PODCAST: Rd 17 vs Port Adelaide LIVE @ 8:30pm (12/7) featuring Supermercado

[Demonland 64,361]

The Demonland Podcast is LIVE Tonight 12/7 @ 8:30pm featuring @george_on_the_outer, @binman, @Supermercado & @Demonland

We'll be chatting with @Supermercado about his latest book The Last Hurrah as well as discussing our glorious on the road win in Port Adelaide that propelled us back to the Top of the Ladder.

Listen & Chat LIVE: https://demonland.com/podcast

Call: 03 9016 3666

Skype: Demonland31

[Demonland 64,361]

The Demonland Podcast will be LIVE in 1 hour @ 8:30pm

Listen & Chat LIVE: https://demonland.com/podcast

Call: 03 9016 3666

Skype: Demonland31

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Been down in the dumps a bit so this is exactly what I need, looking forward to it.

[whatwhat say what 18,743]

question for the crew: last time we had a significant gap between games (10 days between the bears win and the queens birthday loss) we seemed to come out 'flat' from the get go - do you think that the thursday evening til saturday twilight (9 days) poses a threat to our ability to start strongly?

[Demonland 64,361]

11 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

question for the crew: last time we had a significant gap between games (10 days between the bears win and the queens birthday loss) we seemed to come out 'flat' from the get go - do you think that the thursday evening til saturday twilight (9 days) poses a threat to our ability to start strongly?

Didn't see this until well after the show. You should have jumped in the chat room to ask.

My answer: It's a strong possibility. I'm worried.

[Demonland 64,361]

 

[deebug 1,754]

11 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Been down in the dumps a bit so this is exactly what I need, looking forward to it.

Hope your ok?

[Deeoldfart 7,710]

Great insights and analysis guys. Most enjoyable.  Thanks!

[RedsoxMan 140]

Brian Wilson was a very good recruit from another club

Won a Brownlow 

[whatwhat say what 18,743]

14 minutes ago, RedsoxMan said:

Brian Wilson was a very good recruit from another club

Won a Brownlow 

As did Peter Moore

Edit: shame he finished 13 games of qualifying Darcy to be eligible for father-son for us as well as the filth*

*he was never going to 'nominate' us

Edited July 13, 2021 by whatwhat say what

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

10 hours ago, deebug said:

Hope your ok?

All good, thanks!

[Webber 9,958]

Top pod again, gents. Last Hurrah duly ordered. 

[Demonland 64,361]

19 minutes ago, Webber said:

Top pod again, gents. Last Hurrah duly ordered. 

I hope @Supermercado is keeping a tally of books ordered as a direct result of this podcast and that Demonland gets a cut. ?

[D Rev 239]

Absolutely loved this pod, forwarded on to a number of non-MFC friends who have also enjoyed it.

Brilliant content as always, a fixture on my weekly pod rotation.

 

Many thanks again all

[Supermercado 2,609]

As promised on the podcast here are my rankings of imported players since 1980. The criteria is plucked from thin air. Hopefully I haven't missed anyone. Probably a bit of recency bias at the top but that's what happens when most of the last 40 years have been a disaster.

1. Jeff White
2. Brian Wilson
3. Darren Bennett
4. Brent Moloney
5. Anthony Ingerson
6. Steven May*
7. Clint Bizzell
8. Ed Langdon*
9. Jake Lever*
10. Peter Moore
11. Shane Zantuck
12. Bernie Vince
13. Michael Hibberd*
14. Marcus Seecamp
15. Peter Rohde
16. Brent Crosswell
17. Shaun Smith
18. Jake Melksham*
19. Jeff Garlett
20. Kelvin Templeton
21. Daniel Cross
22. Jordan Lewis
23. Peter Vardy
24. Ben Holland
25. Dom Tyson
26. Jamie Shanahan
27. Sam Frost
28. Paul Johnson
29. Adam Tomlinson*
30. Jeff Hilton
31. Cameron Clayton
32. Steven Clark
33. Byron Pickett
34. David Flintoff
35. Paul Bryce
36. Chris Heffernan
37. Mitch Clark
38. Phil Read
39. Matthew Collins
40. Chris Dawes
41. Tomas Bugg
42. Heritier Lumumba
43. Dean Irving
44. Craig Ellis
45. Michael Pickering
46. Alastair Clarkson
47. Paul Payne
48. Doug Koop
49. Bill Nettlefold
50. Shannon Byrnes
51. James Sellar
52. Greg Doyle
53. Phil Carman
54. Scott Chisholm
55. Craig Turley
56. Dean Chiron
57. Andy Goodwin
58. Ben Kennedy
59. Ben Newton
60. Rod Owen
61. Phil Pinnell
62. Nigel Kol
63. Rodney Wright
64. Harley Bennell
65. Viv Michie
66. Robert Pyman
67. Shannon Motlop
68. Braydon Preuss
69. Craig Nettelbeck
70. Corey Wagner
71. Xavier Tanner
72. James Cook
73. Vin Catoggio
74. Ross Funcke
75. Mitch Brown*
76. Aidan Riley
77. Michael Young
78. Ben Brown*
79. David Rodan
80. Les Parish
81. Darryl Cox
82. David Grant
83. Adrian Campbell
84. Steven Pitt
85. John Meesen
86. Stuart Cameron
87. Gary Moorcroft
88. Nick Carter
89. Nick Pesch
90. Trevor Spencer
91. Kade Kolodjashnij
92. Wayne Henwood
93. Peter Kiel
94. Phil Egan
95. Tom Gillies

