CHANGES: Rd 02 vs St. Kilda

[deebug 1,754]

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Harmes will be out with injury.

(For a fair while too probably)

 

Did he get hurt during the game?

[Lord Nev 13,511]

2 minutes ago, deebug said:

Did he get hurt during the game?

Yep. Twice. Pretty tough nut.

[deebug 1,754]

2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Yep. Twice. Pretty tough nut.

Not good, hope he is going to be alright?

Thank you

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Yep. Twice. Pretty tough nut.

What on earth was the injury? 

And why would he have played the entire game out with it when we had a sub? 

Doesn't add up. 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

15 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

What on earth was the injury? 

And why would he have played the entire game out with it when we had a sub? 

Doesn't add up. 

Mentioned previously, but apparently a wrist injury (which is the main one) but also a nose one.

You'd have to ask Goody about the sub stuff etc.

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

Riley Beveridge on the AFL website going with the following changes:

In: Viney, Melksham 

Out: Sparrow, Chandler

No mention of Harmes so far.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/568442/in-the-mix-r2-who-s-pushing-for-selection-who-s-under-the-pump-/amp

Edited March 23, 2021 by dazzledavey36

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

17 hours ago, stinga said:

We can't beat St. Kilda kicking 10 goals. 

Surprisingly, our forward half play has been pretty efficient across the practice matches and round 1.

If we can get our hands on the ball at stoppages, we should be able to kick the extra goals we need.

It makes sense that Daw isn't ready. You don't just throw him in because he kicked a few in VFL practice matches. It has to be a little more nuanced than that.

[whatwhat say what 18,897]

that's a bummer re harmes - might explain why he seemed to be stationed more forward than through the midfield in the latter stages of the game - it makes the likely change easier to potentially forecast, particularly if melksham and hibberd still need more match time in their legs...

IN: viney
OUT: harmes

[Turner 1,482]

4 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Second hand info passed on, but good source. Copped a wrist injury during the Freo game and has had to have surgery, likely out for 6 weeks or so. Also copped a nose injury as well so did well to just play out the game.

Definitely changes my perspective on his performance somewhat.

if this news is on the money it changes things slightly imo

Chandler in to the 22 alongside Viney

OUT: Harmes (wrist/nose), Sparrow

we already had a glut of inside mids so we can afford to go 2 out and bring some spark into our side. Melky/Bedford into the vest

Hunt is on the edge and 15 disposals minimum or its Hibberd from round 3 onwards and i don't trust him to earn his spot back through performance anytime soon.

i find it amusing how many people were so excited to see Hunt sign a 2yr deal at end of last season and all of a sudden want him dropped, has there been a more unspectacular 9yr servant in our clubs history? wasn't up to it then not sure why he would be in these next two years

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,137]

17 minutes ago, Turner said:

i find it amusing how many people were so excited to see Hunt sign a 2yr deal at end of last season and all of a sudden want him dropped, has there been a more unspectacular 9yr servant in our clubs history? wasn't up to it then not sure why he would be in these next two years

People were excited because we re-signed a capable goal kicker. Hunt kicked 21 goals in 2019 and ended the 2020 season with a 4 goal performance.

Any idea why one of our more naturally talented goal kickers and reliable set shot for goal isn't a forward this year?

[Pipefitter 2,014]

4 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

 

 

Second hand info passed on, but good source. Copped a wrist injury during the Freo game and has had to have surgery, likely out for 6 weeks or so. Also copped a nose injury as well so did well to just play out the game.

Definitely changes my perspective on his performance somewhat.

Shame on me. I saw a post on Facebook about harmes being plastered in Prahan Saturday night. Assumed it was alcohol not plaster on his wrist. 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,161]

If Harmes is out then it’s unfortunate but can be simpler.

Out Harmes, Jones

In Viney, Chandler

I really worry about Jones ability to handle the speed at Marvel and to pressure at all their running defenders. 

[ManDee 7,076]

If Harmes was playing injured what is the point of the injury sub?

