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Some randoms gleaned from the Pure Footy podcast:

Melbourne are only conceding scores from 30.6% of i-50s - the stingiest ever for a team after round 4. 

Melbourne should be scoring a predictive 101.8 points p/g (currently 89.5). 

This part was unclear if related to the above or not: we're currently generating the second-hardest shots profile. 

Adam Tomlinson has lost 1 out of 19 one-on-one contests since shifting to defence in round 10 last year. 

21 players have played every game so far this year (obviously set to dip this week). 

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Some randoms gleaned from the Pure Footy podcast: Melbourne are only conceding scores from 30.6% of i-50s - the stingiest ever for a team after round 4.  Melbourne should be scoring a predic

35 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Some randoms gleaned from the Pure Footy podcast:

Melbourne are only conceding scores from 30.6% of i-50s - the stingiest ever for a team after round 4. 

Melbourne should be scoring a predictive 101.8 points p/g (currently 89.5). 

This part was unclear if related to the above or not: we're currently generating the second-hardest shots profile. 

Adam Tomlinson has lost 1 out of 19 one-on-one contests since shifting to defence in round 10 last year. 

21 players have played every game so far this year (obviously set to dip this week). 

 

We have kicked more behinds than points in 3 out of the 4 games with the one game when we where in the positive GWS kicked 11.2 Geelong even  had 9.3 at one stage. So while we have kicked bad our opposition have been kicking straight. The wheel will turn.

 

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On 4/15/2021 at 11:57 AM, Little Goffy said:

I've been enjoying picking over some individual curiosity stats that often don't mean much but which can be amusing.

First up, we have two players in the top-10 of disposals per game - Oliver of course, at third and only a whisker behind Mitchell and Macrae, and then Petracca at 8th.  Both also feature in clearances, with Oliver slipping slightly to ninth, Petracca in 23rd and Viney in 15th giving us three inside the top 25.

Viney is back to his hunter-killer ways with more than 8 tackles a game putting him at 4th on average and thanks to a quick. James Jordan also in 4th place for tackles among rising star eligible players.  Pretty sure 'JJ' is also 'Junior Junior'.

Petracca is equal 4th for inside 50s, just ahead of Martin, which is nice.

No surprise, Gawn is second to Grundy for total hitouts but is better than Grundy on every other conceivable measure.

Bayley Fritsch still sits in second for marks inside 50, equal with Tom Hawkins.  Strangely, I think it has been a different player in first every week.

But the stat of 2021 for the Demons is still tackles inside 50, with an incredible SIX players ranked inside the top 25, plus Fritta correcting one of his deficiencies and coming in at 38th.

Tom McDonald in 4th, Kysaiah Pickett in equal 5th, Charlie Spargo in equal 15th, Jack Viney in equal 21st, James Jordan and Alex Neal-Bullen both in equal 24th.

This is incredibly surprising. I've never felt it's a particularly strong area of Tom's game the tackles, but that's brilliant. He'll keep his spot if he creates a contest in the area and tackles on the ground to prevent easy exits.

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47 minutes ago, A F said:

This is incredibly surprising. I've never felt it's a particularly strong area of Tom's game the tackles, but that's brilliant. He'll keep his spot if he creates a contest in the area and tackles on the ground to prevent easy exits.

Very much so.  In terms of his ranking within the team since i started keeping tackles inside 50 records...

2018 - 10th

2019 - 11th

2020 - equal 2nd alongside Mitch Brown and just behind Kozzie in 1st

2021 - 1st ahead of Kozzie, then Spargs

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Rnd 5, 2021 MCG - Hawks vs Demons

Gawny hits the big time for the second time this season.  His other top ranking was against the Giants in Rnd 3.

Clarry's contract discussions seemingly having no impact on his ability to contribute.  Decision making looked a tad off today at times and still plenty of room for improvement, especially with his connection work coming inside 50, where i thought he was a little better last week against the Cats.  There was a moment today where he marked in the member's pocket on a super tight angle, we had an open CHF area with Melk & ANB running free from the center square open for quite a while but unfortunately Clarry never even appeared to be looking out for them.  Missed the goal by quite a lot.  Opportunity lost.  Some future work on this forward 50 connection aspect and set shots at goal wouldn't hurt going forward.  Little things that, if improved on, just might take him to super star status.

