Jump to content

  • Podcast: Grand Final 2021      

  • Podcast: Grand Final      

Sat Night Channel 7 Team



Recommended Posts

39 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I found the conversation they had with TMac after the game on 7 a really interesting example of what they think their role is. Tom spoke eloquently and very insightfully about the complexity of his preparation and both Ling and Darcy looked at each other in way that suggested this was all a bit high brow for the audience. 

I really do think they’ve been told to commentate to a grade 4 level - ‘go in harder’, ‘run faster’, ‘take a speccy!’

Surely it can’t be an accident. It’s such a shame that we have to accept such low assumptions of us as an audience. It’s pretty insulting.

That’s interesting. I never gave it much thought, but now that you mention it... 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not a single one of that commentary team is good.

Richo is undoubtedly the worst. He adds literally nothing of value. Nothing. Everything he says is meaningless, cliched, guff. He's hopeless. 

McLachlan's a terrible commentator. 70% of what he says is "[club] has kicked X of the last Y goals", or "[club] led by 10, now [other club] leads by 5".

Darcy's actually commentary is fine but his mistakes with names are unforgivable.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


What about it being our first 8-0 start "since 1956... err... 1965... when Ron Barassi was in his first year as coach". Whoever wrote that fun fact for Darcy forgot to include the bit about RDB coaching Carlton. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Are there any modern commentators that are universally liked though? The discussions about commentators is almost solely about which ones people hate.
 

modern = started commentating post 2000 

  • Shocked 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

This is cringey me even writing this but the way channel seven train and develop their commentary team is for them to be “story tellers”. One of the (many) things that annoy me about them is that they always feel they need to fill the air with commentary, such as when TMac was lining up for his goal in the final quarter Luke Darcy couldn’t help but dribble on about his journey and how big a kick this was in the game....yadda yadda yadda. After he kicked it he also said, “that could be the sealer” with 7min 30sec of match time left ?.

It’s honestly excruciating to listen to and for me it takes away from the game. 

There are some insufferable Fox Footy commentators but at least they just focus on the game. 

Edited by Pates
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Society has improved in many ways but commentary has gone backwards. Some of the truly great commentators Doug Bigelow; Tony Charlton; Dennis Commetti; Jack Edwards;George Grljusich; Doug Heywood; Peter Landy; Geoff Leek; Drew Morphett; Percy Beames; Lou Richards; Ian Robertson; Mike Williamson; Butch Gale leave current commentators for dead. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Are there any modern commentators that are universally liked though? The discussions about commentators is almost solely about which ones people hate.
 

modern = started commentating post 2000 

I don’t hate Huddo as he doesn’t tolerate too much blokey nonsense, and likes to call the actual play.

I think ‘I don’t hate’ is the best you can hope for.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Nasher said:

AFL commentary is just jobs for the boys. Luke Darcy is a great example. He has a voice like fingernails on a chalkboard and he doesn’t know the players’ names. There had to be thousands of better candidates out there.

Two professional callers who sound good and know the players’ names, with one ex-footballer or coach for special comments that are insightful (aka, not Ling or Dal Santo) would be great. But nah, let’s just fill the box with dribbling morons instead. And Hamish McLaughlin might not be an ex-footballer but I definitely include him in the latter category.

I miss Drew Morphett.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

Society has improved in many ways but commentary has gone backwards. Some of the truly great commentators Doug Bigelow; Tony Charlton; Dennis Commetti; Jack Edwards;George Grljusich; Doug Heywood; Peter Landy; Geoff Leek; Drew Morphett; Percy Beames; Lou Richards; Ian Robertson; Mike Williamson; Butch Gale leave current commentators for dead. 

Every current commentator wants to sound entertaining (of self) and hip - most have descended into the Lou Richards category just above Jack Dyer. I listen to the commentary just for the names of non-Melbourne players and only a few ring a familiarity bell. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Are there any modern commentators that are universally liked though? The discussions about commentators is almost solely about which ones people hate.
 

modern = started commentating post 2000 

AFLW commentating has been good. No over the top hysterical nonsense just straight calling the game. Jason Bennett the best of them. I like abbey Homes as well.

  • Like 1
  • Shocked 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

Channel 7 footy coverage is the TV equivalent of the daily mail. You read it because it’s free and readily available, but it’s also complete trash and you know it. 

Edited by Jaded
  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Has anyone noticed that our some of our players are now at that level where they get talked up as superstars no matter what small thing they do?

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, BAMF said:

Has anyone noticed that our some of our players are now at that level where they get talked up as superstars no matter what small thing they do?

And some are at the level where they get called James Jones and Josh Hunt ?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Deesprate said:

Society has improved in many ways but commentary has gone backwards. Some of the truly great commentators Doug Bigelow; Tony Charlton; Dennis Commetti; Jack Edwards;George Grljusich; Doug Heywood; Peter Landy; Geoff Leek; Drew Morphett; Percy Beames; Lou Richards; Ian Robertson; Mike Williamson; Butch Gale leave current commentators for dead. 

