham*
  19. Jeff Garlett
  20. Kelvin Templeton
  21. Daniel Cross
  22. Jordan Lewis
  23. Peter Vardy
  24. Ben Holland
  25. Dom Tyson
  26. Jamie Shanahan
  27. Sam Frost
  28. Paul Johnson
  29. Adam Tomlinson*
  30. Jeff Hilton
  31. Cameron Clayton
  32. Steven Clark
  33. Byron Pickett
  34. David Flintoff
  35. Paul Bryce
  36. Chris Heffernan
  37. Mitch Clark
  38. Phil Read
  39. Matthew Collins
  40. Chris Dawes
  41. Tomas Bugg
  42. Heritier Lumumba
  43. Dean Irving
  44. Craig Ellis
  45. Michael Pickering
  46. Alastair Clarkson
  47. Paul Payne
  48. Doug Koop
  49. Bill Nettlefold
  50. Shannon Byrnes
  51. James Sellar
  52. Greg Doyle
  53. Phil Carman
  54. Scott Chisholm
  55. Craig Turley
  56. Dean Chiron
  57. Andy Goodwin
  58. Ben Kennedy
  59. Ben Newton
  60. Rod Owen
  61. Phil Pinnell
  62. Nigel Kol
  63. Rodney Wright
  64. Harley Bennell
  65. Viv Michie
  66. Robert Pyman
  67. Shannon Motlop
  68. Braydon Preuss
  69. Craig Nettelbeck
  70. Corey Wagner
  71. Xavier Tanner
  72. James Cook
  73. Vin Catoggio
  74. Ross Funcke
  75. Mitch Brown*
  76. Aidan Riley
  77. Michael Young
  78. Ben Brown*
  79. David Rodan
  80. Les Parish
  81. Darryl Cox
  82. David Grant
  83. Adrian Campbell
  84. Steven Pitt
  85. John Meesen
  86. Stuart Cameron
  87. Gary Moorcroft
  88. Nick Carter
  89. Nick Pesch
  90. Trevor Spencer
  91. Kade Kolodjashnij
  92. Wayne Henwood
  93. Peter Kiel
  94. Phil Egan
  95. Tom Gillies
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I think your list  is a bit harsh on Dean Chiron who  was always a trier, and who was particularly good at stopping John Platten which, if I recall correctly, is why Brereton ran straight through him in the 1988 grand final, in order to prevent him from doing his usual excellent stopping job.

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1 hour ago, Supermercado said:

As promised on the podcast here are my rankings of imported players since 1980. The criteria is plucked from thin air. Hopefully I haven't missed anyone. Probably a bit of recency bias at the top but that's what happens when most of the last 40 years have been a disaster.

  1. Jeff White
  2. Brian Wilson
  3. Darren Bennett
  4. Brent Moloney
  5. Anthony Ingerson
  6. Steven May*
  7. Clint Bizzell
  8. Ed Langdon*
  9. Jake Lever*
  10. Peter Moore
  11. Shane Zantuck
  12. Bernie Vince
  13. Michael Hibberd*
  14. Marcus Seecamp
  15. Peter Rohde
  16. Brent Crosswell
  17. Shaun Smith
  18. Jake Melksham*
  19. Jeff Garlett
  20. Kelvin Templeton
  21. Daniel Cross
  22. Jordan Lewis
  23. Peter Vardy
  24. Ben Holland
  25. Dom Tyson
  26. Jamie Shanahan
  27. Sam Frost
  28. Paul Johnson
  29. Adam Tomlinson*
  30. Jeff Hilton
  31. Cameron Clayton
  32. Steven Clark
  33. Byron Pickett
  34. David Flintoff
  35. Paul Bryce
  36. Chris Heffernan
  37. Mitch Clark
  38. Phil Read
  39. Matthew Collins
  40. Chris Dawes
  41. Tomas Bugg
  42. Heritier Lumumba
  43. Dean Irving
  44. Craig Ellis
  45. Michael Pickering
  46. Alastair Clarkson
  47. Paul Payne
  48. Doug Koop
  49. Bill Nettlefold
  50. Shannon Byrnes
  51. James Sellar
  52. Greg Doyle
  53. Phil Carman
  54. Scott Chisholm
  55. Craig Turley
  56. Dean Chiron
  57. Andy Goodwin
  58. Ben Kennedy
  59. Ben Newton
  60. Rod Owen
  61. Phil Pinnell
  62. Nigel Kol
  63. Rodney Wright
  64. Harley Bennell
  65. Viv Michie
  66. Robert Pyman
  67. Shannon Motlop
  68. Braydon Preuss
  69. Craig Nettelbeck
  70. Corey Wagner
  71. Xavier Tanner
  72. James Cook
  73. Vin Catoggio
  74. Ross Funcke
  75. Mitch Brown*
  76. Aidan Riley
  77. Michael Young
  78. Ben Brown*
  79. David Rodan
  80. Les Parish
  81. Darryl Cox
  82. David Grant
  83. Adrian Campbell
  84. Steven Pitt
  85. John Meesen
  86. Stuart Cameron
  87. Gary Moorcroft
  88. Nick Carter
  89. Nick Pesch
  90. Trevor Spencer
  91. Kade Kolodjashnij
  92. Wayne Henwood
  93. Peter Kiel
  94. Phil Egan
  95. Tom Gillies

Wow. Just wow.

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3 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

I think your list  is a bit harsh on Dean Chiron who  was always a trier, and who was particularly good at stopping John Platten which, if I recall correctly, is why Brereton ran straight through him in the 1988 grand final, in order to prevent him from doing his usual excellent stopping job.