Welcome back Hibb!  I thought he was very influential today pressuring his opponents, leaving his own to support, two way running and general desperation.  Super impressive return.

Salem again in the top five and having a solid start to the season.

And yes you aren't seeing things, the super mossie Kozzie in the top 5.  And not for the first time.  He came 5th in Rnd 17 last season vs the Giants with a score of 2.925  However, this was his highest statistical score by far, easily beating his outstanding Rnd 3 score against the Giants of 3.650

Our best players also batted deep today!  Without trawling through records (going back to 2017), i can't recall too many times (if any), where we've had 13 players hitting a score of 3 or higher in any match.  That's a good solid contribution (or better) from so many today and quite possibly a record i would think.  

The team score of 69.03 is right on our 2018 average team score of 69.53 !!

Player Score Rank
Max Gawn # 5.375 1
Clayton Oliver 4.975 2
M Hibberd 4.500 3
Christian Salem 4.325 4
Kysaiah Pickett 4.275 5
James Jordan 3.900 6
Jake Lever 3.700 7
Tom McDonald # 3.600 8
Jake Melksham 3.550 9
Luke Jackson # 3.350 10
Jayden Hunt 3.075 11
Ed Langdon 3.050 12
C Petracca 3.000 13
Trent Rivers 2.975 14
A Brayshaw 2.925 15
Alex N-Bullen 2.550 16
Mitchell Brown 2.475 17
Harrison Petty 1.900 18
Jack Viney 1.900 19
A Tomlinson 1.875 20
Charlie Spargo 1.250 21
Nathan Jones 0.500 22
Team Score 69.03  
Top 6 27.35  
Bottom 6 9.90  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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On 4/16/2021 at 11:53 AM, Skuit said:

Some randoms gleaned from the Pure Footy podcast:

Melbourne are only conceding scores from 30.6% of i-50s - the stingiest ever for a team after round 4. 

Melbourne should be scoring a predictive 101.8 points p/g (currently 89.5). 

This part was unclear if related to the above or not: we're currently generating the second-hardest shots profile. 

Adam Tomlinson has lost 1 out of 19 one-on-one contests since shifting to defence in round 10 last year. 

21 players have played every game so far this year (obviously set to dip this week). 

Which podcast is this? 

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2 hours ago, bandicoot said:

Which podcast is this? 

'Twas David King and some dude from Champion Data. Not sure where I stumbled upon it. 

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 5 , 2021 vs 2019

Our average team score this season is now tracking above 2018!  Ok so it's only slightly above at a tad over 1%, but it's still higher.  Does this mean we are PF bound?  18% above 2019's disaster.

Quite a return game from Hibb in this round when you see it in context vs the season averages.  That will probably drop off in coming weeks but one can only hope he holds that level.

Pitty May won't be back for the coming Anzac eve / Jones' 300th against the Tiges.  Reckon he might be the difference if it's a close one.

Player 2021 Score 2021 Rank 2019 Score % Change vs 2019 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  5.265 1 4.643 13.40 1 0
M Hibberd* 4.500 2 2.124 111.86 20 18
C Salem 4.130 3 3.658 12.90 3 0
Max Gawn # 4.065 4 3.256 24.85 4 0
Steven May  4.000 5 2.446 63.53 14 9
Jake Lever  3.915 6 2.313 69.26 17 11
C Petracca  3.830 7 2.616 46.41 10 3
Ed Langdon  3.680 8        
Kysaiah Pickett 3.255 9        
Jack Viney 3.213 10 3.068 4.73 5 -5
Jayden Hunt 3.055 11 1.958 56.03 22 11
A Brayshaw  3.035 12 2.894 4.87 6 -6
J Melksham 2.625 13 1.931 35.94 23 10
James Jordan 2.545 14        
Charlie Spargo 2.525 15 1.375 83.64 35 20
Bayley Fritsch  2.500 16 2.641 -5.34 9 -7
T McDonald # 2.475 17 2.150 15.12 19 2
M Brown* 2.475 17        
A Tomlinson 2.390 19        
Alex N-Bullen  2.365 20 1.984 19.20 21 1
Trent Rivers 2.310 21        
Luke Jackson # 2.195 22        
J Harmes* 2.150 23 3.850 -44.16 2 -21
Nathan Jones 2.115 24 2.711 -21.98 7 -17
Tom Sparrow 2.087 25 1.075 94.14 37 12
H Petty* 1.900 26 1.905 -0.26 24 -2
Neville Jetta  1.888 27 2.264 -16.61 18 -9
Average Team Score -Top 22 70.35   59.62 17.99    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Latest on where the Demons are tracking from Fox Footy.  Some of this has already been covered by astute contributors on this forum but nonetheless an interesting read...

