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Both sides shanked kicks at Jolimont end all day.  Have we had a prevailing Easterly?

could’ve been wind

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Watching this guy in the last quarter, I honestly believe that he is our next bona fide superstar. Quiet for three quarters, then someone or something flicked the switch. His marking became clean and

The only reason to play Jackson at the moment is to increase his trade value. Jackson is superfluous to need and it was a mistake to draft him. He will never be a first ruck and if he can't make this

I'll go along with the "Mental" part of your post.

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7 minutes ago, Dee man said:

That piece of play from him was exhilarating! Pity he gave away a free kick, a 50 and missed the goal. But it offered a glimpse of his game changer potential, even if it'll ultimately go down as a clanger.

LOL.  Great example of effort not being rewarded right there.  Also worth noting that he missed the shot, but it was spectacular. 

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His last quarter was exciting and he presented well all game. The marks he clunked will hopefully help get his confidence up.

I suspect part of his fourth quarter cameo was Fremantle tiring and we being fitter than them. He just looked to be out-running every Docker around him, as did many of our guys.

Having said that, he's still raw, wasn't involved enough in the first three quarters, and his goal-kicking was shocking. But if he can build on that performance, his athleticism can make him something really special.

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1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

I suspect part of his fourth quarter cameo was Fremantle tiring and we being fitter than them. He just looked to be out-running every Docker around him, as did many of our guys.

To temper that, I think Jackson spent a big part of the second quarter on the bench/in the rooms getting a shoulder complaint assessed and the Dockers had multiple injuries which hampered their ability to rotate players in the last quarter in particular.  But agree that his mobility/agility for a big man is quite awsome.  He does really seam to move with that basketball style 360 degree spatial awareness like Trac as well.

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11 hours ago, In Harmes Way said:

That pack mark was an absolute ripper

Hopefully a few more of those and all the naysayers who reckon he was too expensive at pick 3 will shut up 

Fact is you don't pay any more for a No 3 vs a 53 ( Oscar and Tommy Mac) but as we know we have burned a few first rounders in our recent time which has been a real waste along with our previous abject Fruitless development programs.

Hi to Morton Toumpas Grimesy both the Scully's ( father and son)  plus Trenners ( hurts me to put him in this group) .

Our esteemed D/Landers still counting the cost of both 1 and 2  in the draft and the previously maligned Tigers hitting pay dirt with Dusty from the Bendigo goldfields still haunting Better sides  than us in September ( or even October).

Jacko at 3 and Kossie at 8 are stocks on the rise out of yesterday and no one will stop them when they fully get their act together!. ( NO matter  What you say Dr D no goals yesterday from Kossie ) but plenty of pressure and brilliant team acts Made him a party act along with Jacko at the end well worth watching.

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23 minutes ago, 58er said:

 

Jacko at 3 and Kossie at 8 are stocks on the rise out of yesterday and no one will stop them when they fully get their act together!. ( NO matter  What you say Dr D no goals yesterday from Kossie ) but plenty of pressure and brilliant team acts Made him a party act along with Jacko at the end well worth watching.

Incorrect. One from his own boot. And great run, pressure and presence.

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1 round down and my statement that he isn't a forward stays true. 

Did some nice things late in the game but was non existent for 3 quarters. Kicking was horrific. He is a ruckman and will be a good ruckman. but he is far behind McDonald as a forward. 

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Gee what a draft that was for us.

Jackson with real superstar potential 

Kozzie just electrifying 

Rivers tough as nails solid and super reliable 

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1 hour ago, 58er said:

Fact is you don't pay any more for a No 3 vs a 53 ( Oscar and Tommy Mac) but as we know we have burned a few first rounders in our recent time which has been a real waste along with our previous abject Fruitless development programs.

Hi to Morton Toumpas Grimesy both the Scully's ( father and son)  plus Trenners ( hurts me to put him in this group) .

Our esteemed D/Landers still counting the cost of both 1 and 2  in the draft and the previously maligned Tigers hitting pay dirt with Dusty from the Bendigo goldfields still haunting Better sides  than us in September ( or even October).

Jacko at 3 and Kossie at 8 are stocks on the rise out of yesterday and no one will stop them when they fully get their act together!. ( NO matter  What you say Dr D no goals yesterday from Kossie ) but plenty of pressure and brilliant team acts Made him a party act along with Jacko at the end well worth watching.

I'm sorry but this is exactly why i don't like pickett. Yeah he had some nice cameos but he fumbled a hell of a lot and dropped some easy marks. skills were off. We need him for his pace no doubt but i haven't seen any natural forward craft from him and until then i'd prefer him up the ground which to goodwins credit started him in the centre square. 

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6 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Gee what a draft that was for us.