Edited July 14, 2021 by Supermercado

[Ollie fan 2,113]

I think your list  is a bit harsh on Dean Chiron who  was always a trier, and who was particularly good at stopping John Platten which, if I recall correctly, is why Brereton ran straight through him in the 1988 grand final, in order to prevent him from doing his usual excellent stopping job.

[whatwhat say what 18,743]

very harsh on chief collins to have him that far back @Supermercado

i'd go current top 10ish:

1. white
2. wilson
3. ingerson
4. moloney
5. vince
6. moore
7. may
8. lever
9. hibberd
10. bizzell

[leave it to deever 15,128]

Off topic but I really enjoyed the Gus and Gawny/ Sauce cast.

O. Baker's story about his mom was incredibly sad and made me tear up. 

I hope his footy career takes of and goes gangbusters.

 

[binman 37,724]

1 hour ago, Supermercado said:

As promised on the podcast here are my rankings of imported players since 1980. The criteria is plucked from thin air. Hopefully I haven't missed anyone. Probably a bit of recency bias at the top but that's what happens when most of the last 40 years have been a disaster.

1. Jeff White
2. Brian Wilson
3. Darren Bennett
4. Brent Moloney
5. Anthony Ingerson
6. Steven May*
7. Clint Bizzell
8. Ed Langdon*
9. Jake Lever*
10. Peter Moore
11. Shane Zantuck
12. Bernie Vince
13. Michael Hibberd*
14. Marcus Seecamp
15. Peter Rohde
16. Brent Crosswell
17. Shaun Smith
18. Jake Melksham*
19. Jeff Garlett
20. Kelvin Templeton
21. Daniel Cross
22. Jordan Lewis
23. Peter Vardy
24. Ben Holland
25. Dom Tyson
26. Jamie Shanahan
27. Sam Frost
28. Paul Johnson
29. Adam Tomlinson*
30. Jeff Hilton
31. Cameron Clayton
32. Steven Clark
33. Byron Pickett
34. David Flintoff
35. Paul Bryce
36. Chris Heffernan
37. Mitch Clark
38. Phil Read
39. Matthew Collins
40. Chris Dawes
41. Tomas Bugg
42. Heritier Lumumba
43. Dean Irving
44. Craig Ellis
45. Michael Pickering
46. Alastair Clarkson
47. Paul Payne
48. Doug Koop
49. Bill Nettlefold
50. Shannon Byrnes
51. James Sellar
52. Greg Doyle
53. Phil Carman
54. Scott Chisholm
55. Craig Turley
56. Dean Chiron
57. Andy Goodwin
58. Ben Kennedy
59. Ben Newton
60. Rod Owen
61. Phil Pinnell
62. Nigel Kol
63. Rodney Wright
64. Harley Bennell
65. Viv Michie
66. Robert Pyman
67. Shannon Motlop
68. Braydon Preuss
69. Craig Nettelbeck
70. Corey Wagner
71. Xavier Tanner
72. James Cook
73. Vin Catoggio
74. Ross Funcke
75. Mitch Brown*
76. Aidan Riley
77. Michael Young
78. Ben Brown*
79. David Rodan
80. Les Parish
81. Darryl Cox
82. David Grant
83. Adrian Campbell
84. Steven Pitt
85. John Meesen
86. Stuart Cameron
87. Gary Moorcroft
88. Nick Carter
89. Nick Pesch
90. Trevor Spencer
91. Kade Kolodjashnij
92. Wayne Henwood
93. Peter Kiel
94. Phil Egan
95. Tom Gillies

Wow. Just wow.

[Supermercado 2,609]

3 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

I think your list  is a bit harsh on Dean Chiron who  was always a trier, and who was particularly good at stopping John Platten which, if I recall correctly, is why Brereton ran straight through him in the 1988 grand final, in order to prevent him from doing his usual excellent stopping job.

Didn't play in the 88 GF! Did he club him at some point during the '87 PF? There are a couple of small changes I'd make on second thoughts but he only played 17 games so can't justify having him much higher than mid-table.

@whatwhat say what - I was a Collins fan, and thought it was BS that he didn't get another go after leaving us, but he did really only play half a really good season for us.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,095]

Fantastic list Supermercado.