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/melbourne-demons/afl-2021-melbourne-demons-improvement-stats-why-theyre-50-anzac-eve-game-vs-richmond-preview-afl-360/news-story/38380c0d733ad217d25cfb99a118987a

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Rnd 6, 2021 MCG - Demons vs Tigers

Too many great contributions to mention today.  Let's just take a look at the top 3 who are all off the charts.

Salem:  His highest weighted score since keeping these stats, beating his previous best against the Suns in Rnd 20, 2018 where he topped that round with a massive 6.325.

31 Effective disposals @ 79.5% efficiency!   2 one percenters, 2 clearances, 8 rebounds, 6 inside 50s, 3 tackles, 4 score involvements, 9 intercepts and a goal.  5 turnovers.

Clarry:  24 effectives @ 66.70%, 2 one percenters, 4 clearances, 4 rebound 50s, 4 inside 50s, 6 tackles, 10 score involvements, 7 intercepts and only 3 turnovers.

Tracc:  20 effectives @ 52.5%, 10 clearances, 3 rebounds, 7 inside 50s, 7 tackles, 11 score involvements and a goal.  Turnovers a tad high at 7.

Taking no notice of Hibb in 22nd place here.   Did the job asked on Dusty and would have no doubt sacrificed much of his usual role to achieve this which has obviously impacted his usual output.

Our highest team score so far this season, outstripping 2018's season average and smashing 2019's.  Also our highest score from the top 6 ranked players this season.

Player Score Rank
C Salem  6.600 1
Clayton Oliver  6.300 2
C Petracca  5.125 3
Ed Langdon  4.625 4
Jack Viney  4.400 5
Luke Jackson # 4.400 5
Max Gawn # 4.025 7
Jake Lever  3.975 8
Steven May  3.725 9
James Jordan  3.250 10
A Tomlinson  2.900 11
A Brayshaw  2.875 12
Tom McDonald  2.675 13
Alex N-Bullen  2.650 14
Jayden Hunt  2.375 15
Bayley Fritsch  2.250 16
Nathan Jones  2.225 17
Trent Rivers  2.125 18
Kysaiah Pickett  2.050 19
Jake Melksham  1.350 20
Charlie Spargo  1.300 21
M Hibberd  0.725 22
Team Score 71.93  
Top 6 31.45  
Bottom 6 9.78  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 6 , 2021 vs 2019

Player 2021 Score 2021 Rank 2019 Score % Change vs 2019 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  5.438 1 4.643 17.12 1 0
C Salem 4.542 2 3.658 24.17 3 1
Max Gawn # 4.058 3 3.256 24.63 4 1
C Petracca  4.046 4 2.616 54.66 10 6
Steven May  3.935 5 2.446 60.87 14 9
Jake Lever  3.925 6 2.313 69.69 17 11
Ed Langdon  3.838 7        
Jack Viney 3.450 8 3.068 12.45 5 -3
Kysaiah Pickett 3.054 9        
A Brayshaw  3.008 10 2.894 3.94 6 -4
Jayden Hunt 2.942 11 1.958 50.26 22 11
James Jordan 2.663 12        
M Hibberd 2.613 13 2.124 23.02 20 7
Luke Jackson # 2.563 14        
T McDonald # 2.508 15 2.150 16.65 19 4
M Brown* 2.475 16        
A Tomlinson 2.475 16        
Bayley Fritsch  2.450 18 2.641 -7.23 9 -9
Alex N-Bullen  2.413 19 1.984 21.62 21 2
Charlie Spargo 2.321 20 1.375 68.80 35 15
Trent Rivers 2.279 21        
J Melksham 2.200 22 1.931 13.93 23 1
James Harmes* 2.150 23 3.850 -44.16 2 -21
Nathan Jones 2.133 24 2.711 -21.32 7 -17
Tom Sparrow 2.087 25 1.075 94.14 37 12
H Petty* 1.900 26 1.905 -0.26 24 -2
Neville Jetta  1.888 27 2.264 -16.61 18 -9
Average Team Score - Top 22 69.20   59.62 16.06    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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21 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Rnd 6, 2021 MCG - Demons vs Tigers

Too many great contributions to mention today.  Let's just take a look at the top 3 who are all off the charts.

