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1 minute ago, Big Demon said:

The team now has to get serious. Weideman, Petty , Brayshaw straight out. Sparrow needs more time as well but has some ability. The club needs more physicality tonight, Viney will be huge, need BBB leading forward and maybe Vanders to bring that extra muscle. We folded tonight.

 

They have been physical enough against the other top sides, Vanders won't come in any time soon, Brayshaw and Petty will also hold their spots.

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An absolute stinker.

Topped off surrounded by pies supporters yelling all night.

We looked so sloooooow it was embarrassing.

Add a fwd line that looked disinterested even if the mids stank it up with a lot of poor entries.

Thanks Max.

Goodbye weideman.

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Does anyone know the forward half defensive pressure stats up to round 6 and then since then?  Brown, then Weidemann came into the side from round 7 and it doesn't look like we have quite the same defensive intent or impact since the introduction of the extra tall.  I'd be tempted to drop Weidemann for Viney and bring back Melksham for Sparrow and see how that looks.  We got three goals out of Jackson and Gawn today, McDonald and Fritsch should be enough as tall targets.  

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42 minutes ago, bjDee said:

Today is why I do not trust this team or this club.

I really thought I had got past that this year.  But they were so far off their best it was like a different team.

Will the real Demons team please turn up?!

They kind of have, 11 times 

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It was coming, we had massive games against lions dogs, top teams have weeks like this, no biggy, will be back at G against bummers in 2 weeks, focus on that not on the loss, bummers are gonna be harder than the filth. 

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1 hour ago, RedButMostlyBlue said:

Maybe the boys were gassed.

It has been a long season already, and we've done a hell of a lot.

11-2 is a great reward for that effort.

We'll be back after the bye, firing.

Reset.

we have just had 10 days off.

Seriously. Oh they were tired.

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1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

This is why we don’t trust them. 
 

Petty is far from it. Weird is far from it. Trac and Oliver have reverted back to selfishness. Gawn is a shadow of himself and an reckon Jackson provides better clearances for the team. 
fritta ducks before he even takes the mark.

Was telling filth supporters at work we would lose unless we bought our A game and we didn’t even bring our F game. And we did nothing during the game to try and even bring it up to a C game.

We’re 11-2 on top, prob second after next week, the doomsday talk on this site is idiotic, you people don’t have a brain. This result was coming, we had massive games against lions dogs, filth we’re going hard for Buckley, you could see this result a mile away, not very often a team goes through undefeated, always lose a few..

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If you are not old enough to remember the Daniher years, our form line over the past 4 weeks is a step back in time.

Up and down, up and down.

This just blew the trust I had slowly gained in them. Would anyone be surprised if we fall apart at the seams now? Essendrug would be licking their lips.

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40 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

As painful as the loss is, your position on this issue is both annoyingly repetitive and unrealistic.

It's bad luck in the extreme that we're the only club to have had two home games which have had to be moved out of Victoria. It's even worse luck that they happened to be two of our three biggest profit-making games for the year (the third being ANZAC Eve).

We're 11-2 in no small part due to the contributions of our assistant coaches, fitness staff, development staff, etc. If we don't recoup some of the $1M+ we are going to lose from missing out on the two games, we're not going to make it where we want to go.

It's entirely understandable that they looked to move the game somewhere where, through ticket sales, we could recoup some money. 

It's not unrealistic, Geelong have been given the option of playing at Kardinia Park in front of no supporters on Friday which they are likely to take. They value the welfare of their players and the 4 points over a few quid.

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2 minutes ago, Dave1711 said:

We’re 11-2 on top, prob second after next week, the doomsday talk on this site is idiotic, you people don’t have a brain. This result was coming, we had massive games against lions dogs, filth we’re going hard for Buckley, you could see this result a mile away, not very often a team goes through undefeated, always lose a few..

You're young, aren't you?

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23 minutes ago, Big Demon said:

The team now has to get serious. Weideman, Petty , Brayshaw straight out. Sparrow needs more time as well but has some ability. The club needs more physicality tonight, Viney will be huge, need BBB leading forward and maybe Vanders to bring that extra muscle. We folded tonight.

 

Why Brayshaw?? He has been good most of the season? Whilst he young and developing, Sparrow’s 4 blunders that resulted in Collingwood goals were far worse mistakes than Brayshaws. Has the awareness of a rock atm, Sparrow.

