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48 minutes ago, dice said:

I see our resident Richmond witch has finally awoken and posted something about us at 5am this morning:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-curious-case-of-glen-bartlett-s-departure-from-the-demons-20210518-p57t1r.html

Surprised she didn't mention tanking.

I'm not sure what you're concern is here...it's a great article and gives background to what went on behind the scenes.

It also gives me more faith that we have the right person in the job now.

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58 minutes ago, dice said:

I see our resident Richmond witch has finally awoken and posted something about us at 5am this morning:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-curious-case-of-glen-bartlett-s-departure-from-the-demons-20210518-p57t1r.html

Surprised she didn't mention tanking.

She peppers the article with so many cryptic riddles that we still don’t know the true reasons why Bartlett left. 

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3 hours ago, rjay said:

I'm not sure what you're concern is here...it's a great article and gives background to what went on behind the scenes.

It also gives me more faith that we have the right person in the job now.

Bartlett did a fine job given the circumstances.  And he was right to question Goodwin's role as any President is entitled to do

I've been a supporter of Goodwin throughout but with the odd question mark ... more so over selection issues.  Many others wanted him out

Lets face it,  we fell off the perch after 2018 so questions had to be asked as a matter of course

Most of what was written in that article we already knew.  

Bartlett overseeing major change to the FD whilst almost certainly taking away a few of Goodwin's responsibilities (just my opinion) is a very good way to go out on

I thank him for his efforts over the years in turning the club around from a basket-case to a vibrant, viable proposition

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10 minutes ago, rjay said:

I'm not sure what you're concern is here...it's a great article and gives background to what went on behind the scenes.

It also gives me more faith that we have the right person in the job now.

My concern is that this happened 6 weeks ago. So why dig it up now? It is old news.

Call me paranoid, but she always seems to undermine us with her articles. Been happening for the past 20 years or so.

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On 4/10/2021 at 10:28 PM, dl4e said:

Well at least he is not Norm Smith. Lets take a different view of it maybe it is a good thing ?

All these MFCSS members always looking at the worse, the man is tired anyone can see this, some club's have a a maximum amount of years someone  can be a president, we don't want to become Collingwood where someone thinks they are bigger then the club

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People are just sooking because they've decided they hate Caro and anything she writes about us.

Thought it was a great article. Balanced, insightful and gave me even more hope in Roffey.

As far as things I've heard, and things I've read here from reputable posters, it's all spot on.

Calling her a "witch" doesn't exactly cover you in glory either.

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I think it was a very interesting article.

I was pleased that the Minister of Sport attended the function because thats where the initial funding will come from for our new facilities.

I liked Howcroft simply because he worked the aisles on game day.

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30 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

People are just sooking because they've decided they hate Caro and anything she writes about us.

Thought it was a great article. Balanced, insightful and gave me even more hope in Roffey.

As far as things I've heard, and things I've read here from reputable posters, it's all spot on.

Calling her a "witch" doesn't exactly cover you in glory either.

Agree - a well written piece.  A lot of Demonlanders are absurdly paranoid about Wilson.

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This article doesn't tell us anything we do'n't already know. In fact i don't think we've heard the real reasons yet.

I think Bartlett deserves plenty of credit for helping sort us out when we were a rabble. He and Jackson laid the foundation, along with others, for our current success.

That said, I think the time was right for a change. He was into his 8th year I think which is fair stint so a fresh face with a different approach and ideas was due. There is a good reason why many institutions have term limits. After a while even the best operator runs out of ideas and becomes stale.

The one bit of the narrative around his departure I don’t like is the idea that his spray after the Port shambles was somehow unwarranted. As a long suffering supporter I was delighted he gave the FD a bake. It was long overdue imv (and our record since then has been excellent so who’s to say it wasn’t in fact a positive)

The board election issue around Perter Lawrence and the manner in which he was effectively disendorsed confuses me. The nominations committee were responsible for that process and is headed up by Mohan Jesudason. I don’t get why the finger is being pointed squarely at Bartlett alone. I’m not familiar with the constitution but I doubt he could pull rank or hijack the process without the noms committee say so. And a number of board members were re-appointed through that process. If Kate Roffey is now saying the process did not follow best governance practice then there are plenty of current board members who were involved. I wonder whether all is well inside the tent!