Salem:  His highest weighted score since keeping these stats, beating his previous best against the Suns in Rnd 20, 2018 where he topped that round with a massive 6.325.

31 Effective disposals @ 79.5% efficiency!   2 one percenters, 2 clearances, 8 rebounds, 6 inside 50s, 3 tackles, 4 score involvements, 9 intercepts and a goal.  5 turnovers.

Clarry:  24 effectives @ 66.70%, 2 one percenters, 4 clearances, 4 rebound 50s, 4 inside 50s, 6 tackles, 10 score involvements, 7 intercepts and only 3 turnovers.

Tracc:  20 effectives @ 52.5%, 10 clearances, 3 rebounds, 7 inside 50s, 7 tackles, 11 score involvements and a goal.  Turnovers a tad high at 7.

Taking no notice of Hibb in 22nd place here.   Did the job asked on Dusty and would have no doubt sacrificed much of his usual role to achieve this which has obviously impacted his usual output.

Our highest team score so far this season, outstripping 2018's season average and smashing 2019's.  Also our highest score from the top 6 ranked players this season.

Player Score Rank
C Salem  6.600 1
Clayton Oliver  6.300 2
C Petracca  5.125 3
Ed Langdon  4.625 4
Jack Viney  4.400 5
Luke Jackson # 4.400 5
Max Gawn # 4.025 7
Jake Lever  3.975 8
Steven May  3.725 9
James Jordan  3.250 10
A Tomlinson  2.900 11
A Brayshaw  2.875 12
Tom McDonald  2.675 13
Alex N-Bullen  2.650 14
Jayden Hunt  2.375 15
Bayley Fritsch  2.250 16
Nathan Jones  2.225 17
Trent Rivers  2.125 18
Kysaiah Pickett  2.050 19
Jake Melksham  1.350 20
Charlie Spargo  1.300 21
M Hibberd  0.725 22
Team Score 71.93  
Top 6 31.45  
Bottom 6 9.78  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

A lovely set of numbers.  You have nicely identified that Hibbard’s statistical score had little correlation to how we judge his performance.  Jackson in the top 6!  A couple of Christians at the top, separated by a Clayton.  Salem could have easily won the Checker Medal. 

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Rnd 7, 2021 Blundstone Arena - Kangaroos vs Demons

Strange game indeed and a round to forget.  Nonetheless a win is a win and it does give us a tad more breathing room in a points sense.

One of those rounds where the stats, in many cases, have little correlation with who did what and who had the most impact on the day.  Mind you it wouldn't be the first time or the last but this one is up there as being a real doozy.

Is it just me? Possibly i wasn't watching closely enough but not sure i would have had May in my top three or even five.  No doubt the coverage from side on doesn't show a fair wack of what goes on behind /off the ball either.  However, i suspect many of the possessions that went towards his top of the table outcome (statistically) were cheap ones lateral and/or on the switch.  Wouldn't be the only player nor the first time.  Plenty of defenders rack them up in this way as well.  Even the kick ins count i believe.

Now i usually focus on the positives here, but the last time a player received a negative weighted score for a whole match, at least without being injured early and not taking any further part (a la Tomlinson), was Joel Smith's Rnd 19, 2018 match vs the Crows with a -0.300

Statistically ANB's  - 0.100 weighted score ranks as possibly the 2nd worst in the last four years.  Let's look at some of the numbers.  5 effective disposals running at 50% DE, one 1%er, two inside 50s, 4 score involvements, 181 meters gained, 2 intercepts.  Finally....Zero tackles and 8 turnovers!  Hibb the only other player not to lay a tackle in this match!  Not counting Thommo for obvious reasons.

On the flip side a big positive.  Young Jordan.  Cop some of these for outstanding as a rookie... 18 effective disposals running at 90% efficiency.  4 Clearances, 4 inside 50s, 7 tackles (one inside 50), 7 Score involvements, 260 Meters Gained, 1 Goal and only 1 turnover!  Nice work young fella.

Top three for score involvements... Fritsch 10, Kozzie 9 & Tracc with 8.

Top three for Meters Gained... May 552, Tracc 539 & Clarry 438.

Top three for Intercepts... Lever 9, Salem 8 and May with 7.

