Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs North Melbourne


Demonland

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Fanatique Demon said:

There is a lot of talk about Melksham.  Separately there is a lot of talk about playing one’s role...

Everyone is in the team to play their role. Melksham’s role is delivery to a player who can kick a goal or kick goals himself. Yes, it would be better if he tackled more ferociously. But that is not his primary role.

Drop him for not finding a target or kicking goals? Sure, that makes sense. But dropping Melksham for not tackling well or often enough would be like dropping Frisch for not taking intercept marks.

 

Except take a look at the replay, he had times where he was right beside a player (ie: Cunnington) in our forward line and was soft and didn't make a tackle or an impact. I don't like calling players soft, but in that case it was clear cut to tackle and he didn't.  Really disappointed me today. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I’ve learnt a few things today

1.     Never get ahead of yourself when it comes to the Dees

2.     Never underestimate North in Hobart

3.     How percentage works

Over and out

  • Like 5
  • Haha 10
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Fine. I knew my post would draw a response and I am happy not to agree on everything. 

But while we’re at it, there is a lot of bias on this forum that is not backed up by facts. People don’t like Melksham and actively look for things he does wrong or doesn’t do at all. So, some facts from today’s game:

Spargo 10 disposals, 2 tackles and 7 pressure acts.

Jones 14 disposals, 2 tackles, 11 pressure acts.

Melksham 17 disposals, 3 tackles and 18 pressure acts.

 

Now that everyone has decided they hate Melksham it won’t matter what he does. They will scrutinise every action he does, confirmation bias will mean they see everything not quite up to scratch (but overlook it in his teammates) and conveniently miss his positive contribution. Best just ignore it.

  • Like 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Fine. I knew my post would draw a response and I am happy not to agree on everything. 

But while we’re at it, there is a lot of bias on this forum that is not backed up by facts. People don’t like Melksham and actively look for things he does wrong or doesn’t do at all. So, some facts from today’s game:

Spargo 10 disposals, 2 tackles and 7 pressure acts.

Jones 14 disposals, 2 tackles, 11 pressure acts.

Melksham 17 disposals, 3 tackles and 18 pressure acts.

 

Tackles and pressure acts are easy when you're second to the ball in the midfield, and it looked like Melksham played a lot of that game in the midfield.

Hardwick last week talked about pressure 'post clearance', because any team can get pressure on at a clearance with a dozen players around the ball, it's the pressure you apply when the ball is loose in space that defines your overall pressure.

Melksham just doesn't change direction quick enough to put pressure on in space. Maybe it's just lack of physical ability to do so, he's quite a stiff player, but I don't think that's a total excuse. He seems to lack intensity.

Then there's the other part of his game which is he just isn't hard enough at the contest. Again he's stiff, he's upright, his head and body is away from the action. These guys get coached day after day on how to win contested ball. There's no excuse for not committing the body over the ball and securing it. Paul Roos turned a rubbish Melbourne side in to at least a competitive scrappy team purely on the basis of getting your head over the ball and picking it up without fumbling.

Oh and today's newest rubbish action in his game - not being able to fight through a tackle to handball and instead attempting silly little kicks when under pressure. Net result = turnover. If he is in the midfield more he has to fight through tackles and get the ball free safely.

Overall he mixed in some good stuff today, he'll almost certainly keep his spot in the side for at least next week, but he can't be 20% down on intensity week after week and just coast because he can mix in the occasional good kick. If we want to be a finals side we need every player bringing finals like intensity.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Something I’m big on is coming to play every week. Would of loved to see the response a quarter earlier than what it came, but none the less it came. We continue to learn and continue to grow as a side. Whilst we remain unbeaten and in the top 4 we will be hunted more than what we’ve experienced before. 
 

Kozi and Jackson are both future stars, they just seem to be in everything. Love watching both of them play.

Gutted for Tomlinson, was having a great season, he will be missed.

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites


9 minutes ago, The Jackson 6 said:

Go home DreamTeam points, you’re drunk

C6540338-8A8A-4182-A4A8-0B48210DBFC1.jpeg

Thought Turner played really well personally. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, dl4e said:

We play like that again we will not win another game of footy. The only time they showed up was for about 7 or so minutes in the third. Most of them played like they had taken a shot of smack before the game, just running up and down on the spot.

Accidently took Indica instead of Sativa before the bounce....mistake realised at half time. ..Sativa FTW!

  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I thought his possessions were fairly sloppy. Didn’t kick to the advantage of leading forwards on a couple occasions. Laying tackles because you are second to the ball isn’t often recorded as a stat

I thought his kicking was the best part of his game! Had a few nicer kicks dropped and didn't fluff many (or maybe any?). He's constantly half a second slow to react and pressure and he has very little idea on how to contest. I'd like to see him played at half back at Casey to develop his contested game. 

His run and carry and penetrating kick could be a weapon if he developed the rest of his game.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Fine. I knew my post would draw a response and I am happy not to agree on everything. 

But while we’re at it, there is a lot of bias on this forum that is not backed up by facts. People don’t like Melksham and actively look for things he does wrong or doesn’t do at all. So, some facts from today’s game:

Spargo 10 disposals, 2 tackles and 7 pressure acts.

Jones 14 disposals, 2 tackles, 11 pressure acts.

Melksham 17 disposals, 3 tackles and 18 pressure acts.

 

Just watched the 2nd half replay. This was evident. I thought Jonesey did a bit, so 1st half must have been eerily quiet.

