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36 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

The rumor you started

 

No, why would I bother making up stuff. Listen to the radio and social media and you will see I'm not making it up.

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20 minutes ago, Nelo said:

No, why would I bother making up stuff. Listen to the radio and social media and you will see I'm not making it up.

He did Captain the Filth. Many forget that. 
i don’t think Williams wants to Coach again, but if Collingwood do snare him, it is understandable. 
i just hope it doesn’t happen 

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2 hours ago, CYB said:

Yze could only leave if it was a senior coaching position - that is usually the gentleman's agreement with club and coaching staff.  WHy would Choco go to the same position at another club? 

A left field scenario could be to reunite Clarko, Yze and Williams and let Goodwin goto the Pies in exchange for Maynard. *sarcasm*

I think the "agreement" is that assistant coaches are not approached during the season except for senior coaching roles. I don't think there's anything that says an assistant coach can't move between seasons. After all, how did Yze get to us?  

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2 hours ago, CYB said:

Yze could only leave if it was a senior coaching position - that is usually the gentleman's agreement with club and coaching staff.  WHy would Choco go to the same position at another club? 

A left field scenario could be to reunite Clarko, Yze and Williams and let Goodwin goto the Pies in exchange for Maynard. *sarcasm*

There is a better chance of winning tattslotto on Saturday.

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Let's be real though - would a club like Collingwood risk going for an untried senior coach like Yze or throw their considerable resources at Clarkson?  I just can't see Collingwood taking a risk on someone untried, however talented they are.

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5 minutes ago, deegirl said:

Let's be real though - would a club like Collingwood risk going for an untried senior coach like Yze or throw their considerable resources at Clarkson?  I just can't see Collingwood taking a risk on someone untried, however talented they are.

That's a hell of a lot of pressure for an untried coach who hasn't been part of the club (Yze or Mitchell)

I can't see it happening either, particularly with the turmoil behind the scenes at present.

I would not be surprised if there was more to play out with the Mitchell/Clarkson handover, 2023 is a long way off

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Yze would be wise to steer clear of the mess at Collingwood and Carlton. Neither role is right for him. Let Lyons and Clarkson take on those jobs. they have the experience and authority to re-shape those clubs. Yze doesn't. He'd be swimming in the shark pool. Plus who would have his back? Buckley had Maguire. He'll just end-up getting scapegoated and sacked and damaging his reputation. 

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1 hour ago, deegirl said:

Let's be real though - would a club like Collingwood risk going for an untried senior coach like Yze or throw their considerable resources at Clarkson?  I just can't see Collingwood taking a risk on someone untried, however talented they are.

Or Ross Lyon. 

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I think the "agreement" is that assistant coaches are not approached during the season except for senior coaching roles. I don't think there's anything that says an assistant coach can't move between seasons. After all, how did Yze get to us?  

Didn't he wait 12 months till his contract was up?

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2 hours ago, Nelo said:

No, why would I bother making up stuff. Listen to the radio and social media and you will see I'm not making it up.

I don't listen to social media, everyone is just guessing and between now and the end of the season everybody will throw their 2 bob's worth into the ring .

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He did Captain the Filth. Many forget that. 
i don’t think Williams wants to Coach again, but if Collingwood do snare him, it is understandable. 
i just hope it doesn’t happen 

Fairy tale scenarios died out at Collingwood with Eddie.

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If he goes he goes...he's not the messiah, just part of a good coaching group with us.

We look to someone else.

For the life of me I never understand how we over blow someones achievements to be almost god like when they are just doing a good job.

There will always be someone else around who can do a good or better job.

Just not the same...cut and paste this to the Burgess thread or anyone else on the way out.

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2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Time will tell, Mark has been very beneficial to Clubs since he stepped away from the top job. 
players love him

Nicely ambiguous. I assume you mean he's been successful as an asisstant rather than the alternative interpretation that players and clubs liked him better after he left.

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3 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Nicely ambiguous. I assume you mean he's been successful as an asisstant rather than the alternative interpretation that players and clubs liked him better after he left.

He has runs on the board 

Turned Dustin Martin into a Norm Smith Medalist

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I have no idea why Carlton or Collingwood would go for an untired coach. The pressure is on both clubs to deliver and appease the members. Yze is not going to do that. You have Clarkson and Lyon available for the taking. Surely they are your targets.

I suspect Choco will be primed as 'past his use by date' for a senior role. 

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Just now, Jaded said:

I have no idea why Carlton or Collingwood would go for an untired coach. The pressure is on both clubs to deliver and appease the members. Yze is not going to do that. You have Clarkson and Lyon available for the taking. Surely they are your targets.

I suspect Choco will be primed as 'past his use by date' for a senior role. 

Plus Brad Scott, Michael Voss, Justin Leppitsch, Matthew Knights and others. Not sure if any of them are interested, but each should be better second time around.

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7 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Plus Brad Scott, Michael Voss, Justin Leppitsch, Matthew Knights and others. Not sure if any of them are interested, but each should be better second time around.

Isn't Brad Scott going to the AFL?

But you're right, plenty of tried coaches out there who I think would be an easy sell for the members at both clubs. Can't see them going for a new guy. Too risky. 

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51 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Isn't Brad Scott going to the AFL?

But you're right, plenty of tried coaches out there who I think would be an easy sell for the members at both clubs. Can't see them going for a new guy. Too risky. 

I think Brad Scott is already at the AFL as Head of Victorian Football (or perhaps something else). His name has been floated as a potential replacement for Steve Hocking but whether there's any substance to the idea or whether some working in the media were just spitballing I have no idea. (Imgaine that. The footy media making things up!)

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19 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Let’s wait and see how the remainder of the season pans out to determine how valuable Williams is to this group, and specifically whether he can guide us through this flat patch.

 

Williams has made a big impression on us all; however, my money and faith rests more heavily on Yze to direct us to a GF, a winning GF, and onward to greater success in terms of several seasons of great performance.

 

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6 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

Yze would be wise to steer clear of the mess at Collingwood and Carlton. Neither role is right for him. Let Lyons and Clarkson take on those jobs. they have the experience and authority to re-shape those clubs. Yze doesn't. He'd be swimming in the shark pool. Plus who would have his back? Buckley had Maguire. He'll just end-up getting scapegoated and sacked and damaging his reputation. 

Marty Lyons has thrown his hat in the ring ah? Will give the club three pasted players in senior coaching ranks. A wonderful achievement. 

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4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Plus Brad Scott, Michael Voss, Justin Leppitsch, Matthew Knights and others. Not sure if any of them are interested, but each should be better second time around.

I thought Scott did a wonderful job getting two c*&p Norf teams into preliminary finals. Must be able to coach. 

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This is where the NFL does it so creatively or has done in the past.

Coaches should be considered as part of draft value. 

Patriots gave up a first rounder for Belichick in 2000.  How did that turn out?   

Eg you want him Collingwood? Ok well, we could let him go for a early second  rounder. 

Would be a great addition to our game i reckon. 

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