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22 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Since when did the word *certainly* become so fashionable within the AFL? 

Curly from the Three Stooges I think. That's where all of their ideas and decisions come from.

 

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I've figured it out. There's an in-joke that I'm not part of, to always just say "drop Melksham" irrespective of how he plays or how the game plays out. That's the only explanation for it.

Sparrow for Harmes. I'm sorry, but apart from 2-3 good moments in that game, Harmes was doing everything we shouldn't be doing. He just plays like old Melbourne.

The boy's are training now (captain's run), Trac moving freely and looking good I've been told. 

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Lets not forget that Max is still the premier ruck in the comp and should largely ruck all day against Pittonet? 

LJ has been a luxury than many clubs don't have where putting him into the ruck doesn't actually weaken our clearance power, and in some ways given his skills at ground level often actually enhances it. Also LJ coming into the ruck allows Max to go forward or back as to fill a whole or to create a mismatch given his size & marking strength, something that LJ hasn't got just yet due to age. 

Am thinking there will be minimal changes again this week, and excited to see Weid come in as the logical replacement for LJ. Doubt there will be any other changes. 

Our defence has conceded the least amount of points this year, I think the most any side has kicked against us is 73 points (Nth and the Saints)  Carlton can score big, but they leak big points as well, I think they will struggle against us this week and our structure.

I am actually for the first time this year expecting a win, and a good one at that, I think we can cover Harry McKay with our talls, Hibberd and or Rivers should be able to cover Betts, and whilst Weitering and Jones are solid defenders their structures down back are horrible, and we are playing 3 talls with Fritsch as a 4th marking option as well. Possibly have Harmes play a defensive game on Walsh perhaps and we should be seeing an 8 goal or more win.

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for them, cripps' back is not in a good place apparently, but he's likely to continue to play 'through the pain' - the last time that carlton got on the front foot and admitted he was crocked he was bog against freo at docklands in a dominant display, so beware the wounded warrior

de koning is apparently set to replace pittonet which means they're going with de koning / casboult vs gawn / one of the key forwards

i can only presume at this stage that weed will come straight in for jackson to maintain consistency of the structure that we have had for the last two weeks

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a fractured back? hells bells, why on earth are they playing him?? what is going on with the duty of care down there?

if meth coke / freo wanna offer him a high salary that gives you band 1 compo then they should let him walk

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1 hour ago, JimmyGadson said:

Since when did the word *certainly* become so fashionable within the AFL? 

 

1 hour ago, demonstone said:

I think it was just after people started saying "anyways" instead of "anyway".

Was that before or after people mis-spelt words like "definately"?

A word about Jackson. (Takes a deep breath)...he's not that good yet. Rarely holds marks and isn't a great kick, although has reasonable ground skills. However, he shows more promise than probably any other ruckman I've seen at the same age. Certainly more than Naitanui, for example. Losing him for a week or two shouldn't be a huge problem. I would like to see Weideman play. However, the club might want to try the ridiculous Richmond approach of having a small player assist Gawn as nominal second ruck. It didn't work previously with Harmes, but I could see Melksham being given that role. In which case, a smaller player such as Sparrow or Chandler might come in. 

To be clear, though, my choice is Weideman for Jackson and no other changes (unless there's a Mystery Injury of the Week).

[Edit: This post aged well. In the time it took to write, Goodwin has apparently confirmed Weideman to play.]

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

Was that before or after people mis-spelt words like "definately"?

A word about Jackson. (Takes a deep breath)...he's not that good yet. Rarely holds marks and isn't a great kick, although has reasonable ground skills. However, he shows more promise than probably any other ruckman I've seen at the same age. Certainly more than Naitanui, for example. Losing him for a week or two shouldn't be a huge problem. I would like to see Weideman play. However, the club might want to try the ridiculous Richmond approach of having a small player assist Gawn as nominal second ruck. It didn't work previously with Harmes, but I could see Melksham being given that role. In which case, a smaller player such as Sparrow or Chandler might come in. 

To be clear, though, my choice is Weideman for Jackson and no other changes (unless there's a Mystery Injury of the Week).

[Edit: This post aged well. In the time it took to write, Goodwin has apparently confirmed Weideman to play.]

he really is THAT good tho

he goes into the middle and changes our structure for the better and gives different avenues of attack at a contested ball situation

he's doing things that a 19 year old sub-20 game player simply shouldn't be capable of doing

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Will be great to see the Weed back!  he will be loving the new game plan and rule changes.

Hopefully we are not too tall / immobile. The tall boys will need to chase and harass that backside's off

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2 hours ago, Brownie said:

 

Still not fussed on Melksham. If it's wet I'd prefer Jones, Sparrow or Chandler in for him but I doubt it will happen.

chance of rain on sunday now decreasing. every chance it will be dry....15/16 deg, med strength winds at game start

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

A word about Jackson. (Takes a deep breath)...he's not that good yet. Rarely holds marks and isn't a great kick, although has reasonable ground skills. However, he shows more promise than probably any other ruckman I've seen at the same age. Certainly more than Naitanui, for example. Losing him for a week or two shouldn't be a huge problem.

