Should Gawn have played the percentages and tried to force a draw?

[John Crow Batty 8,228]

We had a much better chance of forcing a draw or chance of snatching the win with a fluke goal and maintained our top position if Gawn tried to punch the ball towards the goals.Too often I bemoan the lack of creative ruck play from Max as well as strategic thinking. He could have got 2 players to position goal side and thump the ball in that direction. We had little chance of him 3 times dropping the ball non goal side at his feet in manic congestion to win a decisive clearance for a shot at goal. Quick thinking and basic math nous could have saved us. A draw would have been as good as a win.

Edited May 23, 2021 by John Crow Batty

[george_on_the_outer 6,960]

Exactly.  Even without a set play scenario trying to kick a goal, punching the ball toward goal would have created a scramble and fear in the Adelaide defenders.  A rushed behind would have been nearly a certainty.

[deebug 1,754]

Yes would have been good if Gawn or any one for that matter did just punch through the goals. 

 

[Dr. Gonzo 22,404]

Yes

[binman 37,872]

Yes x4

[FritschyBusiness 1,455]

yes, but we also don't need 5 different topics about last nights game

[BW511 2,238]

I was pleading at the TV - punch it towards the line Maxxxxxy

[Winners at last 4,705]

I thought the same.

[dees189227 10,713]

I wish gawn disposed of the ball quicker & didn't get caught holding the ball leading to the winning goal. 

I wish the boys stuck to the structures in the last 5 minutes.

 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,142]

No. This is a team that I want to play to win not eek out a draw. If you think that would have been the best play to create a goal opportunity then I agree. 

[Mr Steve 3,820]

I was screaming for them to punch it though, mind you they would have expected the Crow to force it OOB and maybe get the deliberate or a quick kick straight to a Melbourne player. May was setup for the quick kick. 

[Dee Zephyr 17,369]

10 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I wish gawn disposed of the ball quicker & didn't get caught holding the ball leading to the winning goal. 

I wish the boys stuck to the structures in the last 5 minutes.

 

I thought why not just boot it off the ground as far as possible and he was stuck manning the mark too which didn’t help. 
Just a few little things let us down, weren’t playing good but we led that game for 85 minutes out of 115. 
 

On the thump and towards the goal, I wanted him to go towards any score. Just wondering how hard is it to do from a stand and jump as opposed to a run-up late in a game.
 

[Little Goffy 12,541]

Seems odd to be second guessing a decision which actually earned us a shot on goal from beside the goal post.

Even if we didn't actually get awarded it.

[John Crow Batty 8,228]

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

I thought why not just boot it off the ground as far as possible and he was stuck manning the mark too which didn’t help. 
Just a few little things let us down, weren’t playing good but we led that game for 85 minutes out of 115. 
 

On the thump and towards the goal, I wanted him to go towards any score. Just wondering how hard is it to do from a stand and jump as opposed to a run-up late in a game.
 

When defending ruckmen were allowed to rush behinds from ball ups close to goal they used to do it all the time. It was relatively easy. That’s why they changed the rules.

Edited May 23, 2021 by John Crow Batty

[layzie 28,559]

Yeah, last 10 seconds I was hoping just to kick a point I would have taken a draw as a tie breaker over the Dogs. 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Gawn's been less than impressive in a whole bunch of areas for four weeks in a row. 

As a captain, he needs to make less unforced errors, missed marks and spoiling his own team mates and become more physical at stoppage. 

Needs a massive game on Friday night to win me back. 

He's been extremely underwhelming imo for a few weeks. Some his tap work has been shocking. Get going Max. 

[Demons11 6,404]

In fairness I think he was playing the percentages.  They were still 15-20m out in the last few plays.  If he swipes and it lands in an Adelaide players hands and they clear it then it’s came over.  Damned if you do, damned if you don’t 

[Demons11 6,404]

16 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Gawn's been less than impressive in a whole bunch of areas for four weeks in a row. 

As a captain, he needs to make less unforced errors, missed marks and spoiling his own team mates and become more physical at stoppage. 

Needs a massive game on Friday night to win me back. 

He's been extremely underwhelming imo for a few weeks. Some his tap work has been shocking. Get going Max. 

Needs a big game to win you back? Are you kidding? The bloke has been enormous for years now and you want to bring him down for s few average weeks? 
I think you need a lie down buddy.

Edited May 23, 2021 by Demons11

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Needs a big game to win you back? Are you kidding? The bloke has been enormous for years now and you want to bring him down for s few average weeks? 
I think you need a lie down buddy.

Win me back this month, yes. 

Yeh he's been immense. But he's in a form slump at the minute and if we are to challenge the best, (dogs and Brissy) we need him playing top tier footy.

The best bring the same level most weeks. Gawn has been average for a month. If we're challenging this year, he needs to be playing consistently high level footy most weeks. 

And he's not presently. 

[Fork 'em 6,507]

2 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

No. This is a team that I want to play to win not eek out a draw. If you think that would have been the best play to create a goal opportunity then I agree. 

This is a team that wants to win.
I doubt the thought even entered their minds.
Gotta go for the goal.
Thumping it over the goal line is for when the scores are level and you want to eek out a win.

 

Edited May 23, 2021 by Fork 'em

[rpfc 27,411]

I’m sure Max would want to lift - he even said in his podcast that he has been having a dip in form.

Oddly enough he attributed maturity to not going up for marks that he competes for with Lever/TMac etc.

I think he needs to listen to his own advice. He also has been ball watching in contests in the middle. 

[Queanbeyan Demon 5,911]

There are 100 micro decisions that players made yesterday that if different would have potentially changed the result. Max’s decisions rank about 80 on the list. 

[Bleed red and blue 59]

I thought it was strange when Maxy took it out of the ruck he should have smashed it into clear space given ourself a chance to win not go for a draw we where 9-0 at the time 

Be ruthless not safe

Adelaide where 

[spirit of norm smith 12,877]

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

There are 100 micro decisions that players made yesterday that if different would have potentially changed the result. Max’s decisions rank about 80 on the list. 

Top 50 but agree with your thinking.  If … if … and if … x100 after last nights game. 

[JJJ 504]

2 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Win me back this month, yes. 

Yeh he's been immense. But he's in a form slump at the minute and if we are to challenge the best, (dogs and Brissy) we need him playing top tier footy.

The best bring the same level most weeks. Gawn has been average for a month. If we're challenging this year, he needs to be playing consistently high level footy most weeks. 

And he's not presently. 

He’s an A-Grader with B-Grade output at the moment.

I think your point on his physicality is spot on. He’s a huge man but lacks a bit of presence at the moment. Could be injury or a little bit of indecision/lack of confidence.

He’ll get back to his normal output soon I am sure.