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14 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Thought ?crisp's sling tackle on oliver deserved some scrutiny too. 

Degoey shouldve copped a month.

Interesting that Worpel  for the Hawks got a week for what looked a fairly insipid so called sling tackle. Looking at yesterday’s match there were 2 or 3 sling tackles that could be deemed similar or worse!  Crickets from the MRP. 

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6 hours ago, A F said:

The Richmond midfield is no better by foot. I reckon you're looking in the wrong place. It was down to work rate and decision making yesterday.

We allowed them to transition the ball through the corridor far too easily, some our defenders were too high on such a small ground (see Salem) and we played hero footy, not team first (see Oliver, Petracca and Kozzy).

The first choice Richmond mids have our guys covered easily. Dusty alone does, but Cotchin, Prestia, Edwards might not be perfect but they can find targets. 

The intensity and work rate was a long way down but Goodwin mentioned skill execution for a reason, because when you keep giving up easy intercepts against an organised defence you start panicking in to bad choices rather than sticking to the plan.

We knew Collingwood are highly organised and drilled, the aim had to be to move them around more than just ram in to a wall.

We need to study the tape of how the Pies got so many uncontested marks and the errors made by our defensive press.

But then we really need to study the tempo footy of Geelong and West Coast and the way Richmond use short kicks from their backline before getting a favourable match up for more attacking run or longer kicks. We can't rely on the long bomb to Gawn every single time. 

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I hope the FD and coaches study the tapes and make a review.   There must be some learnings   there  unlike the last game 2018.

nothing to learn , nothing to see,   we lost, we know why, move on.

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I didn't enjoy watching the match at all.

Sadly, the refreshments during the match - Petaluma chardonnay + salmon quiche (avec salad) - helped only slightly. But I was so [censored] off that I didn't even bother with the tea cake.

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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

The first choice Richmond mids have our guys covered easily. Dusty alone does, but Cotchin, Prestia, Edwards might not be perfect but they can find targets. 

The intensity and work rate was a long way down but Goodwin mentioned skill execution for a reason, because when you keep giving up easy intercepts against an organised defence you start panicking in to bad choices rather than sticking to the plan.

We knew Collingwood are highly organised and drilled, the aim had to be to move them around more than just ram in to a wall.

We need to study the tape of how the Pies got so many uncontested marks and the errors made by our defensive press.

But then we really need to study the tempo footy of Geelong and West Coast and the way Richmond use short kicks from their backline before getting a favourable match up for more attacking run or longer kicks. We can't rely on the long bomb to Gawn every single time. 

Dusty is no better than Petracca and only just has Brayshaw covered. The guy dribbles them off his boot semi frequently. A great player, with a penetrative kick, but very hit and miss.

As for Cotchin and Prestia, I think we're watching different games. They're okay over 30m, but that's about it. Cotchin was known for his dinky nothing kicks for years.

Edwards goes okay, but he's not elite.

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8 hours ago, 640MD said:

I hope the FD and coaches study the tapes and make a review.   There must be some learnings   there  unlike the last game 2018.

nothing to learn , nothing to see,   we lost, we know why, move on.

Yeah like what was widely reported didn't happen after the 2018 Preliminary Final debacle.Agree 

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9 hours ago, bingers said:

I didn't enjoy watching the match at all.

Sadly, the refreshments during the match - Petaluma chardonnay + salmon quiche (avec salad) - helped only slightly. But I was so [censored] off that I didn't even bother with the tea cake.

Bingers didn’t get to enjoy his tea cake?! Curse you, filth!

ima add that to my disproportionately looooong list of reasons I hate Collingwood. ?

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20 hours ago, dees189227 said:

DeGoey got a week for that hit in Oliver. 

Ah, that's right, he was going for the ball....

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On 6/15/2021 at 3:20 PM, Better days ahead said:

We scored the first 3 goals of the 3rd quarter to take the lead. I thought we would close it out from there. Even going into the last i thought we would win given our superior fitness. Alas, not to be.

This was the most disappointing thing for me. We were putrid all day, but Collingwood's inaccuracy in front of goal kept us in the game. 

When we took the lead in third quarter (twice), all we needed was ten minutes of committed, team first football to break the game open. Instead, McDonald misses a sitter, our defensive pressure vanished again and we reverted to the selfish, half hearted football of the first half.

Even in the last ten minutes of the game we had chances to put Collingwood under real pressure. Pickett's effort in the dying minutes where he burned Fritsch and dribbled the ball into the square was as bad as I've ever seen. He has generally been very good this year, but no doubt he has listening into hype about his Brisbane performance.

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3 hours ago, poita said:

This was the most disappointing thing for me. We were putrid all day, but Collingwood's inaccuracy in front of goal kept us in the game. 

When we took the lead in third quarter (twice), all we needed was ten minutes of committed, team first football to break the game open. Instead, McDonald misses a sitter, our defensive pressure vanished again and we reverted to the selfish, half hearted football of the first half.

Even in the last ten minutes of the game we had chances to put Collingwood under real pressure. Pickett's effort in the dying minutes where he burned Fritsch and dribbled the ball into the square was as bad as I've ever seen. He has generally been very good this year, but no doubt he has listening into hype about his Brisbane performance.