Top three for Tackles inside 50... Brown 2, Equal 2nd were Salem, Hunt, Dogga, JJ & Kozzie with one a piece

Top three for Turnovers...  ANB 8, Melk 6 and equal third Clarry & Tracc with 5 each.

Player Score Rank
Steven May  5.300 1
James Jordan  4.650 2
Clayton Oliver  4.525 3
Ed Langdon  4.350 4
C Salem  4.175 5
C Petracca  4.050 6
Jake Lever  3.800 7
Luke Jackson # 3.625 8
A Brayshaw  3.500 9
Trent Rivers  3.450 10
Bayley Fritsch  3.425 11
T McDonald # 3.350 12
K Pickett  3.300 13
M Hibberd  3.225 14
Nathan Jones  2.700 15
Oskar Baker  2.325 16
Max Gawn # 2.325 17
Jayden Hunt  2.075 18
Charlie Spargo  2.050 19
J Melksham  1.800 20
Ben Brown  0.750 21
A Tomlinson  0.000 22
Alex N-Bullen  -0.100 23
Team Score 68.75  
Top 6 27.05  
Bottom 6 9.00  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited by Rusty Nails
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6 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Rnd 7, 2021 Blundstone Arena - Kangaroos vs Demons

Strange game indeed and a round to forget.  Nonetheless a win is a win and it does give us a tad more breathing room in a points sense.

One of those rounds where the stats, in many cases, have little correlation with who did what and who had the most impact on the day.  Mind you it wouldn't be the first time or the last but this one is up there as being a real doozy.

Is it just me? Possibly i wasn't watching closely enough but not sure i would have had May in my top three or even five.  No doubt the coverage from side on doesn't show a fair wack of what goes on behind /off the ball either.  However, i suspect many of the possessions that went towards his top of the table outcome (statistically) were cheap ones lateral and/or on the switch.  Wouldn't be the only player nor the first time.  Plenty of defenders rack them up in this way as well.  Even the kick ins count i believe.

Now i usually focus on the positives here, but the last time a player received a negative weighted score for a whole match, at least without being injured early and not taking any further part (a la Tomlinson), was Joel Smith's Rnd 19, 2018 match vs the Crows with a -0.300

Statistically ANB's  - 0.100 weighted score ranks as possibly the 2nd worst in the last four years.  Let's look at some of the numbers.  5 effective disposals running at 50% DE, one 1%er, two inside 50s, 4 score involvements, 181 meters gained, 2 intercepts.  Finally....Zero tackles and 8 turnovers!  Hibb the only other player not to lay a tackle in this match!  Not counting Thommo for obvious reasons.

On the flip side a big positive.  Young Jordan.  Cop some of these for outstanding as a rookie... 18 effective disposals running at 90% efficiency.  4 Clearances, 4 inside 50s, 7 tackles (one inside 50), 7 Score involvements, 260 Meters Gained, 1 Goal and only 1 turnover!  Nice work young fella.

Top three for score involvements... Fritsch 10, Kozzie 9 & Tracc with 8.

Top three for Meters Gained... May 552, Tracc 539 & Clarry 438.

Top three for Intercepts... Lever 9, Salem 8 and May with 7.

Top three for Tackles inside 50... Brown 2, Equal 2nd were Salem, Hunt, Dogga, JJ & Kozzie with one a piece

Top three for Turnovers...  ANB 8, Melk 6 and equal third Clarry & Tracc with 5 each.

Player Score Rank
Steven May  5.300 1
James Jordan  4.650 2
Clayton Oliver  4.525 3
Ed Langdon  4.350 4
C Salem  4.175 5
C Petracca  4.050 6
Jake Lever  3.800 7
Luke Jackson # 3.625 8
A Brayshaw  3.500 9
Trent Rivers  3.450 10
Bayley Fritsch  3.425 11
T McDonald # 3.350 12
K Pickett  3.300 13
M Hibberd  3.225 14
Nathan Jones  2.700 15
Oskar Baker  2.325 16
Max Gawn # 2.325 17
Jayden Hunt  2.075 18
Charlie Spargo  2.050 19
J Melksham  1.800 20
Ben Brown  0.750 21
A Tomlinson  0.000 22
Alex N-Bullen  -0.100 23
Team Score 68.75  
Top 6 27.05  
Bottom 6 9.00  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Thanks Rusty I  always enjoy and am impressed with your stats and analysis

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35 minutes ago, Kent said:

Thanks Rusty I  always enjoy and am impressed with your stats and analysis

Thanks Kent.  Real pitty about Thomo but hopefully Tmac can play a similar role.  Time for the Weid to make his 2021 debut you think?