Anyways, the team is doing well so the focus is not on the board. I hope Kate is a success, I’ve been impressed with her public performances thus far. But aside from on-field success, which looks like it’s finally arrived, this board and president will be assessed based on delivery of a new home base. If we aren’t making an announcement regarding the location in the near future then the anger will start to mount.

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And another thing i'd say is that the current board are controlling the narrative and painting a certain picture for us. I'd like to hear Bartlett's side of the story which i doubt is reflected in this article.

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4 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

The one bit of the narrative around his departure I don’t like is the idea that his spray after the Port shambles was somehow unwarranted. As a long suffering supporter I was delighted he gave the FD a bake. It was long overdue imv (and our record since then has been excellent so who’s to say it wasn’t in fact a positive)

I haven't read anywhere someone label it as "unwarranted". I don't think that's the narrative at all. It's all been about Bartlett's process of doing it. He just went off half cocked without going through the proper channels or handling it internally first. Good clubs, and presidents, don't just look to go off emotionally in public without at least discussing it inside the walls first. He wasn't wrong in what he said, but he went about it in completely the wrong way.

I also find this assertion people make that somehow his bake of the coach and players is responsible for our wins since completely ridiculous and shallow. There's clearly a ton of factors that played a part in that on the list before you get down to the president making an emotional comment in the media. Hardly think that's the recipe for team success.

 

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9 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

And another thing i'd say is that the current board are controlling the narrative and painting a certain picture for us. I'd like to hear Bartlett's side of the story which i doubt is reflected in this article.

I agree.

i believe we have much to thank Glen Bartlett for and whilst there were some mentions of his achievements they were swamped by an otherwise critical piece 

gaming, gone 

leighoak sold for a fortune 
club’s finances in a state we could only have dreamed of 10 years ago 

 Anzac Eve, a special night for Dees 
sound, settled administration.

 

many thanks Glen!

 

 

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That article from Caro was a good read - I wanted to know why he was forced out and why he relented so easily. 

I was as angry with her back in the non-tanking saga as the next Demon but she is usually one of the better journos at finding out what the machinations are and forming a coherent narrative of why your Prez upped and quit 3 games into a promising season.

And I now understand why the board acted, and I think they made the right decision; Goodwin, at that point, may have been under pressure, but he didn’t need the club to undermine him.

And Roffey’s desire to unite the club affirms her as the right person for the next few years. This is my crusade against some of you ‘scorched earthers’ - the club needs to welcome back all Demons. Pride be damned.

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Great read! certainly don't understand the negativity! I've always found Caro to be a measured and well researched journo on the most part. 

This certainly sheds some light on the situation with Bartlett, and fills me with confidence we've made the right choice. it is difficult to see how a president behaving that way wouldn't have been de-stabalising to the club, and i do wonder how significant that was as a factor in us missing finals last season. 

 

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45 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

And another thing i'd say is that the current board are controlling the narrative and painting a certain picture for us. I'd like to hear Bartlett's side of the story which i doubt is reflected in this article.

Both of your responses were interesting. I was disappointed with the article.  Not because we don’t know that Caro has it in for us, and Bartlett in particular after the 2018 article on the eve of the prelim and his response. But where does she get her stuff from? It seems like Peter Jackson for some of it which is annoying.  But I didn’t know any of the issues around Bartlett taking a hard line on Goodwin and others wanting a more supportive approach. Did she base that on a spray last year, or is the board now full of leaky holes since the change.  If the latter, then at 9-0 the narrative that the board did the right thing is easy right now. If we hit some poor form or issues, then I’m actually a bit worried what might come out considering the number of coach and admin changes that happened over the off season and if Kate presides over a leaky board then that is a really bad development. 