They’ve responded to challenges and adversity very well all year so I expected a response on Monday. It wasn’t to be but the team have plenty of credits in the bank. I’m going to put it down to tiredness and move on. I expect a refreshed Dees to resume normal service against the Bombers after the bye.

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4 hours ago, poita said:

This was the most disappointing thing for me. We were putrid all day, but Collingwood's inaccuracy in front of goal kept us in the game. 

When we took the lead in third quarter (twice), all we needed was ten minutes of committed, team first football to break the game open. Instead, McDonald misses a sitter, our defensive pressure vanished again and we reverted to the selfish, half hearted football of the first half.

Even in the last ten minutes of the game we had chances to put Collingwood under real pressure. Pickett's effort in the dying minutes where he burned Fritsch and dribbled the ball into the square was as bad as I've ever seen. He has generally been very good this year, but no doubt he has listening into hype about his Brisbane performance.

We expected the comeback to just happen

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5 hours ago, poita said:

This was the most disappointing thing for me. We were putrid all day, but Collingwood's inaccuracy in front of goal kept us in the game. 

When we took the lead in third quarter (twice), all we needed was ten minutes of committed, team first football to break the game open. Instead, McDonald misses a sitter, our defensive pressure vanished again and we reverted to the selfish, half hearted football of the first half.

Even in the last ten minutes of the game we had chances to put Collingwood under real pressure. Pickett's effort in the dying minutes where he burned Fritsch and dribbled the ball into the square was as bad as I've ever seen. He has generally been very good this year, but no doubt he has listening into hype about his Brisbane performance.

Good to see our 11-2 start hasn't dented your hyperbolic criticism skills.

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On 6/16/2021 at 7:54 AM, WalkingCivilWar said:

Bingers didn’t get to enjoy his tea cake?! Curse you, filth!

ima add that to my disproportionately looooong list of reasons I hate Collingwood. ?

I think Bingers ought to be sanctioned for using the word ' avec ' in a post.   Sacre bleu !!!!

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Watched parts of the replay of pies game.

My goodness we were poor. I dont think we could have played worse. Our forwards were shocking and our touted mids were not far behind.

Anyone watching that would scratch their heads wondering how we were on top of thed ladder.

 

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Rinse Spin and Repeat

Nathan Buckley revisits the crossroads Mark 2. Sells his soul to the devil, miraculously his team arises from the dreary depths of the AFL ladder and the demons comply. Presto! Bucks' reputation remains intact and the mythology persists. Last time El Diablo (Eddy) rewards Bucks with a new coaching contract. This time who knows but 'success' does have its own intrinsic rewards...

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On 6/18/2021 at 10:46 PM, Clint Bizkit said:

I only just got up the courage to look at the stats from this game.

This says a lot.

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Oliver had his worst first quarter. But it happens. 

When a centre clearance was won, the ball use was poor.

Langdon missing the prior game upset his performance. Sparrow is still not ready and our forward line despite delivery was a rabble.

Despite what the club says , I think it was a clear case of being over confident and it showed.

Almost any club in the comp can roll another if a team doesnt give their all.

Sadly the arrogance was  Dees of old.

Its not to say they havent changed. Some things take time. They will learn and not do it again.

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22 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Oliver had his worst first quarter. But it happens. 

When a centre clearance was won, the ball use was poor.

Langdon missing the prior game upset his performance. Sparrow is still not ready and our forward line despite delivery was a rabble.

Despite what the club says , I think it was a clear case of being over confident and it showed.

Almost any club in the comp can roll another if a team doesnt give their all.

Sadly the arrogance was  Dees of old.

Its not to say they havent changed. Some things take time. They will learn and not do it again.

The cliche of the reason being 'arrogance' when the team you support loses a match, that you as a supporter expects to win, is at best a naive reductionist response, at worst, arrogant in itself.

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On 6/15/2021 at 10:36 PM, bingers said:

I didn't enjoy watching the match at all.

Sadly, the refreshments during the match - Petaluma chardonnay + salmon quiche (avec salad) - helped only slightly. But I was so [censored] off that I didn't even bother with the tea cake.

Clearly you never made it to the cheese platter.

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1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

The cliche of the reason being 'arrogance' when the team you support loses a match, that you as a supporter expects to win, is at best a naive reductionist response, at worst, arrogant in itself.

Id hate to be married to you.?

Your discounting my opiniin simply by calling it a cliche. You also used the word redctionist totally out of its contextual eptymology.

But in seriousness, I do think the club was complacent going in to that game.

I wasnt, I was worried it might happen so there goes your assumption. Like you know what  Iwas thinking....Woah...I am married to you.?

Thats arrogance. Just saying.

Anyway if you dont like the word or the emotion it invokes then Im happy to say they were at least complacent.....relaxed or proud. But maybe check yours.

Either way we are a much better team and let them beat us. It was not fatigue....monday game....wasnt injuries.

We played our worst game for the year.

Lots of teams do it.... the issue is if we learn from it. Thats humility and maturity.

 

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