Add Tim Lane and David Parkin to that list.

Special mention to Tommy Lahiff "Are you there Harry?"

Contemporary commentators worth listening to include Daisy Pearce, Jordan Lewis and Jonathon Brown. Gerard Healy and Garry Lyon are generally acceptable if not overexposed.

Edited by Tarax Club
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just looking through responses it makes sense that special comments have value for televised commentary as ex-players can notice and explain what is happening in a (generally) interesting way. Even if their ego is off the charts (e.g Dermie), they actually do have insight into the game. 
 

I listen to and generally enjoy abc radio, but they have to describe what we can’t see. On the television, I guess it shows that there is a real art to calling the game while respecting the intelligence of the viewer. 
 

FWIW, Tim Lane and Denniss Commetti developed this skill, and others like Anthony Hudson are good because like Lane, come from the radio background.

Bruce M had a few good years but became stats obsessed and every question became Rhetorical, but at least he had genuine passion and it wasn’t all about him. This I think is true of guys like Landy, Morphett and even Donegan - they seemed thrilled just to be able to call the greatest game on TV.

 

The curse of modern footy journalists and callers is that the whole thing is a weird branding exercise and massive ego / status anxiety combination that makes a bunch of ‘blokes’ add extra eye liner and hair tints to get attention. But deep down they’re desperate not to lose relevance, which only leaves them end up on the Newman Express. 
 

If you’re reading this 7 - give us some humility, talent and passion, and tell the swinging [censored] they can powder their noses elsewhere. 
 

Over.

 

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ffs. Hamish Mcmoneylan loves the Swans. 
 

“what a great year they’re having. Definitely better than expected and showing great form “. 
 

No mention of the Dees until the last minute.  Richo at least acknowledging the Dees in patches. 
 

why the love affair with the Swans. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Not a single one of that commentary team is good.

Richo is undoubtedly the worst. He adds literally nothing of value. Nothing. Everything he says is meaningless, cliched, guff. He's hopeless. 

McLachlan's a terrible commentator. 70% of what he says is "[club] has kicked X of the last Y goals", or "[club] led by 10, now [other club] leads by 5".

Darcy's actually commentary is fine but his mistakes with names are unforgivable.

Nice toupee too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Ffs. Hamish Mcmoneylan loves the Swans. 
 

“what a great year they’re having. Definitely better than expected and showing great form “. 
 

No mention of the Dees until the last minute.  Richo at least acknowledging the Dees in patches. 
 

why the love affair with the Swans. 

Whenever we’re doing well he always sounds down or disappointed, maybe he does it for everyone except for the tigers. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is like most FTA tv now they try to make it about the presenters and not the game. It is like watching the talent shows that seem to be more about the judges than the talent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Commentary is at an all time low across all mediums.. the need to talk throughout the game is criminal, the amount of great highlights not captured because we are getting history lessons on players .

It comes down to the stations, that must be what they want, but its weak from the networks absolutely pathetic that they are not stronger.

I like personality in my calls but just call the game, dont talk.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Commentary is at an all time low across all mediums.. the need to talk throughout the game is criminal, the amount of great highlights not captured because we are getting history lessons on players .

It comes down to the stations, that must be what they want, but its weak from the networks absolutely pathetic that they are not stronger.

I like personality in my calls but just call the game, dont talk.

I think that part of the problem is that stations hate silence so the commentators have to add drivel to fill the space.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, old dee said:

I think that part of the problem is that stations hate silence so the commentators have to add drivel to fill the space.

Well the people running the stations have lost touch with what their audience wants. This game is constantly moving..  the action needs to be called or let the pictures tell the story.. qtr and half time and pre game is where they can tell us things and have a discussion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guaranteed to upset some, but I rate Mark Howard on Fox. He resists the urge to over commentate, keeping his involvement to the minimum. He also lets the expert commentators give opinion and focusses on play by play calling. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Crowd shots, coaches boxes, players getting a rub down are not what I want to see. FFS show the footy on the big screen and show that other rubbish if you must in the little box. It is very interesting to me to see setups prior  to a ball up. I couldn't care less about seeing coaches talking on the phone. (says old man shouting at the sky)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    OUR GRAND OLD FLAG by George On The Outer

    When an AFL Grand Final approaches, supporters look for omens to help them foresee how their team will fare in the contest.   Melbourne supporters were, until just before Saturday’s opening bounce, the best in the business at looking for positives to give them hope and direction - a natural feeling after 57 years in the wilderness. So when the Bulldogs’ streamers kept slipping from the handle of the Premiership Cup as Glen Jackovich delivered it to Optus Stadium, they wondered whether it

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE ICING ON THE QUAKE by Whispering Jack