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1 hour ago, frankie_d said:

Compare this to Roos last game, or when we need to beat the pies to make finals on 2017. 
 

I’m not sure what we stand for. Compare  us to the Essendon 2000 team, or the Lions or Geelong or Hawthorn in their pomp. We just don’t have “it”. Don’t know if we ever will
 

 

How about the triple premiers in Richmond? They choked multiple games in 2017 before winning the flag...

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1 hour ago, OhMyDees said:

Lest we forget North in 2016 - if we play like this after the Bye then that’s exactly what will happen. 

I'm surprised how few people mention this in media. This is the first I've heard it this season.

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13 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

I'm not grumpy, I just dislike the posters that keep potting the club and players and there are plenty of them on here.

In the AFL you are always going to have losses and I never get upset when we lose to a better side if we have a crack.  What is frustrating is when you lose games by lack effort.  

We lost today because we thought it was going to be easy and it wasn't.  Our kicking skills are still and underlying issue, ok we are in a great spot but will this be exposed when finals pressure us applied.

 

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38 minutes ago, Jaded said:

They are a bottom 4 side and we are trying to finish top 2 and win a flag. How did they have more to play for than us? 

I didn’t say more than us, I said ‘everything’ in the context that as individuals they are all playing to avoid some of the blame for ultimately failing their coach. It was undoubtedly an emotion driven win for them, as if you’ve seen them for the last few months they’ve played with nowhere near that level of intensity and energy.

The moment he was gone it was always going to be infinitely trickier for us. 

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Gus has played a specific role this year and mostly, done it very well.  I had so hoped that the Weed would break out this year, but it would seem, this will sadly not happen.  Gus will be OK, but I hope, collectively, this team will understand that today's effort was nowhere near good enough.  After the bye, we need to seriously come out and smack some [censored].

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This was a real regression, however we have a bye to recharge and reset.

We had two very big weeks against two very good oppos so can understand the mental fatigue probably setting in. 

We played on the SCG - where i think we are probably negatively impacted as its a small ground. I dont think we really play good here. We need width and length in a ground to exploit opposition teams

There were two clear howlers from umps that cost us two goals (Cameron & Penlebury) and TMac missed a few sitters. 

It was Buckley's last game so it was expected that Collingwood would play a little more high risk. It was a same style that we lost to Adelaide. High risk, high reward. You cannot really defend it as invite this type of game style hoping to pounce on the turn-over. THey were just kicking it to damn well - its unstainable, but you might win a few games doing it (this was our 2018 brand). 

Now that is all the excuses, we should have smashed them. The Pies were truly awful - we were just more so than usual. The embarrassing thing is that Pies were missing a few and we pretty much fielded a full strength side. 

Our F50 connection was way off today. Cameron and Moore had a field day with the intercept. Maynard was a class above. 

Weid will be dropped and dare say will find it really tough to get another game this year. I think the writing is on the wall now, he just cannot cut it at AFL level.. I would be very surprised if anybody would actually go for him, so he may just wither away in the VFL leagues. 

 

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27 minutes ago, Webber said:

Yeah, not sure if you’re not getting the point deliberately, or just don’t get it. I have no doubt Weideman will be dropped, or that his form means he deserves to be. I dare say he’d agree. The point is that you’ve personally judged him as being a failure in his chosen career. If you met him, would you say that to his face? I sincerely hope the answer is no. If it isn’t, well…..

No, I do “get it”. The guy is a massive under achiever. Getting paid truckloads to do what? Remember when his manager touted huge dollars last year? If he is taking the pay cheque, then yeah he needs to be accountable for his performance. There is absolutely nothing I have seen in his career to date to suggest that he will become a regular AFL player. As many have already said here, he is good VFL at best. Then take the pay cheque that goes with that. Hence get another career

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2 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I didn’t say more than us, I said ‘everything’ in the context that as individuals they are all playing to avoid some of the blame for ultimately failing their coach. It was undoubtedly an emotion driven win for them, as if you’ve seen them for the last few months they’ve played with nowhere near that level of intensity and energy.

The moment he was gone it was always going to be infinitely trickier for us. 

By any measurement, that is no excuse for our performance today.

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