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Just now, Rusty Nails said:

Thanks Kent.  Real pitty about Thomo but hopefully Tmac can play a similar role.  Time for the Weid to make his 2021 debut you think?

Maybe Weid can take his chance Maybe it is his time

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Hopefully a blip on the radar.  Seemed 1/2 the squad were 5% off yesterday, saved by the young guns.  Good to see Brown applying pressure in the 50 and not just leading for marks.

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8 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Hopefully a blip on the radar.  Seemed 1/2 the squad were 5% off yesterday, saved by the young guns.  Good to see Brown applying pressure in the 50 and not just leading for marks.

Form is a fickle thing Buck.  I'm sure the boys will knuckle down this week.  They can't all have a half of footy, some a whole game, as bad as that again this week i hope.  Viney out is a big blow let's hope its not the old 426 issue.  Fingers crossed.

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 7 , 2021 vs 2019

Not the greatest debut in the Red & Blue from BB but should be given some latitude to find match fitness & form and for the rest of the boys to find him as well.

Spargo & Chunk just hanging in there at 21st & 22nd although Chunk did move up two places from 24th at the end of the previous round so not too shabby.

Oskar sneaks in to the 22 but one week against the bottom rung team obviously not a solid indicator. 

Max and ANB the biggest drops from last week after pretty ordinary performances, dropping 4 and 7 places respectively.  Melk drops out of the top 22 and not for the first time.

Kozzie & LJ hanging on to 9th & 14th.

The Team's (top 22 players) average score is a massive 17.5% above the awful 2019 and just above 2018's average by 0.75%

Player 2021 Score 2021 Rank 2019 Score % Change vs 2019 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  5.307 1 4.643 14.30 1 0
C Salem 4.489 2 3.658 22.72 3 1
Steven May  4.195 3 2.446 71.50 14 11
C Petracca  4.046 4 2.616 54.66 10 6
Ed Langdon  3.911 5        
Jake Lever  3.907 6 2.313 68.91 17 11
Max Gawn # 3.811 7 3.256 17.05 4 -3
Jack Viney 3.450 8 3.068 12.45 5 -3
Kysaiah Pickett 3.089 9        
A Brayshaw  3.079 10 2.894 6.39 6 -4
James Jordan 2.946 11        
Jayden Hunt 2.818 12 1.958 43.92 22 10
M Hibberd 2.817 13 2.124 32.63 20 7
Luke Jackson # 2.714 14        
T McDonald # 2.629 15 2.150 22.28 19 4
Bayley Fritsch  2.613 16 2.641 -1.06 9 -7
M Brown* 2.475 17        
A Tomlinson 2.475 17        
Trent Rivers 2.446 19        
Oskar Baker* 2.325 20 1.714 35.65 29 9
Charlie Spargo 2.282 21 1.375 65.96 35 14
Nathan Jones 2.214 22 2.711 -18.33 7 -15
James Harmes* 2.150 23 3.850 -44.16 2 -21
J Melksham 2.100 24 1.931 8.75 23 -1
Tom Sparrow 2.087 25 1.075 94.14 37 12
Alex N-Bullen  2.054 26 1.984 3.53 21 -5
H Petty* 1.900 27 1.905 -0.26 24 -3
Neville Jetta  1.888 28 2.264 -16.61 18 -10
Ben Brown* 0.750 29        
Average Team Score - Top 22 70.04   59.62 17.47    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

 

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Rnd 8, 2021 MCG - Demons vs Swans

Harmes, Clarry, Salem, May, Tmac & ANB the stand outs for me this evening.  A few of the usual contributors seemed to be out of it for much of the night but this does happen against quality opposition and the Swans need to be given plenty of credit.  Probably the best opponent i have witnessed live so far in terms of bringing the heat for almost four quarters and pushing us all the way.

