CHANGES: Rd 02 vs St. Kilda

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Bobby Hill? I’ve either missed the joke or the game against GWS?

[Winners at last 4,672]

15 hours ago, rjay said:

Lack of space might not suit him...

I hope you're right and I'm wrong though.

(Hunt)

He has the pace to go with the St Kilda little/fast guys.

But doubts about his tank, and his very poor tackling technique are a worry.

 

[Kent 2,574]

15 minutes ago, bingers said:

(Hunt)

He has the pace to go with the St Kilda little/fast guys.

But doubts about his tank, and his very poor tackling technique are a worry.

 

 

[WA Demon Boy 966]

I would much rather play Hunt on a wing than back, not sure why the coaching staff is so adamant on playing him down there. 

He has toe, he can kick a goal and now that he's played time down back he can hopefully be clued on to defensive positioning and running down/pressuring the ball carrier.

I do worry about his kicking at times, but Langdon also isn't the best kick either. 



 

[WA Demon Boy 966]

Also why did we not pick up Butler? lol

I have a bad feeling he's going to eat us alive 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

2 minutes ago, MF-C said:

Also why did we not pick up Butler? lol

I have a bad feeling he's going to eat us alive 

 

Hopefully not like last year when he destroyed us with 11 possessions and 0 goals in a Melbourne win

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

2 minutes ago, MF-C said:

Also why did we not pick up Butler? lol

I have a bad feeling he's going to eat us alive 

Cause Melbourne. 

[In Harmes Way 7,477]

Harmes out for 6 weeks with a broken wrist. 

Looks like Viney for Harmes in reading this article. I like the noises around senior players having to earn their spot...

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/melbournes-james-harmes-will-miss-six-weeks-after-breaking-his-wrist-but-jack-viney-should-return/news-story/e2f44120ae1dc239d05ef5b4315e55ff

[HBDee 343]

Out: 10 of Oliver's unnecessary handballs.

In: 10 of Oliver's quality kicks.

Out: Harmes trying to break tackles and getting caught.

In: Viney trying to break tackles and getting caught.

 

[spirit of norm smith 12,828]

 Viney for Harmes.  

[Bang Bang Bang 5,429]

2 hours ago, MF-C said:

Also why did we not pick up Butler? lol

I have a bad feeling he's going to eat us alive 

Because he was a fringe player at Richmond, and like 17 other clubs we didn't have that amazing crystal ball you seem to have at your disposal. 

[The Jackson FIX 2,286]

Trying my best to read between the lines in Goody’s presser I see Viney and Chandler in. Harmes out and my best guess is Chunk out with him.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

4 minutes ago, The Jackson 6 said:

Trying my best to read between the lines in Goody’s presser I see Viney and Chandler in. Harmes out and my best guess is Chunk out with him.

Chandler for Jones would be great

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 2,918]

8 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Chandler for Jones would be great

I’m surprised by the lack of love for Jones. There was a period in the last quarter, where it looked as though Freo were going to challenge us and we threw Jones into the middle. He won the ball and rather than stuffing around with it , like Oliver, he drove it deep inside 50 to advantage. A couple minutes later he was instrumental in another goal ...  he still has a bit to offer

 

 

[WERRIDEE 5,198]

Chandler should not play. He has no form to go in with. He should be playing in the VFL. Viney for Harmes is the only change. Picking the sub will be hard maybe Bowey or Baker.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

6 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Chandler should not play. He has no form to go in with. He should be playing in the VFL. Viney for Harmes is the only change. Picking the sub will be hard maybe Bowey or Baker.

We should only pick veterans as the sub , cant afford to have kids wasting away and not playing at all.  They missed all of last season already.

[The Jackson FIX 2,286]

1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I’m surprised by the lack of love for Jones. There was a period in the last quarter, where it looked as though Freo were going to challenge us and we threw Jones into the middle. He won the ball and rather than stuffing around with it , like Oliver, he drove it deep inside 50 to advantage. A couple minutes later he was instrumental in another goal ...  he still has a bit to offer

 

 

I don’t disagree with you. ‘Jones out’ prediction was largely based on them looking to up pressure on the ball carrier this week (Jones didn’t lay a tackle last week). Plus I am guessing they’ll use Jones more sparingly this yr than they have in prior years.

[BDA 19,978]

Although he held his own at the weekend, so not suggesting he gets dropped,  I reckon the injury sub could not have been introduced at a better time for Jones. He'll easily get to 300 games now.

[dazzledavey36 48,583]

2 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

We should only pick veterans as the sub , cant afford to have kids wasting away and not playing at all.  They missed all of last season already.

Yes and no Jacko.

The reason why Jones is playing is because no one at VFL is exactly banging down the door to replace him. You don't want players playing just for the sake that they're younger and need games. I'd rather our players earning their spot instead of being gifted just for the sake of it.

I would like to think the likes of Laurie, Bedford, Bowey can really play some significant football down at Casey to the point where they overtake Jones in the senior side.

[Little Goffy 12,486]

Interesting that St Kilda have not only more tall forwards but also more genuinely speedy small forwards/half-forwards.  It is going to be a fair bit harder to cover them all and I'm kind of glad May, Lever and Tomlinson got last week to build a bit of confidence.

Specific players that concern me are Membrey and Billings.  Particularly Billings.

I don't think Hunt has the right kind of 'zip' to be in defence against the likes of Hill, Butler and Lonie. (I'm making a precision technical distinction here between 'zip' and 'dash'.)  Could he by tried out as some kind of wing tagger on Billings?  I'm not going to suggest using up Langdon on such a negative role and I don't think we've got anyone else who could do it.  Hunt would not be able to match Billings but could at least limit him to something less than 20 uncontested possessions, and just once in a while Billings won't cover Hunt defensively and we'll all get to see Jayden doing his favourite long gallop and massive kick.

Viney in for Harmes is the clear change, but we must, simply must, bring in some kind of cover for the fast, small options St Kilda will be able to use to avoid the long kicks to Lever and May.  I don't know who that can be or whether we should consider moving a current half-forward/mid to a tagger role (Nibbler on Gresham?) just to provide some interruptions and slow things down a little.

 

[WERRIDEE 5,198]

53 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

We should only pick veterans as the sub , cant afford to have kids wasting away and not playing at all.  They missed all of last season already.

Vanders would be my choice.

[Neil Crompton 4,672]

Further to your comment Werridee, I notice Vanders has been singled out as one of our best players in the last 2 VFL practice games - so I would imagine he is busting down the door to be selected.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,381]

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Chandler should not play. He has no form to go in with. He should be playing in the VFL. Viney for Harmes is the only change. Picking the sub will be hard maybe Bowey or Baker.

Hasn't Goodwin already said (or am I imagining this) that a player's first game for the club won't be as the injury sub? If he hasn't said it, I hope the club thinks this way. 

[demon3165 1,900]

3 hours ago, HBDee said:

Out: 10 of Oliver's unnecessary handballs.

In: 10 of Oliver's quality kicks.

Out: Harmes trying to break tackles and getting caught.

In: Viney trying to break tackles and getting caught.

 

Agree with Viney add Vanders to that list.

[WERRIDEE 5,198]

26 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Hasn't Goodwin already said (or am I imagining this) that a player's first game for the club won't be as the injury sub? If he hasn't said it, I hope the club thinks this way. 

Yeah I didn't think it out too clearly. I wouldn't have Bowey as sub either.

I think the emergencies will be Chandler, Bowey, Vanders and Baker. Vanders is my choice as the sub.