Casey Demons vs Williamstown

[Cranky Franky 1,483]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

What a debacle

the VFL still doing pre-season pratice matches when we are up to round 4.

Amateur hour

 

Agree a disaster for those players outside the 22 trying to get match fit & impress.  And there are still 3 byes a year for teams. The VFL is continually degraded & it is our loss.

Maybe Gil & the executives could take a paycut & divert the $ to the VFL.

[Slartibartfast 15,757]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

The issue is game time for those that aren't in the seniors. How does a Melksham for example get match fit....?

But they play matches just not for points.  I don't see the issue.  Practice matches might actually be better because they will have more flexibility.  I'd understand if there were no matches but there are.  We played an intra club with the Casey boys last week. All the players would have a good hit out. 

We play Willy this week.  It's no different from a VFL match for points.  It's a non issue as long as there are matches.

The real issue is byes during the season.  That's rubbish.

Edited April 7, 2021 by Baghdad Bob

[Cranky Franky 1,483]

18 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

But they play matches just not for points.  I don't see the issue.  Practice matches might actually be better because they will have more flexibility.  I'd understand if there were no matches but there are.  We played an intra club with the Casey boys last week. All the players would have a good hit out. 

We play Willy this week.  It's no different from a VFL match for points.  It's a non issue as long as there are matches.

The real issue is byes during the season.  That's rubbish.

The issue is the continual demise of the lower competitions. It will have a lasting negative impact on the game.

There used to be 20 VFL teams with reserves & junior teams. Plus the Federal league and lots of suburban & bush leagues. 

[whatwhat say what 18,885]

fwiw, the sanfl kicked off last weekend

[Diamond_Jim 11,731]

6 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

The issue is the continual demise of the lower competitions. It will have a lasting negative impact on the game.

There used to be 20 VFL teams with reserves & junior teams. Plus the Federal league and lots of suburban & bush leagues. 

there were some great comps.

I was lucky enough to attend a match between Redcliffs and Mildura in the early 80's. Probably a crowd of around one thousand and vigourous supporting of both sides.

And of course during the 70's the VFA's televised Sunday game was almost game of the week.

Then slowly but surely the AFL sucked the money out of every comp and now they complain that they have to support grass roots footy.

Sure it's progress but you have to wonder if it could be done better...

[leave it to deever 15,315]

4 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Possible Casey forward line this week

 

HF   Chandler     Weideman    Melksham

F     M Brown     B Brown       Bedford

 

Rosman and Laurie buzzing around.   Couldn't even fit big Majak in  (could swap him with Mitch though).

Pretty handy.    

It will be good to see b.b in a melbourne colours.

[old dee 22,843]

20 hours ago, jnrmac said:

The issue is game time for those that aren't in the seniors. How does a Melksham for example get match fit....?

With less rotations, the possibility of player fatigue is high and the ability of clubs to manage the fitness of their player rosters is compromised.

 

You have my vote.

[Deemania since 56 6,132]

17 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

It will be good to see b.b in a melbourne colours.

It is (the forward line) potent on paper and most probably, onfield. This 'return from injury' list is vital to the MFC season - and great interest in the game itself exists because of that reinforcement to Casey - ultimately to the AFL side, as well. 

As members, supporters, fans and Demon-loyal advocates, it is essential that some form of game reporting (in full) takes place for this match between Casey and Williamstown. A club-organised broadcast on the MFC Web page would be ideal - and not too difficult to organise, either,  if the Club had its supporters in mind. The information gleaned for the public from this VFL match has equal significance as the AFL match this weekend against Geelong. Make it happen, MFC, make it happen. 

[old dee 22,843]

22 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

It is (the forward line) potent on paper and most probably, onfield. This 'return from injury' list is vital to the MFC season - and great interest in the game itself exists because of that reinforcement to Casey - ultimately to the AFL side, as well. 

As members, supporters, fans and Demon-loyal advocates, it is essential that some form of game reporting (in full) takes place for this match between Casey and Williamstown. A club-organised broadcast on the MFC Web page would be ideal - and not too difficult to organise, either,  if the Club had its supporters in mind. The information gleaned for the public from this VFL match has equal significance as the AFL match this weekend against Geelong. Make it happen, MFC, make it happen. 

Have you sent that to the club? 

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

On 4/7/2021 at 9:06 AM, 58er said:

Fritta needs to stop leading into the pockets Very rarely leads within the 45 deg arc and should concentrate on that.

Having said that his 2 set shots on Sunday  were Spot on. Really knows how to set the ball. 

 

That's flawed logic isn't it? You lead where the space is.

Otherwise, why not just stand still in the goal square and take all of your shots from 1m out?

[Diamond_Jim 11,731]

Interesting article in the Guardian today on County cricket in England using automatic cameras to stream matches free of charge.

Would love to see these used in VFL and potentially in AFL for additional coverage.

The technology is obviously rather good these days.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/apr/07/full-stream-ahead-county-cricket-rolls-out-digital-revolution-for-championship

PS.. just noticed what I thought was a picture of a very fancy auto camera has a person out of frame ?

Edited April 8, 2021 by Diamond_Jim

[bush demon 1,881]

20 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

there were some great comps.

I was lucky enough to attend a match between Redcliffs and Mildura in the early 80's. Probably a crowd of around one thousand and vigourous supporting of both sides.

And of course during the 70's the VFA's televised Sunday game was almost game of the week.

Then slowly but surely the AFL sucked the money out of every comp and now they complain that they have to support grass roots footy.