Jackson with real superstar potential 

Kozzie just electrifying 

Rivers tough as nails solid and super reliable 

seems like you only watched about 5 mins of th game. Rivers played okay despite some costly errors, jackson was largely unsighted and pickett at least got 12 touches instead of his usual 6-8 and he kicked a goal but let's pump the brakes a bit. We've had far too many failed draft choices to earn the right to prematurely call anyone a future good player.

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2 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

The naysayers are already gone. 

oh did jackson play well did he? played a pretty average game by most unbiased supporters opinion

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4 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

seems like you only watched about 5 mins of th game. Rivers played okay despite some costly errors, jackson was largely unsighted and pickett at least got 12 touches instead of his usual 6-8 and he kicked a goal but let's pump the brakes a bit. We've had far too many failed draft choices to earn the right to prematurely call anyone a future good player.

I’m not just basing my judgement on one game and if you can’t see the talent that these kids have you have absolutely no idea mate.

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8 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

To temper that, I think Jackson spent a big part of the second quarter on the bench/in the rooms getting a shoulder complaint assessed and the Dockers had multiple injuries which hampered their ability to rotate players in the last quarter in particular.  But agree that his mobility/agility for a big man is quite awsome.  He does really seam to move with that basketball style 360 degree spatial awareness like Trac as well.

What injuries?

The sub replaced Pearce so no loss of rotations there. 

Hamling went down with maybe 5 minutes to go. 

Both sides finished the game with 74 rotations. 

I don’t think what you’ve said here is true at all.

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6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

oh did jackson play well did he? played a pretty average game by most unbiased supporters opinion

So do you review a 2nd year key talls draft standing on output or attributes? He has shown the attributes that validate why he was and should have been taken as a top 3 pick. The last quarter is an example of that. Other than Serong who I reckon has the lowest ceiling for the quality player he already shows he is who would you out of the below be more sure will be an elite player in 3-5 years time? Note that we took Pickett next who I will back over McHenry and Rivers who I would suggest has shown more than Ash or Young at this time. 

Ash, Stephens, McCasey, Young, McHenry, Flanders. 

His game is coming together but he shows things in his agility, aggression and contested marking as a second year that few can do. I would not even be surprised as a second year tall that he does not play all year but he is an outstanding package that will only get better. 

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8 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

To temper that, I think Jackson spent a big part of the second quarter on the bench/in the rooms getting a shoulder complaint assessed and the Dockers had multiple injuries which hampered their ability to rotate players in the last quarter in particular.  But agree that his mobility/agility for a big man is quite awsome.  He does really seam to move with that basketball style 360 degree spatial awareness like Trac as well.

I guess Shocking will be proposing 4 injury subs as well as the rotations. 
Or maybe, just so we can look more like the NFL, complete team changes every 5 minutes depending if we are on ohhfence or deeeefence. 

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1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

oh did jackson play well did he? played a pretty average game by most unbiased supporters opinion

 

198cm 19 year old in his 7th AFL game has quiet first three quarters of season opener

 

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2 hours ago, 58er said:

Fact is you don't pay any more for a No 3 vs a 53 ( Oscar and Tommy Mac) but as we know we have burned a few first rounders in our recent time which has been a real waste along with our previous abject Fruitless development programs.

Hi to Morton Toumpas Grimesy both the Scully's ( father and son)  plus Trenners ( hurts me to put him in this group) .

Our esteemed D/Landers still counting the cost of both 1 and 2  in the draft and the previously maligned Tigers hitting pay dirt with Dusty from the Bendigo goldfields still haunting Better sides  than us in September ( or even October).

Jacko at 3 and Kossie at 8 are stocks on the rise out of yesterday and no one will stop them when they fully get their act together!. ( NO matter  What you say Dr D no goals yesterday from Kossie ) but plenty of pressure and brilliant team acts Made him a party act along with Jacko at the end well worth watching.

I don't think we should be counting chickens just yet. Don't get me wrong I'm super excited by the potential ofbthese young guys, but they have a long way to go to be more than potential. Saying "we got this right unlike past early picks" is premature (except maybe Toumpas!).

In Cale Morton's first 2 seasons he played in 40 games (6 wins), for 825 disposals (20.6 per game). Injuries (broken finger I think) and poor coaching stumped his development. And he gets remembered harshly because of the Lade pantomime.

Trengove looked great from the outset.

 

 

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The only reason to play Jackson at the moment is to increase his trade value. Jackson is superfluous to need and it was a mistake to draft him. He will never be a first ruck and if he can't make this team as a forward he will be playing at Casey most of the year. We have 2 guys running around Casey that would do Jackson's job better. Majac has been doing well and Andrew Courtney is a better ruck and a better forward. The best hope is that some team sees value in Jackson and take him off our hands. 

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