[Pates 9,536]

51 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

If Harmes is out then it’s unfortunate but can be simpler.

Out Harmes, Jones

In Viney, Chandler

I really worry about Jones ability to handle the speed at Marvel and to pressure at all their running defenders. 

I’d have Sparrow out before Jones, Nathan didn’t have a great game but he was serviceable. If Harmes really is out then I’d agree with those ins. 

[DemonLad5 1,637]

Saw Harmes on Chapel Street on Saturday night and i'm pretty sure it would have been noticeable if he'd injured his wrist and his nose....

[chook fowler 18,213]

42 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Saw Harmes on Chapel Street on Saturday night and i'm pretty sure it would have been noticeable if he'd injured his wrist and his nose....

What’s a nice boy like him doing in a place like that. 

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6 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What I don't like is that you've suggested playing M Brown, Daw and Petty but have not identified who they should replace.

No pace in that trio no one would catch and tackle a Saint runner and they have about 12.

Need to look at Chandler and Viney at least.

[DubDee 20,549]

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

People were excited because we re-signed a capable goal kicker. Hunt kicked 21 goals in 2019 and ended the 2020 season with a 4 goal performance.

Any idea why one of our more naturally talented goal kickers and reliable set shot for goal isn't a forward this year?

Issues for Hunt are the same up front. Loses concentration, lacks awareness and goes missing. But at least fwd this impacts the team less and he can kick a couple of goals every few games. So I’d have him fwd over defence. But if I was choosing the teams he’d be out of the 22. Being quick isn’t enough to be playing back

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28 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Issues for Hunt are the same up front. Loses concentration, lacks awareness and goes missing. But at least fwd this impacts the team less and he can kick a couple of goals every few games. So I’d have him fwd over defence. But if I was choosing the teams he’d be out of the 22. Being quick isn’t enough to be playing back

Put him forward and we miss that manic chasing and harassment that we saw Spargo, Kozzie and ANB. Even Fritta upped his game here.

Hunt is quick but I'm not sure he is capable of hunting opposition forwards for 120 minutes.

Edited March 23, 2021 by dee-tox

[DeeSpencer 23,112]

Hunt's more likely to impact with counter attack runs from the backline at Marvel than the G I think. And against Freo than the Saints.

His main issue on the weekend was ground balls, which is a shame because he should be better by now, but if he can find a bit of touch and composure over the ball he'll sort that out. 

The Saints pressure worries me about him but it worries me about our whole side! And Freo's small forwards were decent with pressure too.

Edited March 23, 2021 by DeeSpencer

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,137]

11 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

Saw Harmes on Chapel Street on Saturday night and i'm pretty sure it would have been noticeable if he'd injured his wrist and his nose....

He also played in the guts in the last couple of centre bounces and looked very unhindered.

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,089]

Harmes injury just confirmed on SEN - 6 weeks wrist

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15 hours ago, Turner said:

 

i find it amusing how many people were so excited to see Hunt sign a 2yr deal at end of last season and all of a sudden want him dropped, has there been a more unspectacular 9yr servant in our clubs history? wasn't up to it then not sure why he would be in these next two years

The bloke that wore the same jumper before him for 7 years for 28 games!

Edited March 23, 2021 by Hell Bent
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[dazzledavey36 48,707]

@Lord Nev on the mark.

 

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

Latest Injury List:
Some serious outs for the Saints.  They get Max King back but he is lacking match practice and would be having nightmares playing against May again.  If any of our Hibberd, Viney or Melksham return they will at least have some match practice.  Injuries will be no excuse for us should we lose this weekend as they are worse off than us. Petracca and May won us the game last time we played them.  We need an all team effort this week. We must bank these early wins against wounded opponents.
Edit:  Just saw the news re Harmes' wrist.  Fortunately, I think we have plenty of coverage for him and his role.  If Viney is ready it is an easy swap this or next week.

Edited March 23, 2021 by Lucifer's Hero