Didn't play in the 88 GF! Did he club him at some point during the '87 PF? There are a couple of small changes I'd make on second thoughts but he only played 17 games so can't justify having him much higher than mid-table.

@whatwhat say what - I was a Collins fan, and thought it was BS that he didn't get another go after leaving us, but he did really only play half a really good season for us.

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Fantastic list Supermercado.

Martin Heppell could be added to the list I reckon. (apologies if he already is there)

Former St Kilda player that crossed to the Dees in 1995 and played against the Dogs at Optus Oval and West Coast at the WACA in rounds 4 and 5 of 1995. Alas we lost both games.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/M/Martin_Heppell.html

 

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Once you get past Super's say top 25 - 30 then it is diminishing returns in terms of contribution to the demon cause.

It's a reminder though of how much more movement between teams there was back in the 70s and eigthies.

I hate to say it, given his talent, but i would Harley Bennell at the bottom of that list just about. 

And for me thee is one glaring omission, a player i have in my top 10, almost top 5.

The 1982 Bluey winner, Steven Icke.

Awesome for the dees. Such a competitor and never left anything out there. My favorite type of player.  

As primarily a center half back at the dees, in a period where Templeton was the protoype build for a CHF, played out of weight division every game.

He kicked 13 goals in 1983 so must have played forward that year a bit (something i had forgotten - thanks demonwiki. I do remember him being a forward at the Roos) and polled 12 Brownlow votes.

That year he also came third in the bluey behind Alan Johnson (one of all time fav dees) and Robbie. 

 

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3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Fantastic list Supermercado.

Martin Heppell could be added to the list I reckon. (apologies if he already is there)

Former St Kilda player that crossed to the Dees in 1995 and played against the Dogs at Optus Oval and West Coast at the WACA in rounds 4 and 5 of 1995. Alas we lost both games.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/M/Martin_Heppell.html

 

Thank you, just realised I didn't have him on my St Kilda list so have added now.

@binman - Incorrectly had Icke in my 1970s North list.

Can't edit the original post anymore so here's a new version of the list. We're approaching the ton of recycled players.

  1. Jeff White
  2. Brian Wilson
  3. Darren Bennett
  4. Brent Moloney
  5. Anthony Ingerson
  6. Steven May*
  7. Clint Bizzell
  8. Ed Langdon*
  9. Jake Lever*
  10. Stephen Icke
  11. Peter Moore
  12. Shane Zantuck
  13. Bernie Vince
  14. Michael Hibberd*
  15. Marcus Seecamp
  16. Peter Rohde
  17. Brent Crosswell
  18. Shaun Smith
  19. Jake Melksham*
  20. Jeff Garlett
  21. Kelvin Templeton
  22. Daniel Cross
  23. Jordan Lewis
  24. Peter Vardy
  25. Ben Holland
  26. Dom Tyson
  27. Jamie Shanahan
  28. Sam Frost
  29. Paul Johnson
  30. Adam Tomlinson*
  31. Jeff Hilton
  32. Cameron Clayton
  33. Steven Clark
  34. Byron Pickett
  35. David Flintoff
  36. Paul Bryce
  37. Chris Heffernan
  38. Mitch Clark
  39. Phil Read
  40. Matthew Collins
  41. Chris Dawes
  42. Tomas Bugg
  43. Heritier Lumumba
  44. Dean Irving
  45. Craig Ellis
  46. Michael Pickering
  47. Alastair Clarkson
  48. Paul Payne
  49. Doug Koop
  50. Bill Nettlefold
  51. Shannon Byrnes
  52. James Sellar
  53. Greg Doyle
  54. Phil Carman
  55. Scott Chisholm
  56. Craig Turley
  57. Dean Chiron
  58. Andy Goodwin
  59. Ben Kennedy
  60. Ben Newton
  61. Rod Owen
  62. Phil Pinnell
  63. Nigel Kol
  64. Rodney Wright
  65. Harley Bennell
  66. Viv Michie
  67. Corey Wagner
  68. Robert Pyman
  69. Shannon Motlop
  70. Braydon Preuss
  71. Craig Nettelbeck
  72. Xavier Tanner
  73. James Cook
  74. Vin Catoggio
  75. Ross Funcke
  76. Mitch Brown*
  77. Aidan Riley
  78. Michael Young
  79. Ben Brown*
  80. David Rodan
  81. Les Parish
  82. Darryl Cox
  83. David Grant
  84. Adrian Campbell
  85. Steven Pitt
  86. John Meesen
  87. Stuart Cameron
  88. Gary Moorcroft
  89. Nick Carter
  90. Nick Pesch
  91. Trevor Spencer
  92. Kade Kolodjashnij
  93. Martin Heppell
  94. Wayne Henwood
  95. Peter Kiel
  96. Phil Egan
  97. Tom Gillies
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I am really enjoying the podcast this season - helps when we are winning. While I am with Andy on the MFCSS, I appreciate the work that he, BinMan and George put into the analysis of the matches - helps understand what’s going on. The TV commentators are hopeless, except for Jimmy Bartel, Daisy and recently Leppa. The Demons definitely have a process/system which is founded  on pressure acts, and if we are “on” the system works! Thanks again

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2 hours ago, Supermercado said:

Thank you, just realised I didn't have him on my St Kilda list so have added now.

@binman - Incorrectly had Icke in my 1970s North list.

Can't edit the original post anymore so here's a new version of the list. We're approaching the ton of recycled players

Just realised the list doesn't have Pedersen either. Slot him in around the late 20s and once I've sorted out who else is missing I'll reissue.

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