Also the narrative that it is Bartlett’s failing alone that has not delivered a home base is curious. The buck stops with the President, but since Jackson and Bartlett developed the Jolimont proposal, announced in mid 2018, Kate was handed responsibility as head of the infrastructure task force shortly after (and I assume Pert was selected as CEO due to his infrastructure experience at Collingwood). I think that was a great thing for Bartlett to do considering Kate and Perts collective experience in the precinct. It’s disappointing that the narrative now seems to blame Bartlett for lack of progress here.  Kate, none of the members are stupid. We all know this has been delegated to you for over 2 years.  How about telling us where it is at, good or bad. We are big enough to deal with reality.

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47 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

This article doesn't tell us anything we do'n't already know. In fact i don't think we've heard the real reasons yet.

I think Bartlett deserves plenty of credit for helping sort us out when we were a rabble. He and Jackson laid the foundation, along with others, for our current success.

That said, I think the time was right for a change. He was into his 8th year I think which is fair stint so a fresh face with a different approach and ideas was due. There is a good reason why many institutions have term limits. After a while even the best operator runs out of ideas and becomes stale.

The one bit of the narrative around his departure I don’t like is the idea that his spray after the Port shambles was somehow unwarranted. As a long suffering supporter I was delighted he gave the FD a bake. It was long overdue imv (and our record since then has been excellent so who’s to say it wasn’t in fact a positive)

The board election issue around Perter Lawrence and the manner in which he was effectively disendorsed confuses me. The nominations committee were responsible for that process and is headed up by Mohan Jesudason. I don’t get why the finger is being pointed squarely at Bartlett alone. I’m not familiar with the constitution but I doubt he could pull rank or hijack the process without the noms committee say so. And a number of board members were re-appointed through that process. If Kate Roffey is now saying the process did not follow best governance practice then there are plenty of current board members who were involved. I wonder whether all is well inside the tent!

Anyways, the team is doing well so the focus is not on the board. I hope Kate is a success, I’ve been impressed with her public performances thus far. But aside from on-field success, which looks like it’s finally arrived, this board and president will be assessed based on delivery of a new home base. If we aren’t making an announcement regarding the location in the near future then the anger will start to mount.

I think the article further articulated the fact that Bartlett was gunning for Goodwin because he was worried the poor performance would come back onto his head for giving the contract extension to Goodwin in 2019. The board seem to have been worried about this destabilisation from Bartlett and so he lost their confidence. His outburst after the Port game last year (warranted or not) was a symptom of this.

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It's a good article. I've no problems with it. Reckon some need to calm the [censored] down.

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Not sure where “the undermining” is. It’s an interesting story, and correct from what I’ve heard. 

Personally, I was disgusted with Bartlett’s conduct of the last election earlier this year. It showed that we were sub-optimal in the leadership department at board level. I was worried that we might be faced with the exquisite dilemma of having good performance on the field giving cover for, well....sub-optimal board performance. That’s not a sustainable situation. Historically, board change generally comes on the back of on-field disarray; we needed the first part, but certainly didn’t want to endure the second part as a necessary precursor.

Somehow magically we have had some renovation of the board while the team is still flying. 

It’s actually a good news story. 

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1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

Agree - a well written piece.  A lot of Demonlanders are absurdly paranoid about Wilson.

I'm just thankful that we are relevant again!!! We've been in the wilderness for far too long.

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Good article I enjoyed the read. Some insights into things I didn’t quite know about or understand. It does sound like Roffey has had a dream start and has really managed to unite the past and present figures. Something Jimmy had a great ability to do (From what I observed anyway).

 

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Wonder who her sources are?

She's been running this angle for a while now, around a year. Back when the ex-players linked to Steven Smith as Bartlett replacement. 

Seems to me someone has been feeding her info to undermine Bartlett. Hope that person is not part of the future of the board.

She's does seem to enjoy delivering a clubbing to those she dislikes, she didn't miss Bartlett with this one

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