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14 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Ummm he missed last week and this week and has another 7 days until our next game. How is that not equal to 2 weeks?

It was named in this week's injury report that he will miss the next two games. Sydney and Carlton. 

It's a foot issue, with his history they'll be extra precautionary with it. Wouldn't be surprised if he missed 3 all up.

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Just now, BLWNBA said:

Harmes for Sparrow. 
 

Unfortunately for Harmes he’s a liability. He mad some atrocious errors at some pivotal times in the game and how he was rewarded ahead of Sparrow is beyond me. 
 

I’d rather Jones out there, he offers more and his form has overwhelming been better. 
 

I understand it won’t happen, but that’s what I’d like to see. 

Harmes’ worse was dreadful and overall it wasn’t a good game. I agree it’s staggering he was picked ahead of Sparrow.

But....his work rate is good, his tackling is strong and in the second half he put away the desire to break 7 tackles and gave a few more first options. 

We need midfield fitness and experience with Viney out. And the ability to swap mids and forwards on ball remains a key part of our game. Now that Harmes is in I’d stick with him for another week.

Bring Sparrow in for Melksham and rotate Harmes and Petracca through the forward line more to keep the legs fresh. 

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1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Does this make sense to you now @wizardinoz...

Or are you facepalming because you couldn't understand a simple logic on why I said Viney would

Never saw that. Perhaps you are right. Don't get upset, we shall see next week.

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11 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Harmes’ worse was dreadful and overall it wasn’t a good game. I agree it’s staggering he was picked ahead of Sparrow.

But....his work rate is good, his tackling is strong and in the second half he put away the desire to break 7 tackles and gave a few more first options. 

We need midfield fitness and experience with Viney out. And the ability to swap mids and forwards on ball remains a key part of our game. Now that Harmes is in I’d stick with him for another week.

Bring Sparrow in for Melksham and rotate Harmes and Petracca through the forward line more to keep the legs fresh. 

I thought Hames was actually pretty good. Hard and tough. Not sure about petty though.i suppose he needs a few weeks to be judged. Just looked fumbly, again to me. 

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1 hour ago, MurDoc516 said:

Sparrow for Harmes.

I'm sorry, but apart from 2-3 good moments in that game, Harmes was doing everything we shouldn't be doing. He just plays like old Melbourne.

U must be joking. Sure he buggered up a few times but overall, he was terrific. Have a look at his last quarter  

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25 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Drop Melksham for being a pea heart. You don’t get to play if you don’t respect the jumper.
 

Start a go fund me for Nasher’s blindness. 

God, you are insufferable at times. 

I have an inkling that Fritsch is a front runner with little defensive capability but I won’t call him a ‘pea heart.’

Do people think as they post or are they just flopping it on the keyboard and hoping for the best?

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1 minute ago, rpfc said:

God, you are insufferable at times. 

I have an inkling that Fritsch is a front runner with little defensive capability but I won’t call him a ‘pea heart.’

Do people think as they post or are they just flopping it on the keyboard and hoping for the best?

Fritsch is poor defensively but he flies for his marks with rare courage.

Melksham can’t take a chest mark in 20m of space. Not the first time and unless something is done about it, won’t be the last.

We need his skills in the side but the coaches aren’t doing him or the team favours if they don’t set basics standards on intensity and courage. 

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8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Fritsch is poor defensively but he flies for his marks with rare courage.

Melksham can’t take a chest mark in 20m of space. Not the first time and unless something is done about it, won’t be the last.

We need his skills in the side but the coaches aren’t doing him or the team favours if they don’t set basics standards on intensity and courage. 

Total marks: 

Melksham: 3

Fritsch: 2


Goals from marks:

Melksham: 1

Fritsch: 0

It’s obviously not true that Melksham doesn’t fly for marks. It’s rubbish. The mark he took for a goal was sandwiched in between two players and perfectly judged - taken at the highest point. He very nearly took a speccy where the kick completely favoured his opponent but dropped the slippery ball when he hit the ground. You had decided Melksham sucked before the ball had even been bounced so everything you saw automatically confirmed it. There’s no point in reading anything else from you on this topic. 

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46 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Drop Melksham for being a pea heart. You don’t get to play if you don’t respect the jumper.
 

Start a go fund me for Nasher’s blindness. 

You’re one of my favourite posters. You’re above this crap.

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No change for me.

Harmes is on the fringes and I don’t think we’d lose anything by swapping him for Sparrow but on merit I don’t think you can make a strong enough argument for a change.

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Would love to see Sparrow and Weideman in the team but can't see any changes being made unless they are forced.

Fritsch and Brayshaw probably our worst tonight but can't see either being dropped and nor do I want them to. They have enough credits in the bank though and can't see Sparrow playing the wing better than Brayshaw.

Petty needs some continuity and I have great belief that he will be a staple in our team for a long time to come. He's important for our defensive structure, allowing lever to intercept and McDonald to play forward.