No doubt you'll get howled down for this, but couldn't agree more. He's going to be scary good and a matchup nightmare - but he's a couple of years away from justifying the hype. It's easy get carried away by youth - if Weideman had been playing Jackson's role and putting up the same numbers, people would be calling for him to be dropped.

At the moment, Jackson's biggest asset is that he gives us the flexibility to play Gawn behind the ball without giving up ground in the middle. That in itself is a huge achievement for a second year tall - but Weideman can play a similar role and is a much stronger marking target. 

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Agree that Jackson is still developing. Without doubt most exciting potential I've seen. His injury rest won't be an issue and could be beneficial for a young body.

Will be great to see Brown Weid TMac and Fritta working together.

Weid and Brown worked well against the Richmond VFL with Weid basically inside 50 while Brown really surprised me with his mobility taking possessions on the wing and in the back pocket at one stage. He pressed up high and often he was the one who delivered it to Weid. TMac also presses up an Fritta can double back to the spaces left through TMacs mobility.

TMac said he and Brown got to know each other's game a little better last week.. I just hope they don't all compete against each other but work to complement each other.

I would be happy if we beat the blues by two goals each quarter to finish with a comfortable 8 goal win. Really  don't want to blow them away and become overconfident and sloppy, they become desperate, or  the umpires take sympathy on them.

We should win comfortably and also use it as an opportunity to try some different patterns. Wouldn't even mind some different personnel as long as the team is instructed to maintain intensity and scoring outcomes.

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2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

Was that before or after people mis-spelt words like "definately"?

A word about Jackson. (Takes a deep breath)...he's not that good yet. Rarely holds marks and isn't a great kick, although has reasonable ground skills. However, he shows more promise than probably any other ruckman I've seen at the same age. Certainly more than Naitanui, for example. Losing him for a week or two shouldn't be a huge problem. I would like to see Weideman play. However, the club might want to try the ridiculous Richmond approach of having a small player assist Gawn as nominal second ruck. It didn't work previously with Harmes, but I could see Melksham being given that role. In which case, a smaller player such as Sparrow or Chandler might come in. 

To be clear, though, my choice is Weideman for Jackson and no other changes (unless there's a Mystery Injury of the Week).

[Edit: This post aged well. In the time it took to write, Goodwin has apparently confirmed Weideman to play.]

Don't you mean 'defiantly'? That's what I'm getting lately from Year 9 boys.

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17 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I’m not bagging him but I don’t think he has shown enough to get a game in front of anyone in our current team. 
Do you think he is ready to play AFL?

Based on my training reports and matches seen I have NO DOUBT Bowey can play. In fact I think he will turn out better than Caleb Daniel ! A big wrap I know but his disposal and tenacity, skill and footskills look excellent!

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28 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Based on my training reports and matches seen I have NO DOUBT Bowey can play. In fact I think he will turn out better than Caleb Daniel ! A big wrap I know but his disposal and tenacity, skill and footskills look excellent!

That’s a big call! 
I hope you’re right but I don’t have the same level of confidence. 🤞

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Jackson out sucks. Big time. He's not just a "second ruck". His midfield/clearance work when he's up the ground, and particularly in at centre bounces, is strong. Whether Weideman or TMac, they don't have his skill in the clearance work.

Good luck to Weideman. This is his chance. Jackson will come straight back in when he's ready, so Weideman has two weeks to try to convince the FD that someone else should make way for Jackson.

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2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Jackson out sucks. Big time. He's not just a "second ruck". His midfield/clearance work when he's up the ground, and particularly in at centre bounces, is strong. Whether Weideman or TMac, they don't have his skill in the clearance work.

Good luck to Weideman. This is his chance. Jackson will come straight back in when he's ready, so Weideman has two weeks to try to convince the FD that someone else should make way for Jackson.

This.

Jackson is a couple of players rolled up in to one, so is very hard to replace.

Overall we probably gain a bit of goal kicking firepower with Weid coming in, but definitely lose out in the other areas mentioned. 

I'd like to see Sparrow come in with Weid to fill that midfield/clearance/centre bounce gap, maybe at the expense of Melksham?  

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7 hours ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

No doubt you'll get howled down for this, but couldn't agree more. He's going to be scary good and a matchup nightmare - but he's a couple of years away from justifying the hype. It's easy get carried away by youth - if Weideman had been playing Jackson's role and putting up the same numbers, people would be calling for him to be dropped.

At the moment, Jackson's biggest asset is that he gives us the flexibility to play Gawn behind the ball without giving up ground in the middle. That in itself is a huge achievement for a second year tall - but Weideman can play a similar role and is a much stronger marking target. 

Not sure you understand the hype. It is what he might be in two years that everyone is pumped about

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3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

There are lots of very confident Blues supporters around

Surely this a prompt for those that initiate "What are they saying down at Royal Pde"

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5 minutes ago, Demon_spurs said:

I thought the teams this week were going to be announced tonight.

That resumes as from next week.  We'll have to wait until Saturday evening to see our line-up.

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