Martin Heppell could be added to the list I reckon. (apologies if he already is there)

Former St Kilda player that crossed to the Dees in 1995 and played against the Dogs at Optus Oval and West Coast at the WACA in rounds 4 and 5 of 1995. Alas we lost both games.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/M/Martin_Heppell.html

 

[binman 37,724]

Once you get past Super's say top 25 - 30 then it is diminishing returns in terms of contribution to the demon cause.

It's a reminder though of how much more movement between teams there was back in the 70s and eigthies.

I hate to say it, given his talent, but i would Harley Bennell at the bottom of that list just about. 

And for me thee is one glaring omission, a player i have in my top 10, almost top 5.

The 1982 Bluey winner, Steven Icke.

Awesome for the dees. Such a competitor and never left anything out there. My favorite type of player.  

As primarily a center half back at the dees, in a period where Templeton was the protoype build for a CHF, played out of weight division every game.

He kicked 13 goals in 1983 so must have played forward that year a bit (something i had forgotten - thanks demonwiki. I do remember him being a forward at the Roos) and polled 12 Brownlow votes.

That year he also came third in the bluey behind Alan Johnson (one of all time fav dees) and Robbie. 

 

[Supermercado 2,609]

3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Fantastic list Supermercado.

Martin Heppell could be added to the list I reckon. (apologies if he already is there)

Former St Kilda player that crossed to the Dees in 1995 and played against the Dogs at Optus Oval and West Coast at the WACA in rounds 4 and 5 of 1995. Alas we lost both games.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/M/Martin_Heppell.html

 

Thank you, just realised I didn't have him on my St Kilda list so have added now.

@binman - Incorrectly had Icke in my 1970s North list.

Can't edit the original post anymore so here's a new version of the list. We're approaching the ton of recycled players.

1. Jeff White
2. Brian Wilson
3. Darren Bennett
4. Brent Moloney
5. Anthony Ingerson
6. Steven May*
7. Clint Bizzell
8. Ed Langdon*
9. Jake Lever*
10. Stephen Icke
11. Peter Moore
12. Shane Zantuck
13. Bernie Vince
14. Michael Hibberd*
15. Marcus Seecamp
16. Peter Rohde
17. Brent Crosswell
18. Shaun Smith
19. Jake Melksham*
20. Jeff Garlett
21. Kelvin Templeton
22. Daniel Cross
23. Jordan Lewis
24. Peter Vardy
25. Ben Holland
26. Dom Tyson
27. Jamie Shanahan
28. Sam Frost
29. Paul Johnson
30. Adam Tomlinson*
31. Jeff Hilton
32. Cameron Clayton
33. Steven Clark
34. Byron Pickett
35. David Flintoff
36. Paul Bryce
37. Chris Heffernan
38. Mitch Clark
39. Phil Read
40. Matthew Collins
41. Chris Dawes
42. Tomas Bugg
43. Heritier Lumumba
44. Dean Irving
45. Craig Ellis
46. Michael Pickering
47. Alastair Clarkson
48. Paul Payne
49. Doug Koop
50. Bill Nettlefold
51. Shannon Byrnes
52. James Sellar
53. Greg Doyle
54. Phil Carman
55. Scott Chisholm
56. Craig Turley
57. Dean Chiron
58. Andy Goodwin
59. Ben Kennedy
60. Ben Newton
61. Rod Owen
62. Phil Pinnell
63. Nigel Kol
64. Rodney Wright
65. Harley Bennell
66. Viv Michie
67. Corey Wagner
68. Robert Pyman
69. Shannon Motlop
70. Braydon Preuss
71. Craig Nettelbeck
72. Xavier Tanner
73. James Cook
74. Vin Catoggio
75. Ross Funcke
76. Mitch Brown*
77. Aidan Riley
78. Michael Young
79. Ben Brown*
80. David Rodan
81. Les Parish
82. Darryl Cox
83. David Grant
84. Adrian Campbell
85. Steven Pitt
86. John Meesen
87. Stuart Cameron
88. Gary Moorcroft
89. Nick Carter
90. Nick Pesch
91. Trevor Spencer
92. Kade Kolodjashnij
93. Martin Heppell
94. Wayne Henwood
95. Peter Kiel
96. Phil Egan
97. Tom Gillies

Edited July 14, 2021 by Supermercado

[Hassa Mann 103]

I am really enjoying the podcast this season - helps when we are winning. While I am with Andy on the MFCSS, I appreciate the work that he, BinMan and George put into the analysis of the matches - helps understand what’s going on. The TV commentators are hopeless, except for Jimmy Bartel, Daisy and recently Leppa. The Demons definitely have a process/system which is founded  on pressure acts, and if we are “on” the system works! Thanks again

[Supermercado 2,609]

2 hours ago, Supermercado said:

Thank you, just realised I didn't have him on my St Kilda list so have added now.

@binman - Incorrectly had Icke in my 1970s North list.

Can't edit the original post anymore so here's a new version of the list. We're approaching the ton of recycled players

Just realised the list doesn't have Pedersen either. Slot him in around the late 20s and once I've sorted out who else is missing I'll reissue.