Also Spargo and ANB were clearly off

I'd posited earlier in the week about being concerned about our ability to keep our run amd intensity  -  we were flat today. But we have a bit of depth, so hopefully can refresh well

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I thought Chunky Jones was excellent nearly all game. Composed and did some damaging things! Definately plays next week. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Incorrect.  Its all to do with each weeks winning margin and its % relationship to the losers  (the other teams) score in points.

Yes I know. For and Against 

and as each of those columns are added to, the % will change less (unless there is a massive blowout). 
Todays result when added to the 2 columns actually lowers our % by a small margin 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Did anyone get a lot of texts from mates at half time/ early in the 3rd?

i felt pretty popular there for a minute 

Yeah, a few Hawks chirped up. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I thought his kicking was the best part of his game! Had a few nicer kicks dropped and didn't fluff many (or maybe any?). He's constantly half a second slow to react and pressure and he has very little idea on how to contest. I'd like to see him played at half back at Casey to develop his contested game. 

His run and carry and penetrating kick could be a weapon if he developed the rest of his game.

Agree - I thought that he was more composed than usual today. And he worked really hard to be an outlet on a number of occasions and marked well.

melksham appears to be the new spargo or ANB on this site, but his want to submit to the tackle and try a kick on the way down created a lot turnovers for us. Just focus on getting a handball please!

ANB had a bad day, second guessing himself with decision making. Enough credits in the bank so far this season - but also needs to take the first option.

god I love our new guys. Jackson, Kozi and even JJ were a big reason we turned it around. No mental scaring - unlike all of us, and I’d think a few of their teammates, 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I thought his kicking was the best part of his game! Had a few nicer kicks dropped and didn't fluff many (or maybe any?). He's constantly half a second slow to react and pressure and he has very little idea on how to contest. I'd like to see him played at half back at Casey to develop his contested game. 

His run and carry and penetrating kick could be a weapon if he developed the rest of his game.

I must have be on my own and watched a different game. I thought it was as poor as a performance as you'll see.

I'm honestly also yet to see this supposed run and carry that he's suppose to bring bring the table. All I see is dinky little 20m chip and no follow up to get the handball receive. Do be honest he's no different to say Brayshaw in terms of style of play when playing on the wing. Difference is, Brayshaw is a better footballer.

If we are fair dinkum as a footy side then Baker simply does not play in this football club until he gets the basics right. 

Right now I have about 5 other blokes I'd rather be playing then Baker.

  • Like 9
Link to comment
Share on other sites

i think this is one of our more significant wins in recent memory, mostly because it's a classic MFC game to drop. North were all over us, but one things we've done really well this year is not panic, and we finish games so strongly we can run over teams like this. 

Ben Brown looked a little bit rusty i thought, but he will get better, would have to think if Tmac is going to stay back now, that Weid comes and teams up with Brown and Jackson up forward 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

That was a very disappointing game from ANB. It's almost like he reverted back to his old way. He's got credits in the bank for now, but if he puts in another performance like that then he could be in trouble, especially with Chandler and Bedford breathing down his neck.

Must step up next week 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

i think this is one of our more significant wins in recent memory, mostly because it's a classic MFC game to drop. North were all over us, but one things we've done really well this year is not panic, and we finish games so strongly we can run over teams like this. 

Ben Brown looked a little bit rusty i thought, but he will get better, would have to think if Tmac is going to stay back now, that Weid comes and teams up with Brown and Jackson up forward 

Geez Ben Brown has a straight kick. Can’t wait for him to get a bit more separation on his defender and he’ll kick a bag

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I must have be on my own and watched a different game. I thought it was as poor as a performance as you'll see.

I'm honestly also yet to see this supposed run and carry that he's suppose to bring bring the table. All I see is dinky little 20m chip and no follow up to get the handball receive. Do be honest he's no different to say Brayshaw in terms of style of play when playing on the wing. Difference is, Brayshaw is a better footballer.

If we are fair dinkum as a footy side then Baker simply does not play in this football club until he gets the basics right. 

Right now I have about 5 other blokes I'd rather be playing then Baker.

He certainly popped a few up today and whilst they were worrying they did land safely! He can flatten them out too - mostly on going for goal. He's certainly not a great kick but he does have upside there. He got on the burst a few times, didn't exactly break it open but there were times - used and unused - where he was running. He certainly has acceleration that Gus doesn't. But yeah, his kicking was better than anything else he did only because it was ok not bad.

Otherwise I totally agree that he was poor and isn't high on my list, I was shocked he was picked. But short on Rosman going from fringe VFL player to AFL player in the next 10 weeks there's really no one else who can bring pace on the wing.

Maybe that's ok. We've got Langdon. We've got Hunt at half back. We just live with some combination of Gus and maybe mix in some Harmes, Sparrow, JJ etc. 

Marlion Pickett and Liam Baker both created big openings against us. I can see why the coaches were thinking let's use this chance to have a look at Baker now, then we can try it again later on. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

That was a very disappointing game from ANB. It's almost like he reverted back to his old way. He's got credits in the bank for now, but if he puts in another performance like that then he could be in trouble, especially with Chandler and Bedford breathing down his neck.

Must step up next week 

It was comically bad. Like he'd forgotten the rules or forgotten how to dispose of the ball. All progress with taking the easy option, not fumbling and making clear decisions was lost. 

It was the 2nd worst thing I saw all game, just behind Petracca waddling off the mark and getting called to play on repeatedly.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 262

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...