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8 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

The Powa are an extremely overrated team who got lucky with the shortened version of the game last year.

Couple that with the gifted games played at home and on the Gold Coast where they adapted and play very well.

No improvement whatsoever at all this year, extremely gettable in their backhalf.

Agree. they've been pantsed by the Eagles and Lions and but for a second quarter surge v the dog would have been pantsed by them as well. They're pretenders and nothing more.

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50 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

The quality of commentating in general is of a low standard. I listen to most games with the mute button engaged.

I had to do that last night....Ed was over the  top about evverything and just wouldnt shut up. Couldn't listen to it anymore. He just loves the sound of his own voice nonstop at a hundred miles an hour crapping on.

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Tell ya what, last night showed i could just break out a bottle of Gin and be a better commentator than Eddie for Fox. 

in other news! off to get a Bacon and Egg roll and a really REALLY big coffee! catch ya at 3:20 pm for round 2 of Patches vs the Gin

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Eddie’s calling last night was horrendous, probably the worst I’ve heard and he must be the only person in Australia that thinks Toby Greene is a left footer. 

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49 minutes ago, Melbournepotter said:

I had to do that last night....Ed was over the  top about evverything and just wouldnt shut up. Couldn't listen to it anymore. He just loves the sound of his own voice nonstop at a hundred miles an hour crapping on.

Sounded to me like he was speeding! Couldnt watch it and changed channel

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If Eddie was smart enough he should have taken the year off in general from any form of AFL.

Focus on other interests and his family. His work in the media this year on classified and as a commentator has been really bizarre to the point where I question his mental health.

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I really hope Hardwick's comments about Richmond playing at Marvel resonate through the AFL community.

The same principle applies to us. It's not our home ground, our fans don't like it, and it robs us of a true home game. We've been fortunate the last few years to not be given a home game there but we are selling a game each year to Alice Springs.

If the AFL needs to make up a minimum number of Marvel games per year, make Essendon and Carlton host them. They're the clubs who signed on to be Marvel tenants. Yes, that might mean our away games to Essendon or Carlton in the future would be at Marvel instead of the G, but that IMO is a fairer result than us or Richmond having to host games at Marvel to make up for it.

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15 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

We are nowhere near the Dogs, they are a class above us

 

On a good day we’d beat them. 

On a bad day they’d beat us. 

To suggest the bulldogs are a “class” (whatever that means) above the rest of the competition is hysterical hyperbole. 

Or perhaps you didn’t see them play Richmond?
 

 

 

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15 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

We are nowhere near the Dogs, they are a class above us

Ridiculous post.

Unless Fremantle beats Essendon by 10 goals, the current top 8 will remain the top 8 after today's games. The Dogs have a 3-1 record against the top 8, but one of those wins was Brisbane in Ballarat, in Brisbane's third consecutive week stuck in Victoria. We have a 3-0 record. Hardly "a class above".

For comparison, here is every top 8 side's record against the top 8:

  1. Dogs: 3-1
  2. Melbourne: 3-0
  3. Geelong: 3-2
  4. Brisbane: 1-3
  5. Port: 1-3
  6. Sydney: 3-1
  7. West Coast: 1-2
  8. Richmond: 1-4

If there's a "class", we sit comfortably in it alongside the Dogs and Geelong. Sydney, interestingly, is standing up in big games more than the rest of the top 8 sides, despite being the side many consider most likely to drop out of the 8 by season's end.

Brisbane have won five in a row but Port (at home) is the only side higher than 10th on the ladder they've played in that run.

Port have looked good this year but Richmond is the only side higher than 11th on the ladder they've beaten.

West Coast have barely played good sides this year, and don't really before the bye (Adelaide, GWS, Essendon, Carlton).

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As for the results yesterday, Richmond winning obviously hurts, but the Dogs winning IMO isn't a bad result. As some have said, the difference between finishing 1st and 2nd isn't anywhere near as bad as between 2nd and 3rd, particularly when interstate sides such as Brisbane and Port are in the running for the top 4.

If we win today, we'll be 3 games and around 15%+ clear of Geelong in third. Indeed, assuming West Coast wins, 3-7 on the ladder will all be 6 win sides. Which I suppose also means if we slip up in the second half of the year, there could be a real glut of sides ready to pass us. 

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36 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Ridiculous post.

Unless Fremantle beats Essendon by 10 goals, the current top 8 will remain the top 8 after today's games. The Dogs have a 3-1 record against the top 8, but one of those wins was Brisbane in Ballarat, in Brisbane's third consecutive week stuck in Victoria. We have a 3-0 record. Hardly "a class above".

For comparison, here is every top 8 side's record against the top 8:

  1. Dogs: 3-1
  2. Melbourne: 3-0
  3. Geelong: 3-2
  4. Brisbane: 1-3
  5. Port: 1-3
  6. Sydney: 3-1
  7. West Coast: 1-2
  8. Richmond: 1-4

If there's a "class", we sit comfortably in it alongside the Dogs and Geelong. Sydney, interestingly, is standing up in big games more than the rest of the top 8 sides, despite being the side many consider most likely to drop out of the 8 by season's end.

Brisbane have won five in a row but Port (at home) is the only side higher than 10th on the ladder they've played in that run.

Port have looked good this year but Richmond is the only side higher than 11th on the ladder they've beaten.

West Coast have barely played good sides this year, and don't really before the bye (Adelaide, GWS, Essendon, Carlton).

Agreed. We wont know until two weeks the better side. I think they are slightly better overall but hardly a different class.

And having said that i dont believe we are playing our besy yet so we may actually beat them.

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6 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Agreed. We wont know until two weeks the better side. I think they are slightly better overall but hardly a different class.

And having said that i dont believe we are playing our besy yet so we may actually beat them.

Even if they beat us in two weeks, that won't necessarily mean they are better than us overall, and certainly won't indicate they are in a "class above".

I haven't crunched the data but I'm confident in many years the result of some finals is a reverse of the result of those sides' match(es) in the home and away. I mean, last year Richmond lost to St Kilda and Port during the H&A but beat them both in the finals. West Coast beat Collingwood in the H&A by 11 goals but lost the final.

I do agree, though, that I think we can get better. I don't think we've put a complete four quarter dominant performance together yet.

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On 5/16/2021 at 2:01 PM, titan_uranus said:

Ridiculous post.

Unless Fremantle beats Essendon by 10 goals, the current top 8 will remain the top 8 after today's games. The Dogs have a 3-1 record against the top 8, but one of those wins was Brisbane in Ballarat, in Brisbane's third consecutive week stuck in Victoria. We have a 3-0 record. Hardly "a class above".

For comparison, here is every top 8 side's record against the top 8:

  1. Dogs: 3-1
  2. Melbourne: 3-0
  3. Geelong: 3-2
  4. Brisbane: 1-3
  5. Port: 1-3
  6. Sydney: 3-1
  7. West Coast: 1-2
  8. Richmond: 1-4

If there's a "class", we sit comfortably in it alongside the Dogs and Geelong. Sydney, interestingly, is standing up in big games more than the rest of the top 8 sides, despite being the side many consider most likely to drop out of the 8 by season's end.

Brisbane have won five in a row but Port (at home) is the only side higher than 10th on the ladder they've played in that run.

Port have looked good this year but Richmond is the only side higher than 11th on the ladder they've beaten.

West Coast have barely played good sides this year, and don't really before the bye (Adelaide, GWS, Essendon, Carlton).

Still ridiculous?

 

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