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2 minutes ago, McQueen said:

People who don’t have Oliver in their six.

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Sorry. Only reason  why I didn't have him is that he handballs over the head to opposition countless times.

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Thought the top 4 were pretty clear. You might argue about the order.

 

6.  Salem.   Cool calm collected

5.  Lever.  How many saving marks helped by Salem and May

4. Tmac.   Great goals and important marks

3. Oliver.   All over the ground

last two votes. Could have gone to almost any of about 6 or 8

2. Spargo.  See Oliver above all over the ground and a couple of clutch goals. Involved in many scores

1. May.  We have a fantastic backline

AnB. Hunt Langdon Harmes Hibberd Rivers Jordan Weid Kossy Brayshaw Frittata all deserved a vote

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41 minutes ago, gOLLy said:

Sorry. Only reason  why I didn't have him is that he handballs over the head to opposition countless times.

Harsh mate. I thought he was at the coal face all game. 

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25 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Harsh mate. I thought he was at the coal face all game. 

Re : Oliver

It’s his role in the team to be “at the coal face all game”.

What he does when he’s at the “coal face” then decides how well he has played.

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7 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

Re : Oliver

It’s his role in the team to be “at the coal face all game”.

What he does when he’s at the “coal face” then decides how well he has played.

Gee thanks for the enlightenment. 

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8 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

Re : Oliver

It’s his role in the team to be “at the coal face all game”.

What he does when he’s at the “coal face” then decides how well he has played.

I'm sometimes critical of Oliver especially the hot potato handballs but today he was superb. Great four quarter effort with 10 tackles, 7 clearances and plenty of hard work.

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I missed the first quarter but I think this should still be about right:

6 TMac - immense, yet again

5 Lever - on a difficult marking day he yet again shon

4 Langdon - he just keeps on keeping on

3 Oliver - he’s so important to our team, I just wish he could improve his finishing on goal

2 Hunt - his run and tackling was massive

1 Chandler - for copping the Gatorade and milk in the song (WTF guys?!)

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5 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

Re : Oliver

It’s his role in the team to be “at the coal face all game”.

What he does when he’s at the “coal face” then decides how well he has played.

23 touches (2nd most for melb)

16 contested possessions (most on ground)

14 kicks (only 9 handballs, so can't be that many wasted)

10 score involvements (most on ground)

6 clearances (2nd on ground)

10 tackles (2nd most on ground)

348 m gained (9th on ground)

2 goal assists (most on ground)

1 goal, 2 behinds

26 pressure acts (4th most on ground)

4 inside 50s (=6th on ground)

 

He was at the coalface, and was probably the most damaging player on field.

That Carlton had more inside 50s than us and we repelled them is why Lever was higher rated in my opinion.

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18 minutes ago, deanox said:

23 touches (2nd most for melb)

16 contested possessions (most on ground)

14 kicks (only 9 handballs, so can't be that many wasted)

10 score involvements (most on ground)

6 clearances (2nd on ground)

10 tackles (2nd most on ground)

348 m gained (9th on ground)

2 goal assists (most on ground)

1 goal, 2 behinds

26 pressure acts (4th most on ground)

4 inside 50s (=6th on ground)

 

He was at the coalface, and was probably the most damaging player on field.

That Carlton had more inside 50s than us and we repelled them is why Lever was higher rated in my opinion.

It’s Clarrys 11 clangers that consistently lets him down. Had a great game for getting the footy and driving us forwards.  I still put him in the votes but his disposal and decision making can still improve him and the team. 

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18 minutes ago, deanox said:

23 touches (2nd most for melb)

16 contested possessions (most on ground)

14 kicks (only 9 handballs, so can't be that many wasted)

10 score involvements (most on ground)

6 clearances (2nd on ground)

10 tackles (2nd most on ground)

348 m gained (9th on ground)

2 goal assists (most on ground)

1 goal, 2 behinds

26 pressure acts (4th most on ground)

4 inside 50s (=6th on ground)

 

He was at the coalface, and was probably the most damaging player on field.

That Carlton had more inside 50s than us and we repelled them is why Lever was higher rated in my opinion.

Re: Oliver

We can all see the game differently.

I base my opinions on what l see in a game.

l also give my votes without referring to the AFL live app for the stats.

Stats can be misleading, ie Inside 50’s.

Oliver was OK, rated him just outside the top 6.

Agree with you on Lever, rated him 2nd best.

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7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s Clarrys 11 clangers that consistently lets him down.  I still put him in the votes but his disposal and decision making can still improve him and the team. 

I understand where you're coming from but there is a clear correlation between high disposal players, and high contested possession winning players and high "clanger" players. His average clangers is high but not out of the ordinary.

Also remember that while he had 11 clangers, 5 of the clangers were "free kicks against".

His extreme value today was the fact he won the ball 16 times in close quarters, and he had 10 score involvements.

 

His career clanger average isn't much different than Cripps, Fyfe, Dusty, Tim Kelly etc. Cleaning this up won't be what makes the difference in his career. It will be when he has the scoreboard impact he had today every week.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

Re: Oliver

We can all see the game differently.

I base my opinions on what l see in a game.

l also give my votes without referring to the AFL live app for the stats.

Stats can be misleading, ie Inside 50’s.

Oliver was OK, rated him just outside the top 6.

Agree with you on Lever, rated him 2nd best.

I gave my votes first; the stats are supporting this argument though.

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2 hours ago, McQueen said:

People who don’t have Oliver in their six.

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I was about to say the same thing as I scanned through the first page of posts.

It honestly makes me wonder if I’m watching the same game.

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