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12 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Total marks: 

Melksham: 3

Fritsch: 2


Goals from marks:

Melksham: 1

Fritsch: 0

It’s obviously not true that Melksham doesn’t fly for marks. It’s rubbish. The mark he took for a goal was sandwiched in between two players and perfectly judged - taken at the highest point. He very nearly took a speccy where the kick completely favoured his opponent but dropped the slippery ball when he hit the ground. You had decided Melksham sucked before the ball had even been bounced so everything you saw automatically confirmed it. There’s no point in reading anything else from you on this topic. 

Melksham‘s mark for goal was a standing uncontested mark. His hanger was nice but he had the sit.

Im talking about flying in contests where his body is genuinely on the line. He doesn’t do it. He doesn’t hit ground balls at pace or chase with intensity either.

Fritsch had a poor game, not sure why he’s been bought in to this. He has to lift his defensive work too but overall he’s had a great season.

I’ve been defensive of Melksham in other weeks. Pretty sure I didn’t want him dropped this week. But his intensity should be lifting and it’s not, and he spilled a simple chest mark that just can’t be tolerated.

We’re playing blue collar team footy that relies on every player rolling up their sleeves. Melksham did that in 2018 but hasn’t since. A week off to set that standard isn’t a huge deal to me. Better to do that now than passively waiting for him to get to a level I believe he can.

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55 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Sparrow for Melksham.

Petracca could do with a light week playing forward. The extra predominant mid will help. 

Plus it’s clear we need more pressure and run if we’re sticking with the tall forward line.

Not 100% sure I follow the logic here...

Presumably you're dropping Melksham for lack of pressure, yet you're saying play Petracca there to give him a 'light week'. Then you're saying we need 'more pressure and run' in the forward line.

I would like to see either Sparrow or (fingers crossed) Viney in for grunt/clearances etc, but I don't think Melksham out and Trac forward to 'rest' is much of a chance to happen.

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NO CHANGE

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I think when we are 8-0 we only make changes on two basis:

1) Injured/forced change (includes overly cautious resting of sore players who are walk up starts)

2) "it's your spot to lose". Once a player is in, and we're winning, you need to play pretty poorly to lose the spot.

 

We didn't get enough from Fritsch or Hunt but neither were dreadful enough to cancel out re ent good form. Others could improve, but not enough to get dropped from someone who didn't play in the VFL.

No change unless forced for me.

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They beat us 17 to 4 in center clearances. That is a problem.  Carlton will murder us if we play like that as they actually have forward who will capitilise on center clearances. I would be bringing in Sparrrow. You can take your pick out of Harmes, Melksham and ANB.

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I think there will be some sore bodies this week and while Trac is a unit he is human. I think he might be given a week to recover from his nasty corkie. 

Sparrow has to be first in line to come in, he was BOG for me in the VFL last week. Our midfield depth gets tested if Trac is given a week to recover. 

Aside from that, no change.

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1 hour ago, Skuit said:

At the risk of sounding like one of our back-in-the-day premiership-witnessing members, Angus Brayshaw needs to quit the podcasts and barbie onions and google machines and concentrate on becoming the best footy player he can be. Trac and Clarry and Salem seem like they've now outgrown him in the maturity-stakes. A spell on the outer worked wonders last time. Is it time for another reminder?

Big problem is, Gus Brayshaw aint Robby Flower's bootlace as a winger.

If he stays he needs to spend time in midfield! 

 

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17 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Not 100% sure I follow the logic here...

Presumably you're dropping Melksham for lack of pressure, yet you're saying play Petracca there to give him a 'light week'. Then you're saying we need 'more pressure and run' in the forward line.

I would like to see either Sparrow or (fingers crossed) Viney in for grunt/clearances etc, but I don't think Melksham out and Trac forward to 'rest' is much of a chance to happen.

Sparrow in for Melk would provide 5 primary on ballers - Oliver, Petracca, JJ, Harmes and Sparrow. That way we can keep them all fresher with lots of forward rotations. 

Petracca brings a lot of pressure and spark to a forward line, he can do that whilst still having a week with less miles on the legs. I’m not suggesting anything drastic just taking 10-20% of his game time on ball, same as Harmes. That way you get a fraction more midfield minutes for Sparrow than would’ve been offered to Melk. 

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I think labelling Melksham a pea heart is poor form from a generally thoughtful poster. 

He showed better intensity this week getting involved in the hard slog. He played his role well IMO.

 

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51 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

I think labelling Melksham a pea heart is poor form from a generally thoughtful poster. 

He showed better intensity this week getting involved in the hard slog. He played his role well IMO.

 

What is a pea heart? I’ve not heard this expression before. 

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I’d like to see Harmes play fwd in Melkshams role, and Sparrow to come in for Melksham. Assuming Viney is still injured. Other than that no change. Having said all that I don’t think any changes we make are going to be the difference so not fussed either way.

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bowey in for hunt he's been down and needs the rocket, been no dash and foot skills for a month now

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3 hours ago, Smokey said:

Not wrong. That’s exactly what you sound like 

For once I agree with Skuit Smokey

Gus needs to concentrate Seriously on  his footy not amateur  clowning and podcast presentations.

To see Trac and  others Improve snd compare the 2018 Gus with now is chalk and cheese.

Time for a wake  up call Gus this is a serious business we are getting into and no passengers are welcome! 

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