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6 Salem

5 Oliver

4 Lever

3 TMacc

2 Langdon

1 Jordon

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4 hours ago, deanox said:

6 Lever

5 Oliver

4 Salem

3 May

2 Langdon

1 TMac

 

Apologies to Gawn (workhorse), Fritsch (cameo) and Rivers (saved the day on many occasions), as well as Kozzie (who threatened but broke even on the dangerous Saad).

 

That's about it I reckon

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6. Lever

5. Salem

4. Oliver

3. Brayshaw

2. May

1. Neal-Bullen

Apologies to langdon, jj and tmac.

Rivers killing it in the backline just quietly. Doesn't get the same plaudits as his fellow draftees in Jackson and Pickett but has been equally as impressive in my opinion.

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3 hours ago, McQueen said:

People who don’t have Oliver in their six.

Frustrated Ryan Gosling GIF

 

They’re racist against gingers that’s why. 
 

6- Clarry (red heads stick together!)

5- Lever 

4- Salem 

3- McDonald 

2- May 

1- My boy #positivelingers 

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13 hours ago, deanox said:

6 Lever

5 Oliver

4 Salem

3 May

2 Langdon

1 TMac

 

Apologies to Gawn (workhorse), Fritsch (cameo) and Rivers (saved the day on many occasions), as well as Kozzie (who threatened but broke even on the dangerous Saad).

 

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I watched the replay when I got home and have a totally different view if some players now.

While you get a far better idea of the running patterns at the game, you do miss a lot.

The two contributions I missed most were Trac and Brayshaw.

Trac was excellent and Brayshaw's good work far outweighed the bad (turnovers). If Gus can get his disposal in order, a big game is just around the corner. His read of the game is elite.

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Too hard to place in order. So give 3 votes to Salem and then 2 votes each to Lever, May, Oliver, McDonald, Neal-Bullen, Spargo, Hunt, Jordon, Petracca and Langdon. Total 21 votes.

How good is it when the teams performance is so even with multiple contributors.

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Clayton Oliver leads the two Christians -

Progressive

83. Clayton Oliver
66. Christian Salem
64. Christian Petracca
60. Max Gawn
57. Jake Lever
44. Tom McDonald
43. Ed Langdon
31. Steven May
26. Kysiah Pickett
17. Bayley Fritsch Luke Jackson
12. Jayden Hunt
10. Jack Viney
9. James Harmes
8. James Jordon
7. Michael Hibberd  
3. Angus Brayshaw Charlie Spargo
1. Alex Neal-Bullen Adam Tomlinson

 

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Clayton Oliver leads the two Christians -

Progressive

83. Clayton Oliver
66. Christian Salem
64. Christian Petracca
60. Max Gawn
57. Jake Lever
44. Tom McDonald
43. Ed Langdon
31. Steven May
26. Kysiah Pickett
17. Bayley Fritsch Luke Jackson
12. Jayden Hunt
10. Jack Viney
9. James Harmes
8. James Jordon
7. Michael Hibberd  
3. Angus Brayshaw Charlie Spargo
1. Alex Neal-Bullen Adam Tomlinson

 

I think that order is pretty good.

Although I doubt the coaches would have Gawn that high. We as supporters love him but tend to give him votes even when he probably doesn’t deserve it. I think he’s carrying a niggle that stops him from asserting some physical presence at times.

Was watching Jordan pretty closely and I found myself reflecting on Scotty Thompson when he played for us. Not to say that JJ has the ceiling of Scotty, but I feel very safe when he’s lurking around a clearance that he won’t let the ball exit too easily and hurt us. Much like Scotty used to do in his MFC days and Jnr McDonald after that.

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4 minutes ago, JJJ said:

I think that order is pretty good.

Although I doubt the coaches would have Gawn that high. We as supporters love him but tend to give him votes even when he probably doesn’t deserve it. I think he’s carrying a niggle that stops him from asserting some physical presence at times.

Was watching Jordan pretty closely and I found myself reflecting on Scotty Thompson when he played for us. Not to say that JJ has the ceiling of Scotty, but I feel very safe when he’s lurking around a clearance that he won’t let the ball exit too easily and hurt us. Much like Scotty used to do in his MFC days and Jnr McDonald after that.

As of Round 8.

Leaderboard - AFL Coaches Association’s AFL Champion Player Award

Votes Player Club
42 Hugh McCluggage BL
38 David Mundy FRE
34 Max Gawn MELB
34 Touk Miller GCFC
34 Ollie Wines PORT
33 Jack Macrae WB
32 Marcus Bontempelli WB
32 Clayton Oliver MELB
32 Christian Salem MELB
31 Samuel Walsh CARL
29 Zach Merrett ESS
28 Christian Petracca MELB
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Just now, Demonland said:

As of Round 8.

Leaderboard

Votes Player Club
42 Hugh McCluggage BL
38 David Mundy FRE
34 Max Gawn MELB
34 Touk Miller GCFC
34 Ollie Wines PORT
33 Jack Macrae WB
32 Marcus Bontempelli WB
32 Clayton Oliver MELB
32 Christian Salem MELB
31 Samuel Walsh CARL
29 Zach Merrett ESS
28 Christian Petracca MELB

I meant just our coaches. I don’t think he’s impacted the games as much as a couple of other Dees.

But your point is well made. 

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1 hour ago, Roger Mellie said:

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Definitely not enough love for Trent Rivers in 2021

That's not necessarily the case, just its a systemic weakness of the fixed 6-5-4-3-2-1 system that you can play well and not receive votes in good team performances and conversely receive votes for mediocre - or worse - games in lesser team performances.  Obviously also when multiple players play equally well, you have the issue that there is a massive difference between five votes and one vote when in reality there isn't such a difference in output.   Obviousy the best solution is we all score every player each week out of 10, but that obviously presents its own issues and likely isn't manageable.  But in terms of Rivers, he plays well but is probably our 12th, on average, best player each week.  In this system, thats of no value unfortunately.

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