    It’s not Christmas yet but if the Melbourne wins its last game of the 2021 season, then many of its fans will be celebrating early. There already are some parts of our town where the pending festivity is preordained. Houses are decked out with red and blue banners and streamers, some of which appeared as early as last Saturday week, on the morning after the Demons’ magnificent 83-point crushing of Geelong in their preliminary final at Optus Stadium. While it’s great to see the numbers of lo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    CAT SKINNING by George On The Outer

    When they defeated the Geelong Cats in the 2021 AFL Preliminary Final on Friday night in Perth, Melbourne proved that there is more than one way to skin those cats.  They did it in the ruck and in the middle, they did it in the forward line, they did it in defence and around the ground, but importantly, each and every player a Demon guernsey spent his night at Optus Stadium skinning an opponent. Following the after-the-siren win against Geelong in Round 23, there was an expectation of

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE POINTY END by The Oracle

    The AFL’s two oldest clubs, Melbourne and Geelong, face off on Friday evening in a sudden death Preliminary Final. It’s a game that promises plenty in terms of fascination and intrigue as a result of the rivalry that’s been building between the teams over recent encounters that have been tight struggles which have gone to the wire with two of them decided by after-the-siren goals. The added touch of mystery attached to this week’s meeting comes by virtue of the fact that it’s going to take

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE VFL YEAR THAT NEVER WAS by KC from Casey

    The rising case numbers and the continuing lockdowns in Victoria and NSW spelled doom for the 2021 VFL season which went through a slow, painful demise before its recent official cancellation. After weeks of indecision, the AFL decided to pull the plug on the season with the 10-0 Bulldogs recognised as minor premier, but without a premiership cup and without awarding the J.J. Liston Medal for the best and fairest VFL player. It was somewhat fortuitous for the integrity of the competition t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    TAMING THE LIONS by George On The Outer

    With nine finals debutants in the side, the Melbourne Football Club had a daunting assignment ahead of it in the First Qualifying Final — to overcome the competition’s highest scoring side, the Brisbane Lions. In the end, the Demons accomplished the task by putting the bite on their opponents on their way to taming the Lions and recording a 33 point win that propelled them into one the two Preliminary Finals of 2021.   It was one of those debutants, Luke Jackson, who put the bite in more

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    RETURN TO NEVERLAND by Whispering Jack

    The greatest Demon A HIGHWAY OF DEMONS by Whispering Jack CHAPTER SIXTEEN - RETURN TO NEVERLAND  I have a six year old grandson who recently took up the family tradition of following the Demons. He had his first taste of the game a few years ago when he went to the “G” with his parents to watch the 107-point massacre of Carlton and he went to another game in the following season which was also a W for the Dees. But his appetite for the club has grown exponentially this year and wh

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 13

    METAMORPHOSIS by Whispering Jack

    I’ve always believed that when the home and away matches come to an end, the football season takes on a completely different shape and character. During the regular season, each team’s goals progress as the weeks pass and if you’re good enough to survive and make the grade, the situation changes. The comparison can be made with the life cycle of a butterfly going through stages from egg to larva to caterpillar, cocoon and in the end to a bright and colourful creature that emerges from darkness i

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    STEALING THE CATS’ CREAM by George On The Outer

    They were leading by 44 points well into the third quarter of a game to decide the minor premier, having kicked nine unanswered goals. The Cats were about to lap up their bowl of cream, dreaming of next week but the Demons led by Max Gawn had other ideas. In a stunning finish, they stole the game from under them to claim the plaudits as best team and top of ladder position. In a remarkable game, it all came down to Max having to kick the winning goal after the final siren, something which s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SKIN THE CATS by Whispering Jack

    The task ahead for the Demons as they wend their way down the Princes Freeway to Geelong on Saturday night will be to skin the Cats. For them to come away with the points from this game would mark an historic occasion for the club as it will finish on top of the ladder for the first time since its last premiership year, 1964. And it was in that year, that a trip to Corio Bay to meet the reigning premiers in Round 12, was one of the catalysts for Melbourne’s surge to the flag. It was a top o

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    REACH FOR THE STARS by George on the Outer

    It was a game of great significance for the Melbourne Football Club. A win would see them keep top spot on the ladder with one round remaining. To achieve top place in the Round for Reach when we are all inspired to “Be Like Jim” and reach for the stars was a great way of honouring one of our heroes. All the better given that it was done by way of an emphatic 41 point win against Adelaide! It is worth remembering that, but for the umpiring mistake in the previous encounter with the Crows, t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    TICKETS PLEASE by The Oracle

    A lot of water has passed under Princes Bridge in the five years since Melbourne last met Adelaide on the MCG. The Crows were riding high at the time while the Demons were mid-table and scrambling for a win to stay in the race for the finals. The 30,000 fans who had tickets to the game were thoroughly entertained by a close, high scoring affair that ended in tears for fans of the home team. Not even an eight-goal second term could help them.   Times have changed.    In the fi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...