Top three for Clearances... Clarry 10, daylight the rest with Harmes & Tracc 5 each

Top three for Score Involvements... Tmac with 7, Equal second Harmes & Melk 5 each

Top three for Meters Gained... Salem 605, Clarry 534 & Ed 420

Top three for One Percenters... Lever & May 8 each, Big Max 6

Top three for Intercepts... Salem 10, equal second Lever, Harmes & Gus with 7 each

Top three for Tackles inside 50... Kozzie 5, equal second Harmes, JJ & ANB 2 each

Top three for Turnovers... Tracc 11 (Big number!), Clarry 8, Salem 7

Top three most Time on Ground... Lever & May 100%, Ed 98%

Bottom three Least time on Ground... Rivers & Spargo 69%, LJ 70%

Player Score Rank
C Oliver  4.975 1
James Harmes 4.950 2
C Salem  4.175 3
Ed Langdon  3.425 4
Alex N-Bullen  3.350 5
Steven May  3.350 5
T McDonald # 2.875 7
Max Gawn # 2.600 8
C Petracca  2.525 9
Ben Brown # 2.500 10
M Hibberd  2.500 10
J Melksham  2.450 12
James Jordan  2.375 13
H Petty  2.175 14
Charlie Spargo  1.900 15
Trent Rivers  1.775 16
A Brayshaw  1.775 16
Jayden Hunt  1.750 18
K Pickett  1.425 19
Jake Lever  1.325 20
L Jackson # 1.000 21
Bayley Fritsch  0.700 22
Team Score 55.88  
Top 6 24.23  
Bottom 6 7.98  
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55 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

We've finally lost a last quarter, in fact we lost 3 quarters last night (by a combined 4 points). I wonder when was the last time we lost 3 quarters in a game and still won??

Im surprised we did not (from what i witnessed at the ground and i might have missed it) start with Kozzie in the middle at the beginning of the match or seemingly at any stage last night.

I think the Swans had us for speed in those center bounces and worried us into playing on the shoulder much of the time instead of being first in more often.

The need for speed and the hunt for ball was lacking imv R&B .  Kozzie also brings an element of closing speed that may have resulted in a few tighter tussles and turnovers in our favour through the middle had he been played there in short bursts.

The above could also be completely wrong 😄  Would need to watch the replay to be more certain.

Regardless it's definitely a red flag that needs addressing.  The return of Viney will probably help solve it somewhat.  I just wonder why we suddenly changed our tactics (no Kozzie and apparently playing on the shoulder vs see ball get ball more often) from the winning one previously?  Match ups no doubt come into it but would be interesting to hear the coaches take on this.

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 8 , 2021 vs 2019

Note:  Erratum above 👆...Kozzie DID start in the middle.  At least for the first bounce anyway.  Haven't checked replay further than that!  My comments regarding ideally playing him there in bursts against the Swans are most likely null and void!

Player 2021 Score 2021 Rank 2019 Score % Change vs 2019 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  5.266 1 4.643 13.42 1 0
C Salem 4.450 2 3.658 21.65 3 1
Steven May  4.060 3 2.446 65.99 14 11
C Petracca  3.856 4 2.616 47.40 10 6
Ed Langdon  3.850 5        
Max Gawn # 3.659 6 3.256 12.38 4 -2
Jake Lever  3.584 7 2.313 54.95 17 10
James Harmes 3.550 8 3.850 -7.79 2 -6
Jack Viney 3.450 9 3.068 12.45 5 -4
A Brayshaw  2.916 10 2.894 0.76 6 -4
Kysaiah Pickett 2.881 11        
James Jordan 2.875 12        
M Hibberd 2.738 13 2.124 28.91 20 7
Jayden Hunt 2.684 14 1.958 37.08 22 8
T McDonald # 2.659 15 2.150 23.67 19 4
Luke Jackson # 2.500 16        
M Brown* 2.475 17        
A Tomlinson 2.475 17        
Trent Rivers 2.363 19        
Bayley Fritsch  2.339 20 2.641 -11.44 9 -11
Oskar Baker* 2.325 21 1.714 35.65 29 8
Charlie Spargo 2.234 22 1.375 62.47 35 13
Alex N-Bullen  2.216 23 1.984 11.69 21 -2
Nathan Jones 2.214 24 2.711 -18.33 7 -17
J Melksham 2.170 25 1.931 12.38 23 -2
Tom Sparrow 2.087 26 1.075 94.14 37 11
H Petty 2.038 27 1.905 6.98 24 -3
Neville Jetta  1.888 28 2.264 -16.61 18 -10
Ben Brown # 1.625 29        
Average Team Score - Top 22 69.19   59.62 16.04    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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