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hi

does anyone know what is our best effort for wins in a season (22 games, 20 games, and, 18 game seasons)

and

after home n away - what is our highest ladder finish in a 22 game season please?

 

I love the Dees

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There's a lot of media comment, esp. on Ch 7 commentary on Sunday about how often Melb. started 9 - 0 (allegedly 5 times)  and how each year we won the flag. Typically of Seven media not all of its accurate. Confusing winning 9 in a row with sstrating off at 9 in a row.

However as a vague pointer to this season, might be the second  time we started 9 -0  we went on to get to 13 - 0, in 1956. So far so good.

Who was the first team that year to beat the Dees?  The Bulldogs.

Dees finished 16 -2, eerily with a % of 146% and went on to the flag winning the 2nd semi, and then the GF. Both the Collingwood, the GF in front of 115,000.

 

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Our best results in seasons are:
1990 - 16 - 6 (4th)
1956 - 16 - 2 (1st + Flag)
We went 15 - 3 in 37(2nd +PF), 39 (1st + Flag), 55 (1st + Flag) and 58 (1st + lost GF)


In more recent history:
2000, 2004 + 2018 we went 14 - 8 in all 3 of those years
Best Ladder position at the end of H&A was 3rd in 2000 



I predict we'll go 18-4 this year 
 

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19 minutes ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Our best results in seasons are:
1990 - 16 - 6 (4th)
1956 - 16 - 2 (1st + Flag)
We went 15 - 3 in 37(2nd +PF), 39 (1st + Flag), 55 (1st + Flag) and 58 (1st + lost GF)


In more recent history:
2000, 2004 + 2018 we went 14 - 8 in all 3 of those years
Best Ladder position at the end of H&A was 3rd in 2000 



I predict we'll go 18-4 this year 
 

What games are likely losses, do you think? I was going to say Cats at the Cattery, but we did nearly beat them (thanks Max! (again)) there (I think 2018) and we are better now (but they have Cameron, so...).

I'd say Port, Eagles, Geelong and one of the Bulldogs games. Brisbane line ball. Of course, there's a chance we go 20-2 or 19-3.

Long way to go.

The other way of looking at it is likely wins.

Suns, Bombers, GWS, Adelaide x 2, Hawks, Pies, maybe a Dogs game - that puts us at 17, perhaps 16.

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9 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

What games are likely losses, do you think? I was going to say Cats at the Cattery, but we did nearly beat them (thanks Max! (again)) there (I think 2018) and we are better now (but they have Cameron, so...).

I'd say Port, Eagles, Geelong and one of the Bulldogs games. Brisbane line ball. Of course, there's a chance we go 20-2 or 19-3.

Long way to go.

The other way of looking at it is likely wins.

Suns, Bombers, GWS, Adelaide x 2, Hawks, Pies, maybe a Dogs game - that puts us at 17, perhaps 16.

Just on the law of averages, as history tells us the top teams in the last 20 years lose 1-6 games in a season.

I've looked through the fixture and I think well win some and possibly lose some of those line ball games, never know a likely win could turn into a loss, an injury in game may occur that throws out our balance, just unpredictable.

If we do better than 18-4 I'm gonna be ecstatic so some of my logic is possibly tempering my own expectations.

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We have never finished on top? And never had a 100 goal full foward (probably unlikely now) 

 

That's insane from one of the oldest sporting clubs in the world really

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1 hour ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Just on the law of averages, as history tells us the top teams in the last 20 years lose 1-6 games in a season.

I've looked through the fixture and I think well win some and possibly lose some of those line ball games, never know a likely win could turn into a loss, an injury in game may occur that throws out our balance, just unpredictable.

If we do better than 18-4 I'm gonna be ecstatic so some of my logic is possibly tempering my own expectations.

You know that there is no law of averages, it's a myth.

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has there been a 22 game season where an 18-4 team has not finished one or two.

the third ranked teams are now 3 games behind us.

To better an 18 game season they would need to go 12 and 1. Highly unlikely

To go 18 and 4 we would need to go 9 and 4 from here. Doable but tough

8 and 5 should be more definite putting us at 17-5

(boy this is strange when we are usually talking permutations to make the final 8)

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1 hour ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Yes I am aware, we also have years of data to use as reference

Years of data can indicate what happened. It may be used as a guide but no guarantee of the future. But you know that, you read the data.

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10 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Our best results in seasons are:
1990 - 16 - 6 (4th)
1956 - 16 - 2 (1st + Flag)
We went 15 - 3 in 37(2nd +PF), 39 (1st + Flag), 55 (1st + Flag) and 58 (1st + lost GF)


In more recent history:
2000, 2004 + 2018 we went 14 - 8 in all 3 of those years
Best Ladder position at the end of H&A was 3rd in 2000 



I predict we'll go 18-4 this year 
 

 

so 1956 is the year to better ... for us to better the 88.8% winning of 1956 we need to win 20 games of 22 this year (to be accurate it would be 19.36 games as 88.8% of 22 games)

Go Dees

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10 hours ago, Josh said:

We have never finished on top? And never had a 100 goal full foward (probably unlikely now) 

 

That's insane from one of the oldest sporting clubs in the world really

Well Fred fanning did kick 97 in 1942, only 18 rounds back then, and we did not make finals

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1 hour ago, DubDee said:

So would it be correct to say we have finished in the top 4 at the end of the home and away- twice in 50 years?

sweet mother of god

Twice since its been a top 8 (1994) 
But we've been top 4, 4 times since we started making finals again in 87

87 - 5th
88 - 5th
89 - 4th
90 - 4th
91 - 5th
94 - 7th (First season with a top 8)
98 - 4th
2000 - 3rd
2002 - 6th
2004 - 5th
2005 - 7th
2006 - 7th 
2018 - 5th

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It was the final round of the 1947 season and Fanning kicked 18.1 that day with the point being his last scoring shot for that game and also his VFL career.

His very next game was as Captain-Coach of Hamilton in 1948 in the then Western District Football League after being offered three times the money he received at Melbourne.

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