Sure it's progress but you have to wonder if it could be done better...

And now we have the marketed  fiction that AFL gives money to the clubs when in fact it is the clubs that give money to the AFL, and the grass roots which gives free and ongoing good will to the top tier competition. Without which it could not survive.

[old dee 22,843]

20 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

there were some great comps.

I was lucky enough to attend a match between Redcliffs and Mildura in the early 80's. Probably a crowd of around one thousand and vigourous supporting of both sides.

And of course during the 70's the VFA's televised Sunday game was almost game of the week.

Then slowly but surely the AFL sucked the money out of every comp and now they complain that they have to support grass roots footy.

Sure it's progress but you have to wonder if it could be done better...

Sadly Progress is not always positive DJ

[Deemania since 56 6,132]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Have you sent that to the club? 

Nope, Someone else can do that if they can add to it those thoughts that they may be ruminating upon. Good idea, though, OD.

[defuture15 844]

Can we attend the practice match?

[Cheap Seats 3,300]

37 minutes ago, defuture15 said:

Can we attend the practice match?

[Earl Hood 5,788]

54 minutes ago, defuture15 said:

Can we attend the practice match?

Yes but the gates will be closed. Just joking but it would not surprise me this year.  Members/fans have been treated like [censored].

[defuture15 844]

Don't want to drive 4 hours to be locked out!

[58er 5,607]

12 hours ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

That's flawed logic isn't it? You lead where the space is.

Otherwise, why not just stand still in the goal square and take all of your shots from 1m out?

Well how do our opponents find room to lead straight out and not in pockets.

Its a bad habit where he leads and can be changed with practice and his accuracy and our score we I'll be the beneficiaries.

Fritta is a very highly skilled player who With  a few Tweaks can become an A grader.  He is a 50 goal plus forward without doubt. 

[58er 5,607]

12 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

It is (the forward line) potent on paper and most probably, onfield. This 'return from injury' list is vital to the MFC season - and great interest in the game itself exists because of that reinforcement to Casey - ultimately to the AFL side, as well. 

As members, supporters, fans and Demon-loyal advocates, it is essential that some form of game reporting (in full) takes place for this match between Casey and Williamstown. A club-organised broadcast on the MFC Web page would be ideal - and not too difficult to organise, either,  if the Club had its supporters in mind. The information gleaned for the public from this VFL match has equal significance as the AFL match this weekend against Geelong. Make it happen, MFC, make it happen. 

D56 your enthusiasm is admirable but your judgement way off. Yes it's important for 10 potential AFL Melb  FC players who happen to have been injured early in 2021 and are all in various stages of returning to full fitness. Plus some younger recruits development are also under the eye.

BUT as important as the Dees vsCats game on Sunday really ????? There are 4 pts on this for starters and 23 players creating their own history for this famously under performing Club for over Half a century.

 

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

5 minutes ago, 58er said:

Well how do our opponents find room to lead straight out and not in pockets.

Its a bad habit where he leads and can be changed with practice and his accuracy and our score we I'll be the beneficiaries.

Fritta is a very highly skilled player who With  a few Tweaks can become an A grader.  He is a 50 goal plus forward without doubt. 

Leading into the pockets is the very thing that opens up the middle of the ground for key forwards. We don't have key forwards (yet).

For every kick that hits Fritta in the pocket, there's a bunch of kicks that go to the space he creates by leading away from the middle.

I understand the argument and I'd rather see him shooting for goal 40 metres out straight in front than on these acute angle he finds himself on but I think its important to have a look at the choices he has at any given time and take account of the overall result for the team..

[Deemania since 56 6,132]

10 hours ago, 58er said:

D56 your enthusiasm is admirable but your judgement way off. Yes it's important for 10 potential AFL Melb  FC players who happen to have been injured early in 2021 and are all in various stages of returning to full fitness. Plus some younger recruits development are also under the eye.

BUT as important as the Dees vsCats game on Sunday really ????? There are 4 pts on this for starters and 23 players creating their own history for this famously under performing Club for over Half a century.

 

Equal importance and from my perspective at this point, slightly more important as an interim informational pathway. That is not '...way off...', that is how the further information that I - as an inter-Stater - could best be evaluated as there is seldom Demon information over here, other than DL and a less than useful MFC/AFL site(s) coverage. There is an exception, PF's informative coverage of both training and other Club observations but it is not fair of us to expect PF to carry the full load for fans.

The four points this weekend is not where this highway of success or failure ends. That stretch of bitumen extends for months and we will need another 14 victories to assure a spot in the finals this year. In anticipation of this success, Casey information this week - and possibly a succession of weeks to come - is critical to some of the thoughts that Demaon fans might entertain themselves.

 

 

[hells bells 2,022]

I'm going to try to get there.  If I can make it, I'll do my best to provide some updates. 

[mauriesy 6,787]

23 hours ago, bush demon said:

And now we have the marketed  fiction that AFL gives money to the clubs when in fact it is the clubs that give money to the AFL, and the grass roots which gives free and ongoing good will to the top tier competition. Without which it could not survive.

Just a note that the AFL abolished all affiliation fees for country football leagues in 2018. Maybe too late, but at least it was done.

[bush demon 1,881]

4 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Just a note that the AFL abolished all affiliation fees for country football leagues in 2018. Maybe too late, but at least it was done.

I am saying that the grass roots underpinning of 'Australian rules' is what holds up